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Taurill
- Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:32, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: They are sentient, no matter what you've heard. If Ranats were sentient, Taurills are, too.
(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
- Dude, there should totally be, like, Taurill Jedi or something! Thefourdotelipsis 06:24, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Boom goes the Darksaber! ~ SavageBob 17:07, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:03, June 8, 2010 (UTC)- -- 1358 (Talk) 10:33, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 12:40, June 13, 2010 (UTC)- Imperialles 09:13, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Xicer9(Combadge) 15:32, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Object
Underlinking in the intro (haven't checked the body yet, though). -- 1358 (Talk) 12:35, May 17, 2010 (UTC)- Done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:02, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Old Republic Era is not an IU term. -- 1358 (Talk) 13:05, May 17, 2010 (UTC)- Changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:17, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Could you include another image in the article? I'm sure there's something even a bit related to them. -- 1358 (Talk) 15:20, May 18, 2010 (UTC)- 2 related images added. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:28, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Stuff:
"it would probably eventually die of hunger or dehydration" Try to avoid speculation like this.- "Organa Solo then decided to visit Durga in Nal Hutta, as she believed that Durga knew of her suspects," Of her suspects? Do you mean of her suspicions (that the Taurill had stolen the information)?
- "Thus, Lemelisk told Sulamar about the situation, and both of them worked to keep under control the delays caused by Taurill's short attention span." But Lemelisk was already gone, right? Should this read something like "In Lemelisk's absence, worked to keep under control the delays caused by Taurill's short attention span?"
- "The Essential Guide to Alien Species unambiguously list the height of an adult Taurill as 120 centimeters. In Darksaber, Leia Organa Solo considers that one of those creatures has the approximate size of her forearm[2] which, analyzing archive photographs, could not have been longer than 30 centimeters." This is too OR. Try to just say it in terms of "EGAS says this, Darksaber says this." Sorry this is kinda vague, but as is, it's based on your on interpretation, not facts.
You've got a lot of small paragraphs. Please merge these.- Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:23, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
- All done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:51, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Prepare to be savaged...
"similar to vermin" -- is this link explicitly made by the sources? Vermin technically refers to an animal that humans consider a nuisance or pest; does this apply to the Taurill?- OS says they move like vermin. Modified. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Based on the images, you can go into much more detail on their appearance. Things that could be mentioned include eyestalks, jagged/pointed limbs and digits, what their face looks like, what parts of the body are hairy or hairless, segmented tail with an arrow-like end, and number of digits per manipulator.- Better? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
I think you should use meters rather than centimeters as the standard unit of measure, unless the sources use centimeters.- Changed. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Based on the Essential Chronology image, it appears they could survive in a vacuum (if not breath) without a pressure suit. This should probably be mentioned in the "Appearance and biology" section.- Mentioned in BtS; it contradicts the source. Or maybe it's a see-through pressure suit, but let's no speculate. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Do individual Taurill have names? It seems that at least some did. Can this be mentioned in "Society and culture"?- Added. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
I'll go through the History section soon. ~ SavageBob 01:08, May 29, 2010 (UTC)One more for now: The StarWars.com source should be expanded so that that article can have a Wookieepedia article (see the Tulvaree article for how to do this). That article should be moved up to the "Sources" section, as it is an actual article, and not just an external link from which no information was taken. ~ SavageBob 01:11, May 29, 2010 (UTC)- Better? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
The history is generally fine, but some of it should probably be rewritten from the Taurill's point of view. For instance, the scene where C-3PO deduces what the Taurill did should instead be rewritten to simply say what the Taurill did. This is the article about them, after all. :)- Better? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Do the sources explicitly say that the Taurill species was wiped out when the Darksaber blew up? If not, you should probably only say that the ones that were on board the weapon died. After all, earlier, it is claimed that Durga had spread members of the species about the galaxy, right? ~ SavageBob 02:11, May 29, 2010 (UTC)- Good point. Modified. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Four Dot
"the superlaser was ninety degrees wrong" - Ninety degrees of what? That's the only thing that gave me pause. Terrific work otherwise, Farl. Thefourdotelipsis 06:57, June 3, 2010 (UTC)- Changed, and ty. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:19, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Eyrezer
I think your Bts is wrong regarding their first depiction. Isn't EC earlier than EGAS?- Good catch. Corrected. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:10, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
How about a mention about of the StarWars.com article? --Eyrezer 12:18, June 12, 2010 (UTC)- Mentioned under BtS and listed as a source. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:10, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Isn't your claim about the pressure suit also from the EC not the EGAS? --Eyrezer 23:06, June 12, 2010 (UTC)- True. Corrected. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:00, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
Xd1358
Just one thing: In the sources section, could you link to the page on SW.com rather than to the Wookieepedia article? -- 1358 (Talk) 10:24, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
L'Imperialles
Intro: "Durga the Hutt came across the Taurill" When did he come across them? Give some context, even if it's vague ("in the time of the Galactic Republic…" or whatever is appropriate).- I can only say "before 12 ABY"; explained in more detail in BtS; added to intro anyway. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 04:17, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Stealing the Death Star plans: "The strange creatures" This is POV.- Rmvd. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 04:17, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
- …and that's it. Great work. --Imperialles 01:29, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks! :)
Xicer
I would prefer it if you could use Durga's full name the first time you mention him in the intro. You'll have to rework in the context too since you'll lose the part referring to him as "Durga the Hutt".- Done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
B&A: You say they were covered in fur in all areas except for their head and limbs, but later you say their tails were also furless. Please remedy the contradiction.- Done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Constructing the Darksaber: "Following Lemelisk's estimates, that kind of workers could build the superweapon in a fraction of the time that common sentients would require." Could you reword this sentence? It sounds a bit awkward as is and it took me a little while to understand what you were saying.- Better? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Could you cite your ref pointing to The Hutt Gambit to a specific chapter, just to keep it consistent with the rest of your novel sourcing?- Done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Good work, a very informative read. Xicer9
(Combadge) 19:35, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Comments
- Often for species with an unknown homeworld, we create articles with titles like "Unidentified [species] homeworld]". You could do that here, though I won't object for lack of such an article. ~ SavageBob 02:11, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Unsure about that: Their planet is unknown IU. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
- The situation is similar for the Ugors and Morseerians, but I'm cool either way. ~ SavageBob 23:46, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
- Unsure about that: Their planet is unknown IU. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 15:32, June 16, 2010 (UTC)