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Shodu Warrick
- Nominated by: JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 04:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A monster Ewoks nom, good luck to anyone brave enough to review this
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Support
Nice. OOM 224 16:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)- Good work! Samonic
08:17, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- A great read. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:53, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 Hello There! 07:26, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Was truly ecstatic when I saw this nomination post. MasterFred(talk) (he/him) 20:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Was about to ask for context on the invisibility soap, but eh, honestly I think the name makes it pretty clear. Fan26 (Talk) 20:23, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 20:40, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Object
OOM
Here goes:- Second Biography image is indenting the subsection header on my display
- Made it smaller.
- Gonna have to ask you to vary your word choice here, e.g. "after," "but"
- Hard on an article of this size but tried to mix it up a bit.
- Would be nice to the quote attributions be a bit more descriptive rather than stating the names of the speakers, especially in the Biography section
- How's that?
- "things would not have been the same" — any way to make this more formal? OOM 224 22:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Done. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 02:29, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Second Biography image is indenting the subsection header on my display
Gosh, the Ewok films have terrible lighting:- Given the less-eventful nature of the "Mother of four Ewoks" section, I can see why its contents were left out of the intro, but perhaps you could sum it up by saying that she raised her children, caring for them and helping to teach them to be brave/considerate.
- Er, what's your source on that?
- "falling comet" — should clarify that Wicket thought it was a comet, given that it's not actually one. Also, I assume it was your intention not to link "vessel" in the next paragraph since it's not really a starship?
- Done, and I don't remember if that was intentional but it is correct.
- "who ran inside" — inside where?
- Added.
- For the next subsection, I think it'd be clearer if you remove "albeit incorrectly" and explain in another sentence that the other Ewoks realised Wicket was actually alive later on.
- Done.
- "Shodu was standing outside" — sorry to do this again, but outside where?
- Done.
- It would help to explicitly establish that the Humans did not understand the Ewoks' language. Otherwise, their interactions might seem strange to some readers.
- Done.
- Inconsistency between "Cindel and Mace"/"Mace and Cindel"
- Fixed.
- I've noticed that Shodu calls Wicket "honey drop" at least twice, so that's something that could be added to P&T.
- Added.
- For the Equipment section, Shodu wore a purple dress when she woke Wicket up from his nightmare.
- Pretty sure those are pajamas but done :P
- As for the final paragraph about brown fur/gray fur, it seems to me that there's no need for it to be mentioned there at all. It's just that her fur changed colour IU as time went by (probably due to aging etc.) OOM 224 09:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I just find that hard to believe IU - in the span of one year, her fur goes from completely brown to completely gray? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 22:35, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Man, these Ewoks have a thing with changing fur colour :P OOM 224 23:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Given the less-eventful nature of the "Mother of four Ewoks" section, I can see why its contents were left out of the intro, but perhaps you could sum it up by saying that she raised her children, caring for them and helping to teach them to be brave/considerate.
CC-8
Not sure if I'm missing something but if all the sources that portray Shodu with brown fur take place before her portrayal with gray fur, it would be reasonable to assume her fur turned gray between Ewoks season 1 and 2?Commander Code-8 Hello There! 06:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)- Same response as to OOM - I just find that hard to believe IU - in the span of (probably less than) one year, her fur goes from completely brown to completely gray? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 13:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, didn't even see OOM's objection. It still doesn't sit right with me, it's not our place as the documenters of SW canon to assume events don't count just because we can't make total sense of them. If there were contradictory stories with Shodu switching from brown to gray to brown or something it'd be a different matter. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:56, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Feels a little odd but alright, removed and switched the stuff about the fur. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just needs acknowledgement in the infobox too Commander Code-8 Hello There! 00:54, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Feels a little odd but alright, removed and switched the stuff about the fur. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, didn't even see OOM's objection. It still doesn't sit right with me, it's not our place as the documenters of SW canon to assume events don't count just because we can't make total sense of them. If there were contradictory stories with Shodu switching from brown to gray to brown or something it'd be a different matter. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:56, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Same response as to OOM - I just find that hard to believe IU - in the span of (probably less than) one year, her fur goes from completely brown to completely gray? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 13:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
"Kintaka explained how the gem had hatched a serpent" This kinda comes out of nowhere cause it hasn't been established that any serpents had been hatched- Added a mention earlier on.
Is the flying canoe worthy of an article?Commander Code-8 Hello There! 07:23, 9 September 2022 (UTC)- Nah, it's a pretty regular escape pod type thing. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:58, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
I think the P&T could go into more detail about how Shodu disciplined her children, for example that she let Wicket leave of his own accord and that she got upset at Wicket and Teebo for the cookiee incidentCommander Code-8 Hello There! 07:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)- Added a couple details, it already talks about Wicket leaving though. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Vergence Warrick
Added a redlink at Gourd/Legends for you to fill in. (The previously linked page was actually a canon page)VergenceScatter (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2022 (UTC)- Thanks, created. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 03:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Another time, when Wicket threatened to leave home forever, Shodu did not take him seriously, assuming correctly that he would return shortly. This is in the Personality and Traits section, but I don't think it shows a trait. It should probably be moved to the history section, or at least changed to emphasize that Shodu knows/understands her son very well, which is more trait-like.- Reworded.
I don't really think a scrollbox is necessary in the sources section. There are only six items that one has to scroll to see.I disagree, I think that's enough.- I don't think it is, but it's not a hill I'll die on :P
I was going to make this change myself, but decided to ask you first: is it really necessary to say "Wokling Ewoks?" It feels repetitive to me, like saying "piglet pigs."- Sure, done.
Shodu thanked her, and Malani noted that it was her first attempt at such a cake; after eating a slice, despite struggling to swallow the bite, Shodu told her that she would have never guessed. You can probably add that Shodu's politeness to personality and traits- Added.
Is the flying canoe notable enough to get a page?VergenceScatter (talk) 19:30, 10 September 2022 (UTC)- CC had the same question - it's really just a regular escape pod. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 03:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Could you add a link to escape pod or something to make that more clear, then? VergenceScatter (talk) 16:05, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Dunno why I hadn't done that to begin with, added. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 16:52, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Could you add a link to escape pod or something to make that more clear, then? VergenceScatter (talk) 16:05, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- CC had the same question - it's really just a regular escape pod. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 03:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 20:42, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- A few things to note:
- I was unable to find any filming info for Battle for Endor that applied to all of the scenes the way I did for Caravan of Courage—that is why there is none right now.
- I'm treating her brown fur as non-canon for now, though I am willing to discuss it if anyone disagrees.
- Yes, every single Ewoks episode, comic, picture book, and adaption has been checked. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 04:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)