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HK-47

  • Nominated by:JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 19:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Statement: This time, optimal quality is guaranteed.

(4 Inqs/6 Users/10 Total)

Support

  1. Optimal accuracy ratio achieved. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 07:14, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  2. Looks good to me.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:16, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
  3. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:13, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 04:18, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Thefourdotelipsis 23:12, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Lord Hydronium 05:38, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote --Eyrezer 11:44, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Inqvote Jonjedigrandmaster Jedi symbol (We seed the stars) 01:54, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
  9. -- 1358 (Talk) 15:15, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
  10. Inqvote -- Darth Culator (Talk) 22:47, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Object

  1. Just because I helped in the beginning, don't think this'll be easy :P
    • "After the significant loss of life at the Battle of Malachor V, Revan constructed HK-47 as an alternative as he no longer felt destruction of such a scale necessary for his goals." This is confusing and it was already stated in the sentence before that Revan created HK.
    • "The droid went on to help Revan find the Star Forge once more." Revan found the Star Forge before? What is the Star Forge?
    • Context on T3, Jedi Exile, GO-TO in the intro.
    • "were found by GO-TO and used for his purposes." This is too vague.
    • "The Exile finally repaired HK-47, who went on to defeat G0-T0 with help from HK-50 droids he persuaded to join the Exile." Why would he need to defeat GO-TO? What was the Exile trying to do?
      • Re-worded for better understanding. I don't think we need to go into too much detail over GO-TO's goals in the intro. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 03:14, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
    • "given a new body." Why would he need a new body, what happened to the old one? You should probably mention that he was in the ship as well.
    • "This battle climaxed in a showdown between these spacers" What spacers? Were they the ones decieved by HK?
    • "HK-47's programming resulted in his enjoyment of bloodshed, and he took pleasure in any sort of violence, even describing his work as a form of art. He had a relatively condescending opinion towards organics, and made a habit of branding all organic lifeforms meatbags." I don't know if this is really neccisary, it's just a footnote disjointed from the intro.
    • That's it for now. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 01:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Context on Nar Shaddaa. It should also be stated that GO-TO is a droid.
    • As it reads now, the first paragraph jumps from his creation to his capture. There should be a mention that he was set on missions by Revan.
    • The first two sentences begin the article by saying that he was created at the beginning of the Jedi Civil War, then they say that he was created in the wake of Malachor V (I reworded this part a little but it was there before) NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 00:12, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
    • NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 06:12, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
  2. Nayayen
    • There is a fair bit of underlinking throughout. Don't forget that links shouldn't be unique to the intro and infobox just as much as information can't be.
      • After my copyedit I've also found cases of overlinking. For example, Visas Marr is not linked but Sith apprentice is linked at least twice in the body. Just remember: 1 link in intro, 1 in body, 1 in infobox and 1 in each image caption (if the latter two apply). NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 16:08, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
      • I've since linked and unlinked most of the ones that I could find, if you still see any, feel free to point them out and I'll take care of them immediately. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
    • In the intro, where did Revan find HK again?
    • "Revan decided that more droids of this design would make efficient agents for his purposes." -What are his purposes?
    • Am I not correct in thinking that the Sand People then let Revan hear from their storyteller? HK-47 would translate for both parties as before but would often advise against responses that may offend the storyteller.
      • Actually Revan meets directly with the chieftain while HK provides translation. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
        • That is correct but I am fairly certain that you can meet with the storyteller if you fully follow the quest through. For starters, most of what the storyteller's lines (or rather, HK's translations) have the "Sound Resref" of "nm20aaxsto-----"; you can check yourself. If you give the chieftain a krayt dragon pearl then he will deem you worthy enough to meet the storyteller. Please look into it. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 15:24, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
          • Yeah, you're correct. I was never generous enough to give them my pearl, so I didn't recall this happening. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
    • "was honored with Revan's other companions as heroes of the Republic, possibly even being awarded the Cross of Glory" -He either was or wasn't awarded it. There shouldn't be speculation about it.
