Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/CT-3423

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CT-3423

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. JangFett (Talk) 17:13, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Please note that "whom" is always preceded by a preposition. -- 1358 (Talk) 18:59, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
    • Oh, nevermind. -- 1358 (Talk) 18:51, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 19:41, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:04, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:28, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Object

  1. Fett
    • "While on a speeder patrol after the battle with Jedi Master Stass Allie, CC-8826 and CT-3423 received Order 66, which branded the Jedi as traitors to the Republic." They received Order 66? How could they "receive" it?
      • Clarified.
    • "CC-8826 and CT-3423 then opened fire on Allie's speeder, destroying it and killing the Human Jedi General" What did they use to fire on her? Assuming they used their BARC speeder's blaster cannons, correct? Please fix this in the bio, too, please.
      • Clarified.
    • "CT-3423 and Neyo made a BARC speeder patrol over the marshland battlefield," They made a BARC speeder patrol? Please clarify
      • What is not clear about this sentence.
        • Nevermind, I took care of it during my copy-edit. "made" doesn't work there, Lee.
    • "During the speeder reconnaissance, Neyo received Order 66" Again, how did he "receive" it?
      • Clarified.
        • See the last objection.
    • "[...]and after informing CT-3423, both fell back" "Fell back" doesn't work here.
      • Replaced with a synonym.
    • "CT-3423 was ultimately loyal to the Republic and shot his Jedi General down on Saleucami." How was he "loyal"? Shooting down his Jedi General doesn't dignify that he was loyal.
      • Clarified.
        • Still remains. Also, now "proven" is repetitive in this sentence. You changed "Republic" to "Empire," which is false.
          • Changed back, fixed.
            • I didn't say to change it back, Lee. Please reread what I said above.
              • Fixed.
                • I see no change.
                  • He was loyal enough to execute his Jedi General he had fought with. If that doesn't makes him loyal to the Republic, I don't know what. Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:38, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
                    • You failed to mention that he was loyal to Palpatine's orders and executed the chancellor's demand of killing his Jedi General, because of Order 66.
                      • Added.
                        • Better, but is there anyway you can reword this, though? "CT-3423 was loyal to the Supreme Chancellor and proved that by carrying out the order to shoot down his Jedi General on Saleucami." You mentioned that he was loyal to Palpatine by carrying out his order of what?
    • I'll give it another look after this. JangFett (Talk) 18:34, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
    • "During the speeder reconnaissance, Neyo received Order 66 over their helm comlinks" You say both clones received the order in the intro, now you say only Neyo received the order. Which one is correct? Note that you say "their," which doesn't make sense.
      • Actually, the use of "their" is correct. The comlinks belonged to them, so they received the order in "their" comlinks. Jonjedigrandmaster Jedi symbol (We seed the stars) 22:51, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
        • Jon, I meant that Lee said in the intro that both received the order, and then in the bio, only Neyo did. If both of them received it, then CT-3423 should be added in as well. JangFett (Talk) 22:54, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
    • "During the speeder reconnaissance, Neyo received Order 66 over his helm comlinks—an order for all clone troopers to execute their Jedi officers—from Supreme Chancellor Palpatine and, after informing CT-3423, both troopers utilized their speeder's blaster cannons to fire on Allie, hitting the rear of the Jedi's Aratech 74-Z speeder." Please take a look at this sentence, Lee. Not only is the context out of place here, but it's confusing. You can cut it down. Take a look at the intro's sentence to help you on this. But, please, paraphrase so it doesn't match the intro's. I've seen you do this quite a lot, Lee.
      • Removed the context on Palpy.
        • I didn't say to remove it. Please reread what I said above.
          • Splitted. Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:14, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
            • I still see no change, Lee. Please read this sentence again, and read what I've said above: "During the speeder reconnaissance, Neyo received Order 66 over his helm comlinks—an order for all clone troopers to execute their Jedi officers— from Supreme Chancellor Palpatine."
              • Fixed.
                • You didn't fix anything, Lee.
                  • now.
    • "This ignited the reactor of the bike and sent it into a fatal crash," "Ignited" doesn't work here.
      • Replaced withactivated. Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:33, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
        • Actually, the bike would be "activated" if its running. I would say something along the lines of the blaster fire caused the bike to explode. You don't have to describe every detail that you saw in ROTS. Just straight-to-the-point.
          • eh, the info about the reactor is from TCSWE and it should be there. Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:14, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
            • You failed to mention or source this in the article, then, Lee. If it's in the CSWE, then please source it. You currently have it sourced to Order 66 and ROTS, which assuming are correct, but given that you said it's mentioned in the CSWE, it should be sourced to it as well. The "reactor" bit only, though. JangFett (Talk) 16:26, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
              • Meh, it was Order 66. Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:38, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
                • Which one is correct, Lee? First off, you told me that the information was in CSWE, and now you say it's not there, but in Order 66. If it is Order 66, then please correct the reference in the article. JangFett (Talk) 16:42, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
                  • It is correct as it is.
                    • Take a look at the change I made, Lee.
  2. The Grand Master
    • "Through his helmet comlink […] and informed CT-3423." Please check this sentence. It does not read correctly.
    • "…utilized their BARC speeder's…" They were on the same speeder? Issue in both the intro and bio.
    • Why is there no date for any event in the bio or intro? At least date their killing of Allie.
      • Added.
    • Please make sure all info in the intro is included in the bio.
      • Eh, not sure waht you mean.
        • I mean that you currently present information in the introduction that is not present in the biography. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 21:34, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
          • Ah. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:56, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
            • This remains. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 19:07, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
              • Honestly, I've got no idea what you mean. All info from the intro is in the bio. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:59, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
                • No, it's not. Please take care to read through your information regarding Order 66 in the intro compared to the information you present on the Order in the bio. Yes, this is relatively minor, possibly even a "sofixit" under normal circumstances. But it's also a basic rule of article writing that you should know to follow by now, considering the number of times you've been through this process. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 15:18, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
    • You say that Allie was on an Aratech 74-Z speeder, but you said earlier that Allie and the clones were on a BARC speeder patrol, and you included Allie as part of the patrol, thus saying that she was on a BARC, too. Which is correct?
      • Fixed.
    • "He was given his number in Order 66: Destroy All Jedi" Did he actually not receive a number until the events of this Insider article, as this implies? Or was it just not revealed until then?
    • "However, in the comic, CT-3423 and Neyo gun Allie down in a rocky environment, while in the film it's in marshland." Could you explain why you present the film's version instead of the comic's version in the article?
      • Fixed.
    • Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:38, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa:
    • This statement from the BTS needs to be sourced. It's not self-sourcing: "Because film continuity overrides that of the comic, this article presents the movie's version." Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
      • The problem is that there is no source for this case escpecially. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:20, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
        • I seriously doubt that. I'm sure there's some kind of SW.com blog entry made by Chee or someone else detailing the levels of canon hierarchy. You'll need to find it to properly source this statement. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:33, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:28, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


  • Isn't there a better image? We on Jedipedia have a better one that shows only 3423. Nahdar Vebb 19:00, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
    • The quality of the image is rather poor. Also there are some problems with the uploading. Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:37, May 16, 2010 (UTC)