Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Battle of Khorm

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Battle of Khorm

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 05:54, September 27, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Nice work. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 08:51, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
  3. I know three non-AC votes are superfluous, but I feel since I had an objection that was dealt with that I took awhile to get back to I should go ahead and vote in favor. Fan26 (Talk) 22:44, November 10, 2018 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:04, November 15, 2018 (UTC)
  5. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 10:30, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 08:04, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Object

CC-8
  • Being blinded and losing a whole eye aren't the same thing, the intro and body should be consistent on that.
  • Not sure why Clone Commander is pipelinked in the history
  • he started using a cybernetic implant instead of his missing eye. Being pedantic here but the word "instead" makes it of sound like a choice rather than a replacement.
  • I think reference 4 needs to acknowledge the loss of Wolfe's eye as the reason we know that the battle took place between Felucia and Abregado. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 05:52, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Ref 1 makes a bit of a leap. Please explain that because Wolffe lost his eye in this battle, it must take place after when he had both eyes.
  • Is there no backup link for the defunct CN video?
    • Unfortunately, no. Those videos from CN are gone forever. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:19, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
      • Hmm, I'm uneasy using something which essentially can't be sourced. Could an alternate source be used? Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 10:53, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
  • If the point of the first BTS image is to show Wolffe's missing eye, could you find one of him in person, not in a hologram?
  • I'm not a big fan of the one sentence paragraphs in the BTS. Could you group some of them please?
  • Is it necessary to say "[Ultimate Star Wars] did not specify whether Khorm was a planet or another type of location."? That isn't really notable, as it should be clear it wasn't identified if the location's type isn't specified in the body.
  • The link for the CN site is currently in Russian (I think) :P Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:04, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
    • For some reason, when you try to access CN.com, it automatically redirects you to a version of the website in your native language. I didn't even notice that it did that. Fixed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:19, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please state Star Wars: Force Collection is canon, just to make it clear. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 10:53, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
  • Does Gilroy have any quotes from the insider article that could be used? Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:41, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • The reference note for the date is extremely long, convoluted, and practically impossible to understand by simply reading it. Please find a way to simplify that explanation so anyone reading the article can easily digest and comprehend what it's trying to say. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:17, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
    • Is it better now? QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:21, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
      • Ok, we're getting there, but there are still some issues. This ref note should specify the sources (or in this case the episodes) that Wolffe's appearances in the Battle of Abregado and the battle of Felucia take place, as this is not self-sourcing. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:48, December 19, 2018 (UTC)
        • Specified. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:31, December 20, 2018 (UTC)
          • And now also reworded to flow better. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:28, January 12, 2019 (UTC)
            • I've rewritten some of it and am now satisfied. Please update the old SW Blog template for the Chronological Episode Order article to the current SW.com URL. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:36, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
  • Whenever possible, we should be sourcing everything we can to official material. For TCW air dates, we can and should be referencing that information to the Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Episode Guide over the unofficial TV.com; even though that book is Legends, its OOU information is still legit. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:41, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
  • I know you're not going to like this, but I don't think the Grievous Intrigue episode guide should be considered an indirect mention for this battle. All it says is that Wolffe "suffered an eye injury." That's not exactly a reference to this specific battle. It would be one thing if it said he suffered the injury "in battle" or "in combat." Same goes for the old Encyclopedia entry, which is even more generic of a mention -- "proudly brandishing his battle scars." I think you need to remove those two items from the Sources list and restructure the BTS. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:37, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
    • Agreed regarding your point on the Grievous Intrigue guide. However, the slide gallery in Wolffe's Encyclopedia entry mentioned him losing his eye "on the battlefield," (the Bts addresses this mention, as well). This qualifies as an indirect mention, in my opinion. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 21:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
      • Are you referring to the apparently-no-longer-visible Video/Images slideshow? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:09, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
        • Yes, since I was the one who promoted the Legends page and have since been monitoring it and keeping it updated, I remember seeing that slide; though it was CC7567 who actually added it to the sources list of that page. You can see the slide that I'm referring to by looking at the fourth slide of the current Databank entry. When the old Encyclopedia was replaced with the Databank, all slideshow galleries were simply carried over at the start and were then gradually expanded from there. The earliest available archived version of the Databank slideshow consisted of only eight slides, the same ones that had been originally taken from the Encyclopedia. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:17, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
  • In the BTS, I'm not sure it's really adding any great significance mentioning the original air date of "Holcron Heist." I think it would be better to state that it was a season-two episode, which you will need to either source to the episode guide or that TCW book.
  • I'm not going to make this an objection, but I just want to note that there comes a point where a Canon article's BTS simply does not need to detail every single difference between a subject's Canon and Legends version. I feel like the final paragraph of this BTS is treading dangerously close to being unnecessary for inclusion for that purpose. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:59, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
    • Noted. I personally feel like the BTS should at least summarize some major differences between the Canon and Legends portrayal of a subject, though I agree that the level of detail there should be kept to a minimum. Since the only difference that we know of in this case is Anakin's participation, I feel like there's some merit for its inclusion. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:53, January 31, 2019 (UTC)
Fan26
  • The BtS section includes the panel of Wolffe's injury but doesn't explain what exactly happened-Ventress escaping, etc. I'd like that to be added. Fan26 (Talk) 21:39, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
    • Added. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 21:25, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
      • Sorry it took so long to get back to this. Fan26 (Talk) 14:03, November 9, 2018 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • The whole sentence containing "the comic version's portrayal of events was accepted as the official backstory" seems unnecessary given that this is true of anything in Legends that wasn't non-canon.Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:49, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 08:04, January 31, 2019 (UTC)