      • Fixed. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
        • I can't find any reference to him being awarded it in the TSL tlk file. Do you have the StrRef for it? NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 15:24, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
          • I watched the ending of KOTOR again and Dodonna states that she's "proud to honor each of you with the Cross of Glory," which I think makes it a safe assumption that HK-47 received it as well. If you disagree, I'd be perfectly fine with removing any mention of the award. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
    • '"The attack failed when the Jedi Exile, Visas Marr, Nihilus's former Sith apprentice; and the current Mandalore, Canderous Ordo, along with a large force of Mandalorians boarded Nihilus's flagship, the Ravager, killed Nihilus, and destroyed the ship." -This is very disjointed, please fix it.
    • You need to put the P&t quote into {{Dialogue}}.
    • How could you not even mention his definition of love in the P&t?
    • "The droid also found attacking a Jedi's allies, as Jedi would often sacrifice themselves to save an ally." -This sentence doesn't make sense.
    • Who, if anyone, voiced him in SWG?
      • After checking IMDB pages for both HK and Tabori, it doesn't appear he has a VA in Galaxies, although I'm unfamiliar with the game, and could be mistaken. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
        • Well, knowing that IMDB isn't always reliable, can you check with someone who has it? Someone in WP:SWG should be willing and able. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 13:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
    • Does his Force alignment differ between KotOR and TSL?
    • I don't think this is something that you yourself might be able to fix but can you see about having the "companions of Revan" succession box made the same style as "companions of the Jedi Exile"?
      • I'll look into it, but I'm admittedly not very good with dealing with that sort of stuff. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
      • This is overstepping the bounds of the FAN process, to put it politely. You don't want to hear what I really think of this kind of nonsensical objection. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 22:16, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
      • FWIW, I did modify the template for consistency's sake, if nothing else. It now matches the KOTOR II template. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 22:31, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
        • My apologies Culator, I meant to have this as a comment and not an objection. Thank you Fraajic for sorting it. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 13:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
    • The URL references all need to use {{Cite web}}.
      • I'm unfortunately terrible when dealing with refs, so would it be too much to ask for you to fix one as an example? Then I'd know exactly what to do and would fix the rest myself. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
        • Certainly, it took me ages to figure them out myself... I've done Ref13. One thing to note is that accessdate needs the format yyyy/mm/dd. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 13:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
          • Ok, I fixed the refs, but I did end up listing the Team Gizka one multiple times because I couldn't get the ref name to work. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order)
            • They work the same as normal refs but instead of ''[[SOURCE]]'' for the first one, you put in the Cite web template. I've fixed them for you. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 07:14, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
    • Ref No.6 (kotorcg) needs fixing.
    • Some of the categories seem a little odd, specifically the "culture" ones. Can you find any more suitable ones?
    • I can't believe that there aren't more interwiki links. Please check the list and see if any more languages have HK-47 yet.
    • I may find some more after I do a copyedit this weekend. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 22:25, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
    • Four more for you. NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 16:08, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
      • "Separatist scientists began studying design elements of HK-47" -who are the Separatists? Someone who doesn't know that the CIS are the Separatists wouldn't be able to see the connection.
      • Further to the linking issues, there seems to be at least 3 things in the Mustafar section that should be linked but aren't.
      • "Whether these were intentionally installed by Revan or simply part of his protocol droid package is unclear." -This should be reworded to be from an IU perspective.
      • Can the paragraph of the P&t with brackets in be reworded to remove them?
  3. Naru continues...
    • "Revan renounced the Jedi Order and left along with his friend Malak to search for Star Maps left behind by an ancient civilization so he could find and use the superweapon known as the Star Forge." Use the Star Forge to do what? What does the Star Forge do?
    • "While HK-47 displayed obedience to those he identified as his master, he had little regard for any form of life and admitted that he was driven by a desire for violence and carnage. He characteristically used the term meatbag when speaking of organic life forms, especially Humans." This sounds like it should be in the P&T. The following reason for it could also be moved there as well.
