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Covell
- Nominated by: ThePedantry (talk) 04:42, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nomination comments:
- Date Archived: 03:47, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Final word count: 376 words (45 introduction, 242 body, 89 behind the scenes)
- Word count at nomination time: 369 words (44 introduction, 241 body, 84 behind the scenes)
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Support votes
—spookywillowwtalk 01:37, 5 October 2025 (UTC)- Lewisr (talk) 01:43, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- CometSmudge (talk) 20:01, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- StarWarsFan327 (talk) 11:42, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Master Fredcerique(talk) (he/him) 02:50, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Objections
spookly
The Biography very consistently refers to Covell with they/them pronouns; but the infobox has he/him listed. If he/him is indeed correct, the character should be referred to by their specified pronouns in all usages in the article prose.- Realized the intel quest did provided his pronouns after I had written it and forgot to go back to update it. Fixed Now. ThePedantry (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Copy-edit; note that we don't leave <!-- in infobox generally unless there's exceptional circumstances (like an infobox image CT or really something that justifies it.—spookywillowwtalk 18:40, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Realized the intel quest did provided his pronouns after I had written it and forgot to go back to update it. Fixed Now. ThePedantry (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
"...Outer Rim moon Toshara in 3 3, where..."- Fixed.
PT sentence seems like its trying to cover a lot at once. Probably better to split that while adding the needed "and" before "and brown eyes" and just leave the second as "He spoke..." etc etc.- Split.
Last sentence of the BTS isn't relevant by general BTS standards; while we do a lot of listing what does occur/does exist, listing what does not exist or hasn't been confirmed (ie a lot of old Legends noms had "the game does not confirm the gender...") we don't do, unless a SW creator calls it out and thus makes it usable BTS material.—spookywillowwtalk 15:26, 1 October 2025 (UTC)- I do think think including the fact Vess does not mention Covell's name is notable since the entire quest starts by Covell telling Vess to share the information and give him credit. ThePedantry (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay; that should be tweaked to reflect about the credit bit within the BTS sentence itself then to establish its relevancy. Again as said on Nih's nom; several of these Outlaws noms are starting to push the envelope of the VG BTS fluff limits that are widely standard by this point, when the vast majority of noms just include XYZ appeared in [media]. Whether or not something is true doesn't necessarily mean its automatically relevant unless its worded in a way that justifies it being there.—spookywillowwtalk 18:40, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I understand and agree with not including every true thing in the BTS. I have been following the pattern of [Appearance], [Portrayal info], (if I know who the VA is), [Identification/Spelling] (if different and notable), [Quests/Interaction] (and if they are optional to the main story or not), and [template:Gamemechanics info] (any details relating to player choice). I believe this follows policy and what I have seen on other noms. I believe this detail is part of the Gamemechanics/player choose info. ThePedantry (talk) 19:01, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- If one re-reads my amended objection, "that should be tweaked to reflect"; unlike Nih, I agree this is slightly more relevant and thus asked for the sentence to be tweaked instead of removed. It is still very much worded in a way that really does not get its relevance across well to the reader. "Either way" is also pretty informal for a status article, as opposed to leading in with "Despite Covell's request for credit," or something else that is more formal than "Either way" —spookywillowwtalk 21:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Updated, but I struggled a bit with the wording so let me know if this makes sense. ThePedantry (talk) 00:56, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- If one re-reads my amended objection, "that should be tweaked to reflect"; unlike Nih, I agree this is slightly more relevant and thus asked for the sentence to be tweaked instead of removed. It is still very much worded in a way that really does not get its relevance across well to the reader. "Either way" is also pretty informal for a status article, as opposed to leading in with "Despite Covell's request for credit," or something else that is more formal than "Either way" —spookywillowwtalk 21:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I understand and agree with not including every true thing in the BTS. I have been following the pattern of [Appearance], [Portrayal info], (if I know who the VA is), [Identification/Spelling] (if different and notable), [Quests/Interaction] (and if they are optional to the main story or not), and [template:Gamemechanics info] (any details relating to player choice). I believe this follows policy and what I have seen on other noms. I believe this detail is part of the Gamemechanics/player choose info. ThePedantry (talk) 19:01, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay; that should be tweaked to reflect about the credit bit within the BTS sentence itself then to establish its relevancy. Again as said on Nih's nom; several of these Outlaws noms are starting to push the envelope of the VG BTS fluff limits that are widely standard by this point, when the vast majority of noms just include XYZ appeared in [media]. Whether or not something is true doesn't necessarily mean its automatically relevant unless its worded in a way that justifies it being there.—spookywillowwtalk 18:40, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I do think think including the fact Vess does not mention Covell's name is notable since the entire quest starts by Covell telling Vess to share the information and give him credit. ThePedantry (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
StarWarsFan
In the second paragraph of the biography, "Pyke syndicate" is lowercased regarding the Pyke Syndicate. Is this a mistake or is this how Outlaws wrote them?StarWarsFan327 (talk) 20:15, 12 October 2025 (UTC)- Twas a mistake, should be fixed now. ThePedantry (talk) 22:27, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 02:50, 14 October 2025 (UTC)