Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Vima Sunrider

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Vima Sunrider

  • Nominated by: IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 04:29, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Back in the saddle.

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. —Unsigned comment by Grand master aylard (talk • contribs)
  2. —Unsigned comment by Lluvia Roja (talk • contribs)
  3. Plagueis327 02:03, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Were it not for those jeep-tops, she'd be Mrs. Revan! Menkooroo 03:09, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote --Eyrezer 21:33, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
  6. —Jedi Kasra (comlink) 06:53, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 01:07, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Sunridin' dirty
  • The article's great so far. The only thing that's stood out is the random usage of "Sunrider." You use "Vima" throughout to avoid confusion with Nomi, but every so often the full name "Nomi Sunrider" or "Vima Sunrider" is used, which is noticeable and a bit awkward. Some full-name drops are probably necessary, for sure, but is it necessary to throw in "Sunrider" every few sentences when using their first names avoids any confusion?
    • Removed some of those occurrences.
  • Similarly, the sudden change from "Vima" to "Sunrider" during the Redemption stuff is a bit weird, especially when the article reverts back to "Vima" once Nomi arrives on Rhen Var, and then returns to "Sunrider" even before Ulic dies. Menkooroo 05:51, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well, the rule is to use the last name as much as possible, so I only used "Vima" when there was the possibility of confusion with Nomi. I don't really think it's a problem, but I can change it if you really want.
      • Nope, your explanation makes sense. :) Menkooroo 03:09, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • At the beginning of "Training," instead of backtracking and saying "Nomi was now a respected Jedi Master," can you proceed chronologically and say something like "Over the next ten years, Nomi became..." Ditto with "she had begun official Jedi training under Nomi"
    • Fixed.
  • Is there anything you could say about Nomi arriving on Rhen Var and first confronting her daughter? It almost seems like something's missing between "traveled to Rhen Var to retrieve her daughter" and "Although Vima vehemently espoused...".
    • Fixed.
  • "Although Hoggon was quickly dealt with," --- can you explain what this means? It makes it sound like he dies.
    • Fixed.
  • The bio indicates that she feels compelled by the Force to seek Ulic out --- seems like info that would fit at the end of the P&T's first paragraph. Thoughts?
    • Added.
  • "apparently due to trademark issues..." There's nothing "apparently" about it! :D Avellone and Rostoni have both confirmed it.
    • Fixed.
  • Any chance of including File:Vimaart.jpg in the BTS? It just seems too... perfect to leave out.
    • Added.
      • I gave it a try above the quote so that it wouldn't push the "Appearances" scroll box down. Take a look and feel free to change it if you want. Menkooroo 03:09, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • Excellent job on my favourite TOTJ character. :D Menkooroo 06:57, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • I realize you've already discussed this with Menkooroo, but I wanted to clarify this with you before I start nitpicking. Would it be possible to use "Sunrider" to refer to her throughout the article completely? I get that there's the potential for confusing Vima with her mother, but if "Sunrider" is used consistently there shouldn't be a problem. ("Sunrider's mother" can be used more to refer to Nomi, in fact.) Last names are more formal—that's why we prefer them across the site, and there are always ways to work around problems with family names. Before/if you start correcting them, though, I wanted to hear your thoughts first to make sure that we can agree on something, before the entire article gets changed. CC7567 (talk) 21:39, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure, especially with the fact that Vima and Nomi are pretty much always together in the comics. I don't want there to be any chance that they could get confused. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:55, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
      • I realize that, but to me the heightened interaction between Sunrider and her mother only gives a further reason to make sure that formality is still given precedence. Because the article is for Vima, the reader should know that "Sunrider" refers to her, not her mother—as long as it's made clear consistently throughout the article, consistently referring to Vima as the only "Sunrider," and her mother as otherwise. I understand the caution about wanting to use first names instead of last names, but formality is still necessary, and I don't think it's worth sacrificing that much. Try it out and see what can be done. CC7567 (talk) 05:27, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
        • Went through the article and did this. How does it look? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:42, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
          • It's looking a lot better. If there are any problems or confusion between the Sunriders, I'll be sure to go through them with you as I review. CC7567 (talk) 06:46, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
  • Could you use {{WebCite}} for those two third-party website references? The Blogspot and the Facebook ones. CC7567 (talk) 06:46, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
    • OK, I gave it a shot. I'm not in the least bit familiar with Cite web so I likely screwed it up. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 22:24, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 01:07, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

  • Now that Mandorla has been cancelled, can you add something to the BTS about how Vima would have played a role in it? Irvine confirmed as much here. Menkooroo 00:22, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
    • Mandorla? Cancelled? Thank God. Done. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:35, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
      • Good stuff (not the cancellation... boo!). Can you take a crack at using cite_web? It's handy for pinpointing dates and authors and such. You can copy the code from Sunrider naming controversy if you want, but make sure to set both access dates to today. Menkooroo 00:52, March 5, 2012 (UTC)