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CT-8801

  • Nominated by: Erebus Chronus (Talk) 04:31, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Poor dude got stunned twice
  • Date Archived: 05:57, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Final word count: 712 words (168 introduction, 496 body, 48 behind the scenes)
  • WookieeProject (optional): WP:AMB, WP:TCW

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Support

  1. ACvote Lewisr (talk) 22:08, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
  2. ACvote —spookywillowwtalk 08:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 06:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
  4. ACvote LucaRoR (Talk) 05:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Object

Anil
  • (Reviewing note) According to reputable style guides such as The Chicago Manual of Style and Modern Language Association, compounds with adjectives ending in "-ly" shouldn't be hyphenated.
  • (Reviewing note) Per the sourcing policy, references that constitute full sentences should receive a period.
  • (Reviewing note) Articles should always use the serial comma per the Manual of Style: "Tech, Echo, Wrecker, and Omega" (note the bolded comma after "Wrecker")
    • Thank you for these.
  • Could you provide some context for Castle Serenno?
    • Sure. Added.
  • I don't think the Databank actually contains all the information that it is used as a source at the moment. For example, the entry doesn't mention "humans" or "DNA" at all as far as I can see.
    • It can't. I changed it as accordingly as I could. Let me know if there's a problem.
  • I'm not sure if we should assume CT-8801 himself participated in Order 66 only because he continued to serve the Empire. As a precedent, TX-828 doesn't make that assumption.
    • The wording in the Databank entry is a little confusing. It says "...a hidden trigger implanted in every clone trooper would soon change the galaxy forever..." Wasn't sure if it was referring to Order 66 or the chips, so I changed it to Collapse of the Republic which does confirm that every clone trooper "betrayed the Jedi Order." With that, TX-828 should probably be updated.
  • Since The Bad Batch treats Imperial clones and stormtroopers as separate groups, calling early Imperial clones "stormtroopers" would probably require some sourcing.
    • How does that work? It doesn't say they were the "early" stormtroopers, so I left that part out.
      • Yeah, I think that works. Though I removed the extra note in my copy-edit since the Databank entry itself seems sufficient to me, if that's also okay for you. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
  • The date note is currently more extensive that it's needed based on its usage in the article. You can source the end year of the Clone Wars directly to a reference book like Star Wars: Timelines. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, it must be. I forgot to include 19 BBY again for the episode's events, but I added it now. Man, I'm rusty. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 20:59, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
Lew
  • In equipment, would it be better to mention the chip first? Since you're talking about it being from birth, and the rest is in chronological order in terms of service
    • Changed
      • Now I think about it, I think you should just cut the Republic Army and Imperial Army service mentions and instead just refer to his service overall, since we don't know what he was equipped with during his time in the Republic
  • 'While fighting in the Clone Wars against the Confederacy of Independent Systems,[1] in 19 BBY,[4] from his implanted behavioral modification biochip,[2] CT-8801 and the rest of the Republic's clone troopers received orders from Supreme Chancellor Sheev Palpatine to execute the members of the Jedi Order, who were branded state enemies, in accordance with Order 66.' I think it would be better to reword this to mention they received the order first before mentioning the biochip
    • Sure
  • 'Not long after Order 66, which correspondingly brought about the war's end' is this true? The war was still ongoing despite the Jedi's execution, so I think you should just say not long after the Order, the war was brought to an end and then about the Republic's reorganization
    • That's why I said "correspondingly," because it didn't really end the war, but helped to bring that end by executing the Jedi.
      • I think it would be better to remove the correspondingly bit and just say the war ended shortly after
  • 'Shortly after the Republic's transformation,[3] in 19 BBY,[4] CT-8801 and the clones of the former Republic Army continued their service[3] as stormtroopers[7] in the newly formed Imperial Army. Later on, CT-8801 and an over forty-man-strong company of clone troopers led by Clone Captain Wilco were sent[3] to the planet[8] Serenno,[3]' I also think this should be rewritten to cut the first part before 19 BBY and just say the clones continued their service in the new Imperial Army, then saying later in 19 BBY CT-8801 and the forty-man-strong company were sent to Serenno Lewisr (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • "Their mission was to retrieve Dooku's massive war chest of valuable items from his former palace—Castle Serenno—that had been plundered from the worlds controlled and besieged by the Separatists during the war and send it off-world aboard three class four container transports." Currently, the second half of this sentence seems to be describing the palace, not the valuable items. A reword could clear this up some.
    • I think it was pretty obvious what was being referred to, but fine.
      • It was, yes, but it's not technically what the syntax stated. Being understandable and being correct is the difference between a conversation and an encyclopedia. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 06:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
  • What exactly is "their galactic freedom"? Seems like a bit of an odd way to describe it. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 00:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Luca
  • There is inconsistent referencing for "human" between the body and the infobox.
    • It was more referencing that Jango was a human than CT-8801 himself, but changed Lewisr (talk) 07:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
  • More a nitpick than an objection: it would be nice if the first mention of him being a clone were referenced to the episode because currently, you are referencing the whole first sentence to the databank, which does not mention his name or the fact that he is a clone.LucaRoR (Talk) 09:55, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
    • Updated the referencing Lewisr (talk) 07:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Comments

  • Handling any objections Lewisr (talk) 07:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 05:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)