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Pacithhip

  • Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 06:09, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: An oldie but goodie. ~ SavageBob 06:09, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 14:04, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
  2. The wolfman mask isn't realistic enough. Put an elephant head on this guy and replace him. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:21, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote --Eyrezer 03:22, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:48, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 01:16, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:53, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Object

  1. IFYLOFD:
    • Any quotes for the sections in the body?
    • "their preferred approach to dealing with the disagreeable (even something as fundamental as dislike of the caste system) was to let it be and endure." Please reword sans parentheses.
    • Aaaaaaaand that's all. Another good species article, SavageBob. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 20:43, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the review! Unfortunately, there are no quotes, since no Pacithhip has had a speaking role in any Star Wars work, and the stories about them have been in sourcebooks or the Databank. The other objection should now be addressed. ~ SavageBob 21:34, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Skippy still wants to see a flyin' Pacithhip
    • Intro: "These came in three distinct patterns". I know you are talking about the tusks, but I think "these" is an ambiguous word.
    • Intro: "Pacithhip gained renown for their exploits. One such individual was a Pacithhip Jedi who..." and ITG: "Pacithhip earned fame for centuries. For example, a Pacithhip Jedi was a member of the Army of Light in 1,000 BBY." Did this person gain in-universe renown? Does the OS specify that all the members of the Army of Light in 1,000 BBY were individually famous?
    • ITG: "Paradoxically" - NPOV? Or does the OS specify that this was paradoxical?
    • ITG: "The Tatooine jerba was one rare breed they raised." Do you mean Pacithhip rarely bred jerbas? Or that the jerba was a rare animal which was bred by Pacithhip?
    • Could you expand somewhere on the Pacithhip from the video game you've mentioned in your answers to IFYLOFD?
    • Good job! Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:01, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
      • I've taken a stab at all of these except for the last two. As for the Tatooine jerba question, yes, the implication is that the breed is a rare one in general, but I think this should be clear. If the implication were that the Pacithhip did not breed jerbas often, rarely or seldom would be the words to use. I've pinged Kreivi about the game, so maybe something will come of that, too, though it sounds like little more can be gleaned from the game than what's already in the article (that Mos Espa had a Pacithhip population in 32 BBY). Thanks for your review! ~ SavageBob 21:14, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Eyrezer:
    • Can you add some more detail to the B&A on the tusk patterns? Looking at the images, I can see two types of tusks: curving down and curving up. I know these may not be described in text, but the images are consistent enough.
    • "Pacithhip earned fame for centuries." This feels a stretch, if based on the JvS panel.
    • Looking at the Alien Encounters image, I'm pretty sure that is a lightsaber at his belt. Can this dude be alluded to?
    • No link or mention of Anakin Skywalker's friend? --Eyrezer 10:57, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure I can really say much about the tusks; they all seem to curve upward from what I can see, but angle of the shot can make them appear to go sideways or down. And I don't see the lightsaber. Which image are you referring to? The other two objection should be addressed. ~ SavageBob 01:48, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • Re the tusks: this, this, and this all appear to me to continue on a plane, whereas this, this, this, and this appear to have an almost 90 degree kink in them. --Eyrezer 02:32, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • The image on page 115 of Alien Encounters looks to have a lightsaber. The image is not one used in your article --Eyrezer 04:09, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
          • OK, thanks for the links and page refs. I've elaborated a bit more on the tusks, though I'm reluctant to assume that the angle of the tusks has anything to do with the genetic tusk pattern. As for the lightsaber guy, I see what you're talking about. I'm not sure how to allude to that dude, since he doesn't necessarily have to be a Jedi to have a lightsaber... Any suggestions? ~ SavageBob 01:42, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
            • I added half a line. Let me know if you feel it is warranted. --Eyrezer 05:44, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
              • Thanks, looks fine to me! ~ SavageBob 06:01, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Toprawa:
    • For reference number 6, can we source the Republic: Emissaries comic to the more specific individual issue instead of storyarc to keep consistent with the article's other issue-referencing?
    • Also, you include the Jedi vs. Sith storyarc in the Appearances list. I am unfamiliar with the material; should this instead by listed by specific issues of the arc, if the species does not appear in every issue of the comic?
    • The same objection goes for reference number 17--please actually link to that individual issue; and going along with that, you include both the Episode II comic storyarc and the comic's first issue in the Appearances list. Unless you have a reason for this, only listing the first issue is necessary.
    • For reference 21, I would request you link to the more specific SW.com Atlas Companion page, using our SW.com citation template. An example of this can be seen in reference 5 here.
    • For reference 33, please link to the specific issue 43 article.
    • For reference 43, please reference to the specific storyarc issue for consistency.
    • Can we name or otherwise link to this Jedi individual? "One such individual was a Pacithhip Jedi who fought in the Army of Light during the New Sith Wars."
    • And here: "For example, a Pacithhip Jedi was a member of the Army of Light in 1,000 BBY"
    • And here? "while another Pacithhip was known to be a lightsaber wielder."
    • And here? "One worked as a podracer mechanic on Tatooine"
    • And here? "another performed in a band at the Boonta Eve Classic of 32 BBY"
    • And here? This one might not be necessary, however: "Another member of the species was part of a circus that performed on Coruscant."
    • And here? "Indeed, a Pacithhip was among other job seekers at the Coruscant Employment Center in 19 BBY."
    • And here? "Another Pactihhip shared a jigger of Merenzane Gold"
    • And finally, this may seem like a piddling objection, but in the Appearances where the article specifies "post-1997 releases only," I interpret that to mean that the species only appears in releases of the film following the 1997 Special Edition release, if you understand my meaning. Would it be fair to simply specify something along the lines of "Special Edition releases only"? Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:42, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
      • OK, here's what I've done:
        • Changed all references to comics to individual issues (with links to those issues);
        • Created articles for the unidentified Pacithhip Jedi and unidentified Pacithhip podracer mechanic;
        • Made image hard links for most of the other random Pacithhip, since there was virtually nothing to go on for most of them to create unique articles;
        • Changed the post-1997 thing to "Special Edition releases only," per your suggestion.
        • Identified the Pacithhip in Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy as Ketwol, as everyone else in that diorama is a character from the A New Hope cantina sequence, so it passes the duck test in my book;
        • Changed the Essential Atlas Online Companion Link to a format that suits us both, thanks to the template change made by Master Jonathan.
      • What I have not done:
        • Change the link to the specific page of the Essential Atlas Online Companion. I think you and I disagree over this, as I prefer to link to our article rather than the page itself (if we have an article for it, it seems a shame not to link.) Hopefully someone will eventually change the template to allow for both a link to the article and the page itself so we can both be happy! Any idea how to request such a change?
        • Linked to the guy in the unemployment line, either for an article or an image. I think there's nothing at all to be said about him, so I'd normally opt for an image hard link, but it's a Hyperspace-exclusive webstrip, so I think it's against policy to nab an image. :(
        • Changed the Attack of the Clones appearances. The first you are seeing refers to the film itself, not to the comic; the second refers to the comic issue in which a Pacithhip appears. Thanks for the review! ~ SavageBob 20:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
          • It seems reference number 43 is still sourced to the storyarc. And, for that matter, I'm guessing it should be altered accordingly per issue in the Appearances list. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 20:53, May 13, 2010 (UTC)