Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Lanvarok

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Lanvarok

  • Nominated by: —Tommy 9281 Friday, December 2, 2011, 03:47 UTC 03:47, December 2, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Probably the last of the weapon barn burner's entries. Blame a tedious college semester.

(3 Inqs/5 Users/8 Total)

Support

  1. Lookin' good!! :D Plagueis327 02:04, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  2. —NAYAYEN 20:53, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Here's to a bringing the barn burner to a glorious end. :) ~SavageBOB sig 22:51, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Good work, Tommy.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 00:01, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 02:44, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote --Eyrezer 08:21, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Awesome.—Jedi Kasra (comlink)
  8. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 01:10, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Nayayen
  • In the infobox, "Advanced" and "Exotic" sound like the names for two variations. If that's the case, I personally think it makes more sense to swap the contents of the model and type fields around.
    • No, those are just categorical descriptors.—Tommy 9281 Monday, February 13, 2012, 20:48 UTC
  • "A quick forward swing [...] fanned out in a wildly random pattern." This sentence confuses me; how can a single disc fan out? If you meant for the multiple shots to fan out, then saying that they were cast out "aimed at the throat and face" seems contradictory.
    • The part that you left out talks about how multiple discs fan out, not a single one.—Tommy 9281 Monday, February 13, 2012, 20:48 UTC
  • "silently dispersed in a short yet random and nearly inescapable spray" Saying "silently" here is, again, contradictory to the fact that we have a sound file of a disc in flight. Was it possible to launch them in such a way that they flew silently? If that is the case, it should be more explicitly stated.
    • The source does say silently, but in the face of the obvious contradiction, I reworded to quietly. Let me know if that's sufficient.—Tommy 9281 Monday, February 13, 2012, 20:48 UTC
  • That's all from me. Absolutely superb read, Tommy. —NAYAYEN 01:29, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review, Nayayen. Please advise if anything further is required.—Tommy 9281 Monday, February 13, 2012, 20:48 UTC
Trayus
  • I'm not sure if you have the book just yet, but Book of Sith includes journal entries from Sorzus Syn that profile ancient Sith weapons, including the lanvarok. Syn states that at the time (shortly after the Exiles' arrival in Sith Space), the arm-mounted gauntlet version of the lanvarok was in use by the armored soldiers of Domoru Krev. Also, Sidious has an annotation that calls the classic lanvarok "Messy and imprecise. The lanvarok is a weapon of indiscriminate terror." Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 07:24, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Addressed. Thanks for the review, I apologize for the delayed response. Please advise if anything further is required.—Tommy 9281 Friday, March 23, 2012, 02:02 UTC
  • Also, is there a specific reason why we don't have an article for the two lanvarok variants? It seems to me that we should have one for the polearm and one for the projectile launcher. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 22:33, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
    • There were two articles, but sources identify them as two versions of the same weapon, therefore compelling me to include them both in one article.—Tommy 9281 Monday, April 16, 2012, 01:40 UTC
      • I can see the idea behind creating one base article for "lanvarok," but considering the vast differences between the two designs, there should definitely be an article for each of the variations. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 20:25, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
  • Actually, for the sake of comprehensive coverage within this article, you should probably specify where Syn first found the arm-mounted version (on the armored soldiers of Domoru Krev). Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 22:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
  • Also, do you have a source that indicates that the top left weapon in this image is indeed a lanvarok? The bts information on the gag and Wallace's notes on the topic seem to indicate that the intent was that the reader not be able to identify the lanvarok at the time of publication. And the weapon pictured there does not look like any other depiction of a forearm-mounted lanvarok. If you can indeed find a source, a BTS note may be in order. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 20:30, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'll remove the reference, since it was my own interpretation of the item, and it doesn't mesh with what Wallace said. As far as splitting the article into two, I don't quite agree; I'd like to discuss this with you further in real-time, whether by IRC or guildchat. Let me know where and when, and I'll be there.—Tommy 9281 Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 23:59 UTC
      • I rarely have an opportunity to get on IRC when you're on Tommy, and I hate to hold up this nomination any moreso than necessary. So if you could either state your reasons here or on my talk page it would be much appreciated. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 19:07, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
      • The main issue is that the source identifies them as the same weapon, two sides of the same coin. That is furthered by them being in use at the same time, not a discontinuation of one in favor of the other. All of the source/reference book sources commingle them.—Tommy 9281 Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 00:56 UTC