      • I feel that this segment is important where it is, as it establishes the type of programming Revan gave him and explains the origin of the meatbag term. I reworded it a bit so it hopefully fits a bit better. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 01:23, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
    • "The droid would continue to serve Revan during the Jedi Civil War, a devastating coonflict between a Sith Empire that Revan created after his turn to the dark side and the Galactic Republic, helping him locate the Star Forge and assassinating beings who could potentially destabilize the galaxy until his master sent him on an assassination mission into Mandalorian space." This is a double "and" and also mildly confusing. Reword.
    • Revan's memories were lost due to the intervention of the Jedi Council, not as a direct result of Malak's bombardment. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 00:45, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
    • NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 01:00, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
    • Objection(s) overridden by Inquisitorius 23:57, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Objections:
    • First of all, please standardize your paragraph length. Some are just uber-long, while the others are tiny.
    • Intro: However, HK-47 had been badly damaged and captured on a mission in Mandalorian space shortly before Revan was captured by the Jedi Order. The assassin droid's memory core was damaged, causing him to forget about his master, and he went from owner to owner, many of whom he inadvertently slew personally. Damaged is a bit repetitive. Please change one.
    • The droid also accompanied Revan to the edge of the Unknown Regions along with Revan's utility droid, T3-M4, before being left behind in Revan's starship, the Ebon Hawk, as the proclaimed Jedi Knight journeyed on to face a threat he had remembered from his time as the Dark Lord. Quite confusing as to who "the Jedi Knight" refers to, since you don't establish in the into that Revan was a Jedi.
    • Revan's assassin: Not long after the resolution of the war, Revan renounced the Jedi Order and left along with his friend Malak to search for Star Maps left behind by an ancient civilization so he could find and use the Star Forge, a superweapon which could produce an endless supply of war material, which Revan hoped to use in conquering the Republic. This one is a run-on.
    • The Jedi Council ordered the Sith Lord's memories be re-written, and Revan lost his original memories, including those of HK-47's existence. Change one of the "memories" to something else.
    • From master to master: The droid shut himself down once again after this discovery and was sold to a Human senator on the galactic capital of Coruscant. I believe that "this discovery" refers to the disovery of his master's death, but please reword to make it more clear.
    • Back with Revan: It was also the signal for HK-47's internal programming to undo the simulated damage to his primary memory core… Are you sure "simulated" is the appropriate word here? Because is sounds as if HK simulated the damage intentionally, which, from what I can tell, was not the case.
    • Please provide more context for Revan's search for the Star Forge. Why did he want to find it the second time?
      • Context added. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 19:26, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
        • Now you have two consecutive sentences that state that Revan was looking for the Star Forge. Please fix this.
          • Fixed. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 23:27, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
            • Objection stands. Revan was once again trying to find the Star Forge and was looking for the Star Map located on Tatooine. Revan was once again searching for the Star Maps, this time on behalf of the Jedi Council, in order to locate and destroy the superweapon and save the Republic from defeat. These two sentences still state the same info. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 20:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
    • Promise: Will continue with the "The Jedi Exile" later. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:18, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
    • The Jedi Exile: When the Jedi Exile who had since gained ownership of the Ebon Hawk reactivated HK-47, using parts retrieved from the imitation HK-50s and a junk dealer on Nar Shaddaa, the droid was enraged to discover these copies of himself, citing their coloration and their lack of using the meatbag reference, instead using "organic," as examples of their inferiority in his eyes. Run-on.
    • …the droid joined the Exile in her journey to find and unite the surviving Jedi Masters from the former Jedi High Council of the First Jedi Purge. Reads as if it was "The Jedi Council of the First Jedi Purge". Please reword.
    • Context on G0-T0 upon first mention.
      • GO-TO is given context in the intro, but I added some context there anyway. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 19:22, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
        • Comment: The intro and the main body are two separate entities. A subject needs to be given context in both. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 20:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
    • Please move the part about Revan erasing HK's memory to its chronological spot.
