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Ambush in Cloud City

  • Nominated by: Darth Morrt 11:59, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Sorry, my English is still not good enogh. I do my best.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. I fixed spelling mistakes and you now have my support VadersFist666 19:52, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote --Eyrezer 03:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo 17:19, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
  4. ACvote -- 1358 (Talk) 18:08, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 21:21, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Object

Xd1358
  • You don't need to identify Calrissian's rank/title in a quote attribution.
  • Something needs to be bolded in the introduction.
  • Avoid pipelinks like that first one in the body.
  • -- 1358 (Talk) 12:03, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • From a cursory glance, the intro is in need of a sizable expansion.
  • Unsourced item in infobox.
  • At least one very poor punctuation typo that is readily apparent to anyone who reads the article.
  • All dashes should adhere to WP:DASH policy. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:57, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
  • Article should also adhere to battle layout guide. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:59, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • Done. Darth Morrt 20:56, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
      • Respond if you think I didn't fixed your objections, please. Darth Morrt 11:08, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • It seems you're missing some information to the extent that the species of the bounty hunters, scoundrels, assassins, and mercenaries, etc. are all identified by the source. This should be detailed in both the infobox and article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
Could I /be/ wearing any more clothes?
  • Articles should refer to characters by their last name. I refer to calling land Calrissian "Lando," as you do a few times.
  • The intro says Calrissian brought several (I changed it to that from "some") guards, but the infobox says it was only 1.
    • I was referring to the bodyguard and the Wing Guard trooper. I changed guard to trooper. Darth Morrt 06:52, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
  • More coming, perhaps. Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:44, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • "Lobot gave an anonymous gift to the gambler" If you know who gave it to him, it wouldn't be anonymous. I (think I) get what you're saying, but can the anonymous simply be removed? Chack Jadson (Talk) 14:53, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • One of your captions says that after the attempt, security was increased. If so, this should be in the article. Chack Jadson (Talk) 17:46, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
    • From Idiot's Array: "Someone's been trying to kill me, so I can't go anywhere without guards. ". I am not sure, that the security was increased after Bossk's attempt, who tried to rather capture him, or after the Gank's shots, which was to kill Lando, so I added it for both.
    • (Lando)"A halfwit like Barpotomous Drebble isn't cunning enough to pull off three assassination attempts without leaving a clue to his identity... (Lobot) The Gank who tried to shoot you the first two times did so when I wasn't far behind, and the destruction of your office would have killed me, too." IMO, the author of Idiot didn't had this SWM scenario in mind, and meant the the Gank's two shots to be the first two assanition attempts. Should this mentioned in the Bts, or it is just speculation? Darth Morrt 12:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
Whoa
  • Well-done! But I am confused. The battle section doesn't actually tell us how the ambush ends --- it concludes by saying that additional guards are on the way. Do they arrive? What happens to Bossk? How does the battle end? Menkooroo 12:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
    • The end of the ambush should be played out. The scenario gives some background and suggests some strategies, but the actual confrontation depends fully on the players choice. The additional guard arrives only, if Lando manages to send a distress call, because they don't know which level Lando is on. The Idiot's Array says completely nothing about this ambush: Lando has been tried to assassinate by a Gand and by a HRD - the last was the third attempt. I could even imagine Bossk to be temporary succesful, and Lando freed by Lobot en route to Raynor, but Occam's razor says, he was unsuccesful. Darth Morrt 15:43, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
      • Ah, OK. A note that the ambush was unsuccessful and that Lando survived is probably in order, then (within the Ambush section), citing Idiot's Array or something else that depicts him as alive and still the Baron-Administrator. Menkooroo 16:55, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
        • Done. Darth Morrt 17:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
          • Tweaked it a lil bit --- one-sentence paragraphs are a no-no. Menkooroo 17:19, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
Xd1358
  • Prelude quote: Is the "belive" a typo or a mistake in the Sore Loser's Revenge? If it is a mistake in the source, please add [sic] after the word.
  • That's it. Nice work. -- 1358 (Talk) 17:20, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry for this post-vote objection: Could you slightly expand the introduction regarding the event itself? The intro currently sounds like a summary of the prelude. -- 1358 (Talk) 20:16, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
    • Expanded. I cannot put more info from the actual battle, since it is mostly player-dependent. Darth Morrt 08:08, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
      • That's much better. -- 1358 (Talk) 08:15, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
Grunny
  • Prelude: "This time the cards—and Lobot, who rigged the match with the help of Raynor's consort Ymile, who hated living in the city—favored Calrissian, who won administration of the city from Raynor." the three uses of "<person>, who..." in one sentence is quite repetitive, can you reword? Grunny (talk) 15:50, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
Jujiggum
  • In the Prelude, please specify that Calrissian won Cloud City.
  • "When they entered the maintenance level, they were trapped in a dark and steamy room, and in the midst of blaster fire." I think this could be reworded better. Perhaps you could say that they found themselves trapped in a steamy room and immediately came under fire from Bossk's group?
  • There only mention of the blast door that shut behind Calrissian is in the intro. Please add mention of this to the Ambush section; remember that no information should be present only in the intro.
  • Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 18:25, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
    • Done. Darth Morrt 13:51, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
      • I'll give it one more quick look-over asap. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:36, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
        • Thanks. Lando mentioned his starship lot on Nar Shaddaa, so I added an 's'. Darth Morrt 16:23, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • Just one more. From the intro: "After a brief firefight…" Do we know for certain that the firefight was "brief?" In the body it sounds like we don't know how the fight itself played out, and thus have no idea as to its length. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
    • I cut it. We didn't really know that the fight was brief. I supposed 11 people cannot fight for long in such a situation. Darth Morrt 14:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
      • Okay. In the future, remember never to suppose anything: speculation is not allowed. Which leads to one more question. Do you know for sure that Calrissian escaped after the firefight? Could he not have escaped while the fight between his guards and the bounty hunters was still going on? Be very careful how you word things, sometimes speculation creeps into articles unintended. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:33, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
        • I've cut more, and changed escape to survive, since it is possible that Calrissian's team won the firefight (without killing Bossk). Darth Morrt 20:26, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 18:42, September 16, 2010 (UTC)


  • Are you sure, the Bts quote is relevant? Darth Morrt 20:56, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
  • Two quick notes: Never link to a disambiguation page (ie, currency), aaaaand I added another redlink for the Twi'lek bodyguard. Menkooroo 12:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)