Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Pau'an/Legends

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Pau'an

  • Nominated by: Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: And here we go.

(5 Inqs/0 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Inqvote Master Aban Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 16:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Not an objection, per se, but please see my comment below. Nice article. Greyman(Talk) 07:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Satisfied both first and second time around.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 15:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote -- Darth Culator (Talk) 23:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Fiolli:
    • No pasta bowl this time. Just one small noodle: No mention of the backstory in the BtS coming from the Wizards article, but you derive extensive physiological information from there. This should be mentioned at least.
    • Not an objection, but there are far more sources and appearances listed than actual citation sources. I would prefer to see some citation from these other sources as well. Otherwise {{Mo}} might be warranted if nothing is really stated. Master Aban Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 01:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
      • I believe the Visual Guide/Dictionary stuff is basically BTS, what I sourced from the databank. I'm looking into it however, and I'll have any new info if there is any soon. Complete Locations has no new info, Miniatures, well, you probably know about that (it's Miniatures, not a sourcebook), and I'm looking for KOTOR 17 info, which I doubt is going to be useful. Chack Jadson (Talk) 14:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. Toprawa:
    • Does anything actually describe him as being famous? "One of most famous Pau'ans was Darth Desolous"
      • Changed, but thinking about it now, I may remove it, because I don't know if anyone but Vader and the Apprentice knew about him. I have now removed that line all together.
    • Also, based on his Sith title and information from the article, it seems that this individual did indeed become a Sith. If so, you should describe him as such, not just as an aspirant
      • Alright, but I did that because if he's a Sith, it kinda-sorta does break the Rule of Two.
    • The "History" section quote should reflect the movie quote, rather than the novelization quote, for purposes of canonical hierarchy.
      • I did that because the quotes are not the exact same, and I think this one is better. If you are adamant about this, I'll change it.
        • I would insist that you change it, because if there are two discrepancies like this between movie/novel, the movie always takes precedent as being "more canon."
    • You source this sentence to the ROTS movie, when nothing of the such is found there. This needs to be sourced correctly: "though Utapau was subjugated once more with the formation of the Galactic Empire."
      • Fixed.
    • I'd like to see a more traditional BTS, identifying their first appearance in the ROTS novel, which I'm sure is the first appearance.
      • Changed.
    • Also, some kind of mention should be made explaining that they were created as the namesake inhabitants of a world that was originally conceived by George Lucas for the original scripts of Episode IV. Utapau was originally to have been Tatooine. Do some research here.
      • Done, though I hope this was not meant in a rude, "get your facts straight" kind of way. I'm looking for more BTS to add too.
    • There's no info from the KOTOR comic, Evasive Action: Reversal of Fortune, the Wizards article about the Utapauan starfighter, or the ROTS novel?
      • Nothing from the novel, and something was already sourced to Evasive Action. Nothing in the comic is there either.
        • You source something to Evasive Action: Recruitment; there is nothing from Reversal of Fortune?
          • My apologies; I saw Evasive Action and assumed it was Recruitment. Added one tiny ref from Reversal, although the info from these is just Grievous meeting with Tion Medon. Chack Jadson (Talk) 18:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Please make sure the Source list is in correct OOU publication date. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
      • I did, but I left the articles and the Databank sources where they are.
    • Could not another picture be included in here somewhere? Maybe a picture of Utapau?
    • Also, unless I've missed it, please link the Battle of Utapau into the article article someplace Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 23:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

  • I'll get to the redlinks soon. Chack Jadson (Talk) 14:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
  • The lead quote doesn't really apply to the species as a whole, at all. I could understand the reasoning for using it in the "History" section, but in my opinion it doesn't suit the article well as a lead quote. Through your travels and writing of this article, Chack, did you perhaps come across anything that might fit better? Maybe the WotC enhancements? Greyman(Talk) 07:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
    • NEGAS is in-universe, so you use anything from that as a quote. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 12:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Understandable concern. I remember having a really hard time finding any quote, so I just took one from ROTS. I'll go over the sources again and see if I can find a better. Maybe something from NEGAS. Chack Jadson (Talk) 13:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Sweet, sounds like a plan, Chack :) Thanks, Acky, for your recommendation. Greyman(Talk) 13:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
          • The only quotes for Pau'an come from ROTS, and none of them are great. I added one and can switch it with the main quote, but that's about it. Unless you mean I can take a statement directly from NEGAS? Thanks for the reviews too. Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)