      • Moved. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 19:22, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
        • Still not good. This needs to be moved to the point where the erasing was actually performed by Revan, i.e. the ending of the "Back with Revan" section. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 20:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
    • Darth Nihilus, a member of an organization of Dark Lords of the Sith, was tricked by Kreia into attacking the Jedi Academy there, thinking that he could sap the Jedis' Force energy when in reality the only Force-sensitive in the academy was its founder, Jedi Master Atris, the rest were Force-blind Echani Handmaidens. Again, run-on. Also, the plural form of Jedi is also "Jedi", not "Jedis".
    • …freeing Bao-Dur's remote to activate the Mass Shadow Generator… Who's Bao-Dur? There is no mention of him prior to this part.
    • Sometime during the thousands of years between then and the Galactic Civil War, HK-47's artificial intelligence was transferred to a computer located in a Hammerhead-class cruiser. Explain that HK-47's chassis was also aboard the cruiser when it crashed, because the mention of the Separatists finding it later doesn't make much sense otherwise.
    • "Retirement" on Mustafar: When the Separatist Confederacy of Independent Systems arrived on Mustafar during the on-going Clone Wars Choose either the "Separatists" or the "Confederacy of Independent Systems." Using both together feels kinda excessive.
    • Context on Darth Vader.
    • after Vader and the Imperial forces left Mustafar Again, what "Imperial" forces? There's no mention of any Empire.
      • Context added. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 19:22, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
        • Darth Vader's actions brought an end to the Clone Wars and the Separatist movement and secured the security of the new Galactic Empire. Secured the security? :P QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 20:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
    • HK-47 instructed the spacers to invade the Kubaza Beetle Cavern and enable his AI to be transferred from the ship. How would the spacers invading the cavern help HK-47 transfer his AI? Was there some kind of switch in the cavern or what?
      • I'm not entirely sure what the process was since I never played Galaxies so I opted for a more general description which hopefully suffices. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 00:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • Overall, the chronology of events in this section is quite confusing. What was the point of restoring the power to the facility? Did HK transfer his consciousness there as the facility's article claims? What did the six-digit code do? Please go through the section again and try to fix these.
    • HK-47 informed them that, although he appreciated their help for returning him to his body, he would have to get the factory back up and running to get some payback from those who had taken it from him. Who had taken what? The body or the factory?
      • Whoever wrote this section in the beginning really didn't do a good job, but I've hopefully addressed all concerns. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 00:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • Droid factory leads to a disambiguation page.
    • Also, I count five redlinks in the article. Take care of them (though I don't think we need an article for "gas").
    • Will continue with "Personality and traits" later. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 19:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
    • For example, if asking a question, he would first say "Query:", before beginning a question such as, "Query: Who would you like killed today, master?." Feels too detailed. I believe the first part of the sentence is sufficient.
    • He was fluent in Galactic Basic Standard, Tusken, Binary, Jawa trade language, and boasted that he was fluent in over 6,000 forms of communication. "He was fluent" is repetitive
    • Could you state the dates of KotORs and SWG in the biography? It is always better to let the reader know when an event took place.
      • Good idea. The Mustafar section already had a date, so I just added them in the others. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 00:58, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
    • Statement: That's all. Good work. Now fix all that's left, and I'll be happy to give my vote :) QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 20:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
      • All of the remaining objections stand. I've seen no changes made to satisfy them in the page history. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I must have missed the save button or something, please take a look now. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 00:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Soresu makes a rare appearance on the FAN page
  6. Attack of the Clone
    • "During this period, HK-50 assassin droids, a newer version of HK that Revan had mass-produced, were found by G0-T0, the leader of the Exchange organization on the notorious Hutt-controlled moon Nar Shaddaa. G0-T0 was in truth a droid, and was forced to act in secrecy to preserve his identity, which led him to hire the HK-50s as bounty hunters, and the droids soon began traveling around the galaxy helping him achieve his goals." Is this much context really relevant to HK-47 himself? Remember, intros are only supposed to provide the reader with the most basic understanding of the subject possible.
