- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Druulgothan
- Nominated by: Eyrezer 04:47, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: This species appears only in the blurb of a book published only in the UK...
(4 ACs/3 Users/7 Total)
Support
- ~ SavageBob 23:14, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Menkooroo 08:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
—Tommy 9281 Saturday, April 9, 2011, 17:04 UTC- QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 09:29, April 20, 2011 (UTC) - 1358 (Talk) 19:59, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:07, April 21, 2011 (UTC)- Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 12:34, April 26, 2011 (UTC)
Object
The clone
Please note that this isn't the CAN—it's the GAN, and intro sourcing (and intro-only articles) aren't acceptable here, per the Manual of Style and Layout Guide. Please fix the article. CC7567 (talk) 04:59, March 12, 2011 (UTC)- CC, I have added an intro, although I personally think this has lowered the quality of the article, not raised it. I would also be interested to see where you believe the LG and MOS say what you claim above. --Eyrezer 08:06, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- In fact, Rule 7 allows for situations where an intro may not be appropriate: "...have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content." --Eyrezer 08:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- WP:LG#Article_body clearly implies the need of an introduction. This is nothing more than a loophole in current GAN rules. 1358 (Talk) 13:20, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
- Yet that point clearly says "headings and subheadings are usually not required for very small articles." This was a seven sentence body in total -- a "very small article" if you discount the BTS. These exceptions are scattered all over the place, but no one seems prepared to acknowledge them. --Eyrezer 15:12, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
- WP:LG#Article_body clearly implies the need of an introduction. This is nothing more than a loophole in current GAN rules. 1358 (Talk) 13:20, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
- In fact, Rule 7 allows for situations where an intro may not be appropriate: "...have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content." --Eyrezer 08:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- CC, I have added an intro, although I personally think this has lowered the quality of the article, not raised it. I would also be interested to see where you believe the LG and MOS say what you claim above. --Eyrezer 08:06, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
Prepare to be savaged…
Was it 0 ABY or BBY?- Opps. --Eyrezer 22:08, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it's Fett, but the word "infamous" needs a source. Is he called such in the novel in question?- He is called "the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy", which I think is a reasonable synonym for infamous.
I think the last line of "History" could be ditched. It's really not pertinent to the Druulgothans that the kid trained someone later in life. ~ SavageBob 21:51, March 21, 2011 (UTC)- It was the kid himself that was trained. Are you going to cut a slither of context from an already tiny article?
Is there any scenario in the book where the events don't go down as described here? If so, we'll need to use the RPG or Game beginning and end templates. ~ SavageBob 21:52, March 21, 2011 (UTC)- Well this is an interesting one, as I'm inclined to see the Front matter as asserting that this particular scene did happen. Let me have a bit of a think about it. --Eyrezer 22:08, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, right. I think I agree with that. There was a fight of some kind, then. ~ SavageBob 23:14, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Well this is an interesting one, as I'm inclined to see the Front matter as asserting that this particular scene did happen. Let me have a bit of a think about it. --Eyrezer 22:08, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
Jujiggum
"Years later, he trained as a Jedi Knight himself." How is this information important to the species?- That's all I've got. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:48, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
- I feel it is harmless context that places the article in a wider setting. Presumably you disagree. --Eyrezer 22:01, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, that would be why I made the objection. :P This is an article about a species, not an article about Storm. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:07, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
- I feel it is harmless context that places the article in a wider setting. Presumably you disagree. --Eyrezer 22:01, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
GTQ
I do not think the second sentence really belongs in the intro. That's it —Unsigned comment by GTQ (talk • contribs)Apologies for intervening, but that sentence is perfectly fine and relevant as is. Also, please remember to sign your posts. Thank you. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 01:13, April 12, 2011 (UTC)Ok I am an idiot sorry about not signing my posts, the sentence was just an opinion thing I will try to avoid doing that in the future.GTQ 21:42, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Cav
A little nitpicky maybe, but Fett, who bore a grudge against Jedi, is currently sourced to The Lost Jedi Adventure Game Book, Front matter. Should this be sourced to the actual book itself, or, rather, another source that deals with Fett's dislike of the Jedi Order since they killed his father?- Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 11:47, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Changed it to a reference in the book itself. --Eyrezer 02:35, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Comments
- Have you informed Wallace and Fry about the species mentioned in this source? They should probably add a "Druulgotha systyem" to the Atlas Companion (along with Ma'alkeri)... ~ SavageBob 21:51, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm on it. :) --Eyrezer 22:08, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 12:35, April 26, 2011 (UTC)