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1729

  • Nominated by: —NAYAYEN 18:01, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I simply got an image for this random, imageless article and the next thing I know, I've nommed it here.

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. ACvoteLooks good. This was a fun game, too.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 22:15, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:57, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
  3. graestan(talk) 19:24, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Plagueis327 17:04, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Good stuff. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:29, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
  6. ACvote JangFett (Talk) 01:55, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Lee attacks
  • A preliminary: You need to add the co-pilot and the captain to the infobox and therefore you need a "Commanders and crew" section. Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:31, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • I've added them to the infobox, but I'm not going to add a Commanders and crew section when it would consist of "1729 was piloted by two males." as that's all we know about them, sorry. —NAYAYEN 22:11, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • Please fil the "First sighted" field in the infobox and add the place to both the "first" and "latest" sighted fields.
    • Done, with a mental note to discuss infobox documentation at the Mofference. —NAYAYEN 18:00, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • A supply ship, 1729 was larger than an Amphibious Interstellar Assault Transport/infantry: As long as you don't tell us what this should mean, IMHO it should not be in the article.
    • Sorry, Lee, I don't really get what you're asking for here. I'm saying what you're reading: it was larger than an object of known size that could be easily compared. If it sounds odd to you, see the reference note for it. —NAYAYEN 18:00, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
      • The problem I have is that I have no idea how big that kind of gunship is. If you tell us the lenght etc. of the gunship in the article, it would help a lot. Clone Commander Lee Talk 10:12, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
        • Ah, I get you now. I've made a note of the AIAT/i's wingspan, which is the dimension we can most easily compare without pushing it. Thanks for the review, Lee. —NAYAYEN 11:47, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
  • Otherwise good work. Clone Commander Lee Talk 09:33, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
Return of the Jedi
  • First off, you can remove those links from the quote since they're linked in the article.
    • Done
  • Next, context on Oovo IV.
    • Done
  • {{1st}} tag needed.
    • Done
  • Did they actually call it the 1729 in the game, or was it first identified in the game guide? If it's the latter, then a {{1stID}} needs to be added.
    • Yes, when its hailed, that specific number designation is used.
  • Nice work.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 21:07, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review Cal, let me know if there's anything more. —NAYAYEN 22:11, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
graestan
  • I do not believe it is so much that this ship's sensors are prone to false readings as it is that Zam Wessel had stowed away and their biosensors picked her up, but they couldn't find her and figured it was a false reading, leading them to believe that the later sensor wake ghost was a false reading as well. I do realize that this would affect the premise of much of this article, but I think this should be discussed. graestan(talk) 18:13, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
    • By all means, I evidently didn't pick up on the connection between Zam and 1729 so I need to add the missing details. I'll play though that level again tonight and see what needs adding. Thanks for pointing it out, —NAYAYEN 22:08, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
      • Okay, so I've played through the level again (surprising how much quicker they go when you ignore the secondary bounties :P) and I can only find Zam's line of "I stowed aboard a supply ship" in the cutscene at the end of "The Breakout" (ch3,lv2). While earlier on in the previous level we do see a ship looking identical to 1729 taking off from the supply port (which, given the timing, I would say is 1729), there's nothing to indicate that Zam was on it. Is there some other source that would clarify this? I personally think that saying that the false biosensor reading was caused by her stowing away and remaining hidden is a little too much to read into this. —NAYAYEN 23:16, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
        • Seems pretty obvious to me. At the very least, though, I wouldn't go so far as to give the impression that the ship's sensors were prone to malfunction. Call it a compromise. graestan(talk) 04:19, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
          • You know, I've rethought my position. They wouldn't have made the inference if we weren't meant to take it to a conclusion. It's foreshadowing, or a dry joke, or a combination of both. But it explains Zam's presence as well as her lack of transportation, thus requiring her to get a lift out from Jango. It is much easier to make this connection than it would be to assume the ship had faulty sensors from two glitches, one of which we are very plainly shown and one which is heavily inferred. They mention the biosensor reading that they couldn't sort out, Zam mentions having stowed away. The writers made 1 + 1 = 2. graestan(talk) 07:19, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
            • Looking at it again, it was pretty obvious for that to be the intention. Given the placement of events, I've rewritten a fair bit of surrounding text. Let me know if you have anything else Grae, —NAYAYEN 18:55, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I think it would be worthwhile to actually go get a secondary image of the ship to stick into the body of the article. There is definitely enough room there. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:30, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
    • Done. I've gone with the image I have because the only other options were either too small; at a point in the video where the quality deteriorates; or so far away in distance that the game doesn't render it as anything other than a greyish silhouette. Thanks for reviewing, Toprawa, —NAYAYEN 23:21, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
      • Looks good, sorry for the delay, been very busy.
  • I also think the article could use a brief "Commanders and crew" section to detail those two crewers. Toprawa and Ralltiir 08:16, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
    • I didn't originally add one as it would be so short, but I've done so now. I don't think it is humanly possible to get anything longer than this. —NAYAYEN 22:13, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
      • Looks good. Unless I'm missing a link earlier, might we also at least leave a redlink for the prison landing controller person? Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:17, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
        • No, that makes sense. I'll redlink it for now, create it later at some point. —NAYAYEN 22:23, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 01:55, February 13, 2012 (UTC)