    • Could you please clarify the conflicts between the manufacturers in the infobox? The infobox should really only use what is fully verified, so if the actual manufacturer is unknown, then the infobox should reflect that.
      • I've switched it to unknown, but I would like to point out that Czerka is said to be the rumored manufacturer in the official Databank entry if that makes any difference. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 22:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
        • That still does not solve it. The infobox still needs to maintain an IU perspective, and "unknown" clarifies as OOU. CC7567 (talk) 03:07, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
    • The relevancy of nearly the entire first paragraph of the Biography is questionable. Please clarify why all of it is important and how it is directly relevant to HK-47.
      • I removed bits which weren't absolutely necessary but I feel the remaining content is important in clarifying why Revan chose to construct HK specifically after the battle at Malachor, and also explains why a Jedi would consider using an assassin. I understand your point about it relating to HK, but I feel the backdrop of his construction is an important part of his biography as well. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 23:44, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
        • I'm sorry, but my point of view still stands. I cannot honestly understand why throwaway bits of information, including why Malachor V was chosen as a battlefield, are directly relevant to HK-47. Furthermore, you mention the Mass Shadow Generator but don't even clarify if it was the instigator of the "destruction caused at Malachor" that you later state was the reasons behind Revan's construction of HK-47—for that reason, since you don't clarify why it's relevant, it isn't relevant. Please make this connection clearer or just shorten or scrap it all together; context isn't context when it's not clarified as context. CC7567 (talk) 06:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
          • I've removed most of the irrelevant information so it hopefully works now. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 22:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
    • If you choose to keep it, Revan's "turn to the dark side" is extremely unclear in the first paragraph of the Biography.
      • Would you like me to go into more detail about their fall? That part isn't very relevent because that delves deep into content which isn't related to HK very much at all, mainly their encounter with the True Sith and the Sith Emperor. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 23:44, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
        • No, what you've added is fine. (And yes, you're right that adding any more information would be irrelevant.) CC7567 (talk) 06:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
    • "who claimed him as his spoils": please check this; it's not very clear.
    • "and began using him to elevate his rank by eliminating rivals": same as above.
    • "The Senator instead ordered HK-47 to kill the assistant, and the droid remained with his master, helping him eliminate his political enemies. The Senator was on the way to being elected as the Supreme Chancellor, but things did not go as they had been planned." This is unclear. Did the Senator want to eliminate his political rivals in order to be elected Chancellor? If so, this needs to be clarified, because it's irrelevant at the moment.
    • "Revan was once again trying to find the Star Forge and was looking for the Star Map located on Tatooine. Revan was once again searching for the Star Maps, this time on behalf of the Jedi Council, in order to locate and destroy the superweapon and save the Republic from defeat." Please smooth out the redundant wordings here.
    • Please source that {{Fact}} tag.
    • I think that's enough for now. The two things I would recommend watching at this point are your level of context and your verb tense. For context, all that needs to be included in the article is what is directly relevant to HK-47 or is completely necessary to understand other parts of the article. For verb tense, future tense should only be used where necessary, as the shifts between past and future make the article confusing. I would recommend running through the entire article and try to fix these issues soon, preferably before I continue my review. I'll continue with "The Jedi Exile" once you have fixed these issues. CC7567 (talk) 02:56, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
  7. Galaxies
    • The article Star Wars Galaxies: Trials of Obi-Wan states that the droid can be destroyed. Is this true? Also, are there any other, alternative ways to the Mustafar quest, which should be noted in the BtS? And, should you add the links to the Trials of Obi-Wan? Kreivi Wolter 11:21, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
      • Yes, as stated in the article, you do destroy HK-47, but he survives in another body and sends you the hologram. There is only one way to complete the Mustafar quest. There are already sufficient links to Trials of Obi-Wan in the Mustafar section of the article and in fact, we decided to remove some as they were overly specific and unnecessary. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 22:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Attack II
    • "He was partially repaired by an unknown party." This should be ringing sirens in your head by now. Please fix or scrap this OOU perspective.
