Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Unidentified Republic trooper (Battle of Alderaan)

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Unidentified Republic trooper (Battle of Alderaan)

(3 Inqs/8 Users/17 Total)

Support

  1. Thefourdotelipsis 02:42, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 04:43, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  3. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 12:36, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 16:50, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  5. I hope this guy does get identified.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:56, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Badassssss. Xicer9Atgar(Combadge) 20:00, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Bella'Mia 21:58, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  8. That trailer was awesome. -- 1358 (Talk) 11:57, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Looks good. --DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 12:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
  10. Imperialles 01:07, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
  11. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 02:05, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Object

Soresu
  • A mention of his scars from before the battle, and the ones he sustained from the grenade would be good.
  • While you've got an equipment section, you may as well go ahead and talk a little abou his armor.
  • The fact that he almost stabbed Malgus even while being force-lightninged (not a word, is it?) should be mentioned in the P&T or something.
  • Nice. Would've done this guy myself, simply for his great character portrayal in the trailer. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 12:36, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
    • All have been taken care of. As far as the armor goes however, there really isn't any info on it outside of what's currently in the article. Thanks for the review! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 05:46, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Chack
  • I hate to do this, but isn't it possible that the capital of Alderaan was not Aldera at the time? Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:33, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
    • Well crap. I suppose so. I've removed the mentions. If there's any source that anyone knows of that indicates when Aldera became the capital, please let me know. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 05:46, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Xicer
  • Could you use the {{WebCite}} template for all of your external link refs?
  • There must be other categories this guy belongs to. Look through the ones in here.
  • Very well written! Xicer9Atgar(Combadge) 16:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review, both have been addressed. To be perfectly honest, the Cite web template kind of threw me for a loop—I'd never used it or seen it in use before, but its in there now. You really do learn something new everyday. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 19:32, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
      • It confused me too when I first used it. It's useful for providing backup links in case the site ever goes down (I've added those by the way). Xicer9Atgar(Combadge) 20:00, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Imperialles
  • Where exactly does it say he's a commander or officer?
    • In the video he's serving in a command role, issuing orders to his fellow troopers. He may not have the commander rank, he's a commander in some capacity. That's why I call him "a commander" instead of the commander.
  • Intro: "Together, the two defeated Malgus while Havoc Squad routed the remaining Imperial forces, saving Alderaan from destruction by the Sith" Extremely POV.
    • The Alderaan article in the HoloNet specifically says the Empire intended to destroy Alderaan.
      • No, it doesn't. --Imperialles 11:00, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
        • Sorry, not the Alderaan page—it's on the E3 page. But its there, regardless. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 17:20, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
          • "Saved" is still Republic POV. --Imperialles 17:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
            • Ugh, from dictionary.com: Save: to rescue from danger or possible harm, injury, or loss; to keep safe, intact, or unhurt; safeguard; preserve. By definition, the Republic saved Alderaan from destruction. Its not POV, its fact. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 17:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
              • Thank you, I am quite familiar with the definition of that word. I don't see why you can't use a more neutral-sounding phrasing, such as "driving the Sith Empire off Alderaan" or "re-claiming Alderaan for the Republic"—something along those lines. --Imperialles 12:14, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
                • Done, but only because I don't want this to descend into a stupid argument. That really is more of a personal preference objection rather than a rules-based one. I don't assume that you don't grasp the meaning of "save," I just prefer not to cater to personal requests on articles that are acceptable to nine other people. Regardless, the request's been met. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 00:42, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
                  • But that's the reason why we have multiple people reviewing articles—some might catch what others do not. The fact that something goes unnoticed does not mean objecting to it is invalid. The fact of the matter is that the verb "to save" carries with it a certain connotation, and should generally be avoided when discussing competing political factions. --Imperialles 01:07, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
  • Biography: "The Jedi's timely arrival saved the trooper and allowed him to rejoin the fighting against the remaining Sith forces while she continued onwards to engage Malgus. The trooper was provided with a blaster rifle from one of his fellow soldiers, and together they returned to the battlefield to destroy what remained of the Imperial army." Redundant wording.
    • Give it a look now and see what you think.
      • Still not fixed. You essentially state that they rejoined the fight twice. --Imperialles 11:00, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
        • Okay try it now. It says that Havoc Squad was able to refocus their attack, then that the individual trooper was given a blaster and rejoined them. Two different events. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 17:20, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Bit heavy on the play-by-play, but that can be ironed out once he appears in more sources. --Imperialles 23:41, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review, and I do agree with you. I expect it to be reduced soon, however. Thanks again! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 02:28, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 12:28, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

  • Will this require updating some day? I'm certain of it. It'll probably be either:
    • A. When the game comes out.
    • B. When he gets a name.
    • C. When he gets his own book.

The third option doesn't seem very unlikely, considering it seems like everyone gets a book nowadays, but hey, I like writing and I don't mind updating, so yeah. Plus, maybe the nomination or shiny star will reduce the number of dumb "he was so awesome he fought Malgus" edits. Maybe. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 21:15, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

  • Oh, and 1,094 words or somesuch. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 21:19, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, I just realized that Rule 5 may be an issue here, but I wonder if the Inq would be willing to give the nomination a day or so before objecting on that ground—if the number of edits by other users doesn't reduce within that time, I'll ask for it to be removed, and I'll renominate it at a later period when the article would be more stable. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 21:37, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
    • Rule 5 shouldn't be an issue at all—if the edits are constructive, it doesn't matter, and the material will not be produced on a day-to-day basis, if at all. Rule 5 isn't there to prevent us from FAing anything that we know will have information released at some point in the future. It's basically there to prevent things like webstrip-based articles, that will be updated continually and frequently within a given month, and anything that is a point of contention between editors at a given point. If and when there is a major update to the material, the Inq will merely review the additions, and act accordingly. Thefourdotelipsis 01:11, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
      • Ah, I see. Well, disregard the above statement. I figured Rule 5 included "Hot Topics." Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 02:07, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
        • It can, Trayus, but I don't foresee this particular individual being a hot-button article that all the fanboys and fangirls will start gravitating toward. As long as you keep a watch on it and update anything that might be needed, it will largely remain constant until the game comes out next year. If it is significantly overhauled, the Inq will simply review it to make sure it is up to par. That's all. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 18:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
          • Also, Trayus, there's the option of semi-protecting it if need be. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:33, June 19, 2010 (UTC)