- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
DH-23 blaster pistol
- Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:14, January 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Looking at some of my figures I thought I recognised this weapon.
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Why did you change the infobox references from the The Clone Wars Campaign Guide which was published in 2009 to the older Arms & Equipment Guide which was published in 2002? As a result, you also removed the capacity (100 shots) and the stun setting capability that was listed in The Clone Wars Campaign Guide.--Richterbelmont10
(come in R2!) 19:15, January 5, 2015 (UTC)- I removed the saga edition range because it was just the generic base blaster range assumed for all blaster pistols, whereas the Arms and Equipment Guide gives a range value specific to this weapon. As they differ I used the specific value instead of the generic one. The stun setting is mentioned in the body, but I didn't think it should be mentioned in the capacity section as that concerns ammo specifically. I've re-added the 100 capacity with a reference saying its the generic assumed for all blaster pistols in Saga Edition. Ayrehead02 (talk) 01:01, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
- Actually I just noticed that the Clone Wars Campaign Guide was missing the ammo listing for this weapon; that information was released in the book's official errata. I went ahead and made the appropriate change to the article, I hope you don't mind.
- I removed the saga edition range because it was just the generic base blaster range assumed for all blaster pistols, whereas the Arms and Equipment Guide gives a range value specific to this weapon. As they differ I used the specific value instead of the generic one. The stun setting is mentioned in the body, but I didn't think it should be mentioned in the capacity section as that concerns ammo specifically. I've re-added the 100 capacity with a reference saying its the generic assumed for all blaster pistols in Saga Edition. Ayrehead02 (talk) 01:01, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I see how the Arms and Equipment Guide might seem to give a more accurate range. I've been using the Saga Edition ranges because then I can list an "Optimum" range along with a "Maximum" range, which is how ranged weapons are usually listed in the The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology. Although this is certainly not a requirement, just personal preference. I use the "Point-blank" range from Saga as the "Optimum" range and the maximum range as "Maximum." But perhaps your way is better. I will ponder on this more.
- As for the stun setting, I'll leave that up to you.--Richterbelmont10 (come in R2!) 05:07, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for fixing it! I'll leave the range and stun information as it is for now and see what others think. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:45, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
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The intro could stand to be fleshed out a bit. Time period, expanded mention of blaster's features and drawbacks, and perhaps a bit more elaboration on BlasTech's reasons for making a newer model could all be in there.- Added. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:08, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
- You could probably mention some of the characters in the history section as using the weapon.
- The different lines that the figure with the DH-23 need to go in the Sources section. Jorrel
Fraajic 07:12, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
- For the last two objections, I didn't include the figures in the body or sources due to the fact I wasn't sure I could definitely say that they have DH-23s. While their guns look almost identical to them, as it's never confirmed I didn't want to make assumptions. I also wasn't sure on the canonical status of weapons with figures, as they don't seem to be included in many other articles, for example Myo doesn't even mention his figure at all. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:08, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
- I think it's safe to say it passes the duck test, and we've been far more lenient on artistic discrepancies in the past (hello Dark Empire), but I understand your reasoning. I'll ask around to see what others think about the depiction. As for figure detail, Myo should probably have the appropriate information added (I'm not sure what line he's in, though), in the interest of completion. This, of course, hinging on how we end up treating the unnamed appearances in figure lines. Jorrel
Fraajic 10:04, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
- I think it's safe to say it passes the duck test, and we've been far more lenient on artistic discrepancies in the past (hello Dark Empire), but I understand your reasoning. I'll ask around to see what others think about the depiction. As for figure detail, Myo should probably have the appropriate information added (I'm not sure what line he's in, though), in the interest of completion. This, of course, hinging on how we end up treating the unnamed appearances in figure lines. Jorrel
- For the last two objections, I didn't include the figures in the body or sources due to the fact I wasn't sure I could definitely say that they have DH-23s. While their guns look almost identical to them, as it's never confirmed I didn't want to make assumptions. I also wasn't sure on the canonical status of weapons with figures, as they don't seem to be included in many other articles, for example Myo doesn't even mention his figure at all. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:08, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
- The new blog post shows a movie prop of the DH-23, so I'll need to update the article accordingly and work out where exactly in the movies it appears. I'll do this asap and try and keep the page in a nominatable state, although it will probably depend on where it appears. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:15, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
- As I still can't find info on it being in the movies, I'm requesting this nomination be taken down. Ayrehead02 (talk) 22:33, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