    • "although he did seem familiar with G0-T0, a droid crime lord who also joined the Jedi Exile": either he's familiar with him or he isn't, nothing in between.
    • "The Exile had left instructions to destroy Malachor V, which G0-T0 tried to prevent": this is very choppy and unclear. What exactly was G0-T0 trying to prevent?
    • "Sometime during the thousands of years between then and the Galactic Civil War": when is then?
    • "For unknown reasons": OOU perspective.
    • "the terminal in the Hammerhead-class cruiser contacted a group of spacers": so the "terminal" can contact people all on its own? Please clarify.
    • "Revan may have directly programmed such behavior when designing HK-47, although these tendencies may have simply been part of HK-47's protocol droid package." Speculation does not belong in IU articles. Please reword or nuke it.
    • "As HK-47's AI was taken to create the next generation of HK droids, this trait also carried over to the HK-50 models, though these later models would more often add adjectives to their speech conditionals such as "Veiled threat" or "Irritated statement", most likely to contribute toward their disguises as protocol droids." I'm not sure about you, but this appears both irrelevant and speculative to me; please clarify this.
    • Fix that {{Fact}} tag, please.
    • "The origins of HK-47's name come from BioWare writer Drew Karpyshyn, who states on his website that the origin for the name of HK-47 is as follows: "My billiard team is the original source of the name for a popular character in the Knights of the Old Republic game. My team was made up of 4 players with the last name Harrison, and 1 player (me) with the name Karpyshyn. So with 4 H's and 1 K we were going to call ourselves the HK-41's. But we decided HK-47 sounded more intimidating because of the well known AK-47 rifle, so we became the HK-47's. Several years later, when I went to work for BioWare, I tacked the name onto the homicidal Hunter-Killer robot assassin who joined the player on his quest."" If you're going to quote something, please do it properly and place it where it should go; however, I'm sure that you can find a better way of reiterating the origins of his name rather than just simply copying it directly from the guy's website.
    • "It is unknown if it was intended that HK-47 would perish with Malachor V, but given his resurgence in the Rebellion era, no ending in which he did can be considered canon-compatible. Same issue with speculation that I've reiterated twice before. Not even cut scenes should have it.
    • I will be going through this article once more with you after all of these have been fixed. Please dedicate as much time as possible to therefore ensure that the article is at its best quality and complies with all of Wookieepedia's policies. CC7567 (talk) 03:07, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Clone Attack III
    • Please remember that there's another objection remaining somewhere above from one of my earlier reviews.
      • As to the objection about the manufacturers, I must admit I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to properly fix the problem. Could you please explain how I should deal with it? JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 02:27, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
        • You can simply remove the "Unknown" and end the problem. If the Manufacturer field isn't field, the reader automatically assumes that it isn't known, but this way you let the reader make that assumption instead of doing so yourself. CC7567 (talk) 02:39, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
    • "HK-47 also aided the Exile in her search for the surviving Jedi Masters": can more context be given for what, specifically, the Jedi Masters "survived"?
    • Can this "political assassin" role be better worded? If Revan had him assassinate political individuals, then it should be stated as such.
    • "Revan did, in fact, use Czerka's HK-24 design as a basis for his model and included several of his own upgrades." As this fact has much more relevance earlier on—say, at the beginning of the Bio—can it be placed as such?
    • Context on the Star Forge in the Bio, please.
    • Can a link be placed somewhere for Malak's betrayal? I'm sure that there's an article for the battle that exists here.
    • "As a sign of appreciation, the chieftain gave Revan his personal gaffi stick as a sign of gratitude": please pick either the appreciation or gratitude; the redundancy is rather unnecessary.