      • I understand that, but we have all different varieties of LAAT, which are all far more similar than the two varieties of lanvarok. We also have two articles for the two varieties of Delta-7s, despite the fact that they're nearly identical. Or in the case of a handheld weapon, we have the E-11 blaster rifle, and a multitude of variants. All of the variants are way more similar in design, technical specifications, and purpose than the two varieties of lanvarok; they also weren't replacements for one another. Rather, like the lanvaroks, they were used side-by-side. And it should be noted that, at least in Book of Sith, Syn specifically calls the arm-mounted lanvaroks "lanvarok gauntlets" to differentiate them from the polearms. Given the dissimilarities, it strikes me that separate articles for each variety are warranted in addition to this one. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 04:39, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
      • I addressed this a bit ago, forgot to say so here. Sorry.—Tommy 9281 Monday, June 18, 2012, 02:08 UTC
Quick notes from the Council Chambers:
  • Very minor update needed from the new Lost Tribe eBook. Everything needed is in this edit summary.
  • Any particular reason you list Book of Sith under both Appearances and Sources? I'm pretty sure it should just be a Source.
    Plagueis327 removed the duplicate listing, so I'm calling this one resolved. —MJ— Comlink Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 18:15 UTC
  • —MJ— Training Room Monday, March 5, 2012, 18:38 UTC
    • Addressed. Thanks for the review, MJ. Please advise if anything further is required.—Tommy 9281 Friday, March 23, 2012, 02:20 UTC
      • It actually wasn't a full review, just a quickie that I spotted while reading Secrets on the day of release. —MJ— Training Room Friday, March 23, 2012, 02:24 UTC
  • Mauser has slapped an update tag on the BTS. I didn't look at the source to see what's there, but it needs to be sorted out. —MJ— Comlink Saturday, March 31, 2012, 22:06 UTC
    • Addressed.
  • Also, Mauser has added The Essential Guide to Warfare to the Sources list, and so that needs to be checked for new info as well. —MJ— Comlink Saturday, April 7, 2012, 23:01 UTC
Savaged…
  • In some places, you spell out "credits," while in others you use the Cr template. Either should be fine, but it should probably be consistent.
    • Addressed.
  • "which included a primary triggering handle that curved downward and fit into the wielder's grip" --> Here, the "which" is ambiguous; it sounds like it's referring to the user's hand. Can you reword?
    • Addressed.
  • Can we get context for why the arrival of Dark Jedi during something called the Hundred Year Darkness is a significant time in "History"?
    • Addressed.
  • "their prevalence was anything but." I think there's a word missing from the end of this sentence.
    • Addressed.
  • Is Dequc's species important? None of the other named individuals in the same paragraph are given a species identification, so I'd either remove his or add them for the rest for consistency.
    • Addressed.
  • Real-world dates would be good for BTS, at least for their first appearance and the Mike Stackpole novel you give a month to, if not for all noted appearances or sources.
    • Addressed.
  • The BTS provides authors and artists for all the comics and novels, but not for the RPGs. Can you add those in? A very nice read, Tommy. ~SavageBOB sig 23:33, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
    • Working on this.—Tommy 9281 Friday, March 23, 2012, 02:20 UTC
      • Any luck? ~SavageBOB sig 20:33, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
      • I included the authors/publishers, but not the artists, as I feel it will make the text rather unwieldy. Please let me know if more is required.—Tommy 9281 Friday, May 4, 2012, 19:39 UTC
Eyrezer
  • Can you please make it clearer in the introduction the development of the forearm mounted version? Currently, the forearm version is mentioned here, but it is presumed that the reader already knows of its creation: "The original lanvarok was inspired by the natural left-handed disposition of all members of the Sith species, a distinction retained in the forearm-mounted, combat-exclusive projectile dispenser." That's all from me. --Eyrezer 17:37, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
    • Addressed. Thanks for the review, Eyre. Please advise if anything further is required.—Tommy 9281 Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 08:25 UTC
Eras
  • Quick question before this gets archived: The Eras field includes the Rise of the Empire era, but the infobox does not. Which is correct? Menkooroo 01:39, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
    • Rise of the Empire is correct, based on Darth Maul's possession of a lanvarok. I have added and sourced this in the infobox. --Eyrezer (talk) 23:50, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Hi Tommy, I just added Coruscant and the Core Worlds to the article's source list. The lanvarok is mentioned on page 32, in the RPG stats of Ra-Zyrth, should you wish to check for yourself. --Jinzler 21:37, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 01:50, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote Unaddressed objections nearly a month old. Menkooroo 03:14, March 14, 2012 (UTC
    • Aaaaaaaand another round of three-week old objections. Menkooroo 23:54, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
      • Update: That round has been addressed. However, an objection of MJ's is now one month old, and an objection of Bob's is two months old. Menkooroo 21:52, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • You need to calm down, Menkooroo. They're being worked on, albeit slowly, but obviously.—Tommy 9281 Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 21:54 UTC
          • The rules apply to everyone, Tommy, including you. Instead of being beligerent toward those who choose to enforce them, please just address the objections. Menkooroo 23:52, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
    Inqvote FWIW, he has been informed of this on the 10th. 1358 (Talk) 18:22, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
    Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 08:59, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:22, March 22, 2012 (UTC)