    • "Revan later encountered Malak for the first time since his former Sith apprentice had betrayed him. This meeting proved to be the stimulus necessary for Revan to remember the truth about his own history." Any links to events that can be implemented here?
    • "HK-47 remained with Revan until the end of the former Dark Lord's journey, following him to the Star Forge and aiding in the destruction of the superweapon as well as the defeat of Darth Malak." Same as above.
    • "Somehow during the intervening time": can this be reworded at all? It's not very clear.
      • JethLordMaster, I just realized that this objection has not been stricken, and further inspection of the article indicates that it hasn't been addressed yet. Please do so as soon as possible. CC7567 (talk) 08:02, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
        • I apologize for appearing to have ignored this one, I just didn't see it. Fixed now. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 03:43, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
    • Context on the Jedi Exile in the Bio.
    • In keeping with many of the current FAs, can "Characteristics" and "Abilities" be used instead of the P&T and S&A, which are more centered around organic characters themselves? CC7567 (talk) 23:05, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
    • If the First Jedi Purge is a conjecturally titled article, then it cannot be used as a canon name in the article. Please clarify. CC7567 (talk) 23:57, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  10. File:WeatheredHK-47-K2.jpg is ridiculously low quality. Get someone better to re-do it. --Imperialles 03:08, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
    • I've sent a request to Redemption and I'll update once the image is up. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 06:02, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
      • You realize that Red's not the only one who can get good screenshots, as the editors of the CSWE and Wizards.com would attest. That is, if you put a gun to their heads and made them finally admit it. Though the only thing that's really wrong with the original is the nasty background texture, I think the angle and lighting of mine show off HK's aging better. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 22:33, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
        • Why thank you Culator, that image is indeed very nice. I apologize for not seeking you out earlier. I feel it is sufficient to fulfill the objection. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 23:29, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  11. BTS stuff: I would note that the NEGTD/KOTOR CG includes some of the cut content, with notes on what was changed (namely, 47 gets the allegiance of the HK-50s instead of the HK-51s). The Team Gizka reference is rather out of date at this point, and I don't think it's really relevant to HK himself. Futurama reference seems a bit random; I guess you're trying to imply without saying that they may have gotten the term from it, but it comes off awkwardly, so I'd probably just drop the whole thing. Also you might want to note this; it's from a CD included in the Prima Strategy Guide. - Lord Hydronium 04:18, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Four Dot
    • "The droid went on to aid Revan after his return to the Jedi Order in his campaign to find and destroy the Star Forge, an ancient factory that Revan had used during his reign as the Dark Lord of the Sith and that his former Sith apprentice was utilizing in an attempt to conquer the Galactic Republic." - bit of a run-on there.
    • "HK-47 appeared more than satisfied to be reunited with his master, but later commented that Revan had changed since he had last served him, stating that Revan was more compassionate than before despite the droid's belief that Revan was just as capable." - I suspect that you're alluding to his capacity for... "evil" I suppose, but it should be elaborated on or rephrased.
    • "HK-47 and the HK-50s intervened on the Exile's behalf and destroyed their former employer." - Wait, so G0-T0 is the HK-50s' former employer? This should be mentioned earlier... if it already is, I apologise.
    • Tis all. Thefourdotelipsis 11:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  13. That particular droid's proper name is G0-T0 with zeros, not GO-TO. SinisterSamurai 03:31, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 00:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

  • Is there a succession box for "owners of HK-47"? I think there were at least 7 and it would be useful to have. This isn't an objection but could you look into it? NayayenOld Republic military symboltalk 22:25, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
  • Not objection-worthy, but aren't there any other pictures of HK? 'Cause right now there are only images of him standing still, and I would like to see him shooting stuff :P QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:18, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
    • I've since gotten some nice images from Redemption up on the page of HK in action. JethLordMasterYing yang copy (Xia Order) 06:02, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
  • You might want to mention in the BTS that he is mentioned in the CSWE. His entry is listed as "HK-47 droid".--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 02:37, February 17, 2010 (UTC)