Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Croke

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Croke

• Nominated by: ~Savage 22:32, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: Melts in your hand, not in your mouth.

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)

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Teff 01:59, June 24, 2011 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: Wookieepedia:Sock puppetry -- Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 03:12, July 13, 2011 (UTC))

1. --Eyrezer 00:20, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
2. IFYLOFD ^{(Floyd's crib)} 01:37, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
3. Kilson^{(Let's have a chat)} 01:50, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
4. Menkooroo 14:08, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
5. 1358 ^(Talk) 11:53, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
6. CC7567 ^(talk) 06:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Object

Croca Cola

• "At one point in their past," --- a timeframe hasn't been established yet, so referring to the "past" raises the question of what this past is relative to. Maybe "history" would fit better?
• I noticed that Gepta isn't linked to in the intro. I'm 99% sure that he's the "one individual" from the first paragraph, but I'll leave the pipelinking to you just in case I'm wrong. :P
• It looks like the Oswaft and the biological weapon are only mentioned in the intro. Could they be name-dropped during the Thonboka stuff in the body? Also, is the biological weapon distinct enough to receive its own article?
• Ditto "Galactic Empire." Only mentioned in the intro; can it be worked into the body somewhere around the Palpatine stuff?
• Can you find a synonym for "indeed" the second time around in Bio & appearance?
• If all Croke are Force-sensitive, could this be noted and explicitly stated in Bio & appearance? If this is true, then go for Category:Force-sensitive species too. I'd add it myself, but I just wanna make sure that we're talking the entire species here.
• Has the concept of "Croke Illusory presence" been overridden by more recent canon? Is it a thing?
• One more: I really don't think that the reprint of the Lando adventures merits an additional mention in the "Appearances" section. Being an appearance rather than a source, I would see it as more akin to something like Star Wars: Legacy: Alliance than Star Wars: Complete Cross-Sections. Thoughts?
• Fantastic job! Gepta is... scary. Menkooroo 15:30, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
  • Everything should be taken care of except for a couple of things. The Oswaft and Empire stuff I need to look up in the OS'es, but I'm in the middle of a move, so it may take a bit of time. I'll do my best, though, to respond to the concerns, since you're right: the Oswaft and the Empire should be mentioned in the body too. As for the Force-sensitivity, is it not clear enough as it stands? The article notes that the illusion ability is based on manipulation of the Force, I mean. Finally, as far as I can tell, "Croke illusory presence" is simply a game term for the Croke illusion ability. The WEG and WOTC RPGs give these names to the abilities as shorthand for players, but I can simply nix the shout-out if it's confusing. Thanks for the review! :) ~Savage 16:16, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
    • The changes look great. And yeah, looking at it again, the note about Force-sensitivity is pretty clear. Good luck with the move! Menkooroo 00:21, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
      • Empire thing taken care of. Weapon thing taken care of. Oh, the wonders of Amazon's book search. :) ~Savage 21:15, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
• One more thing: Can you note their natural Force-sensitivity in the intro? It's a pretty important fact about them, and the intro's current wording of "Once Force-sensitive Croke, Rokur Gepta" implies that he's one of the only ones. Menkooroo 12:01, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
  • Good point; rectified (I think). ~Savage 13:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Attack of the Clone

• Just one: is there a reason why the infobox isn't filled with an image of Rokur Gepta? (Does it have to do with the fact that he hasn't ever been depicted in his natural form, or was it just an oversight?) If one of his images is suitable, I would suggest using it for the infobox so that the article can get an infobox image. CC7567 ^(talk) 21:08, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
  • Yeah, my thinking was that the infobox should ideally show a Croke in its natural form, and all we have from Gepta are illusory forms. In my opinion, that doesn't quite reach the level of infobox-worthy, although it's still useful to have in the article proper. ~Savage 03:26, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
    • What about using an image of Gepta with a note under the image like "(A Croke masked by illusory powers)"? I realize the problem, but I'm still a little hesitant about not using an image of a subject when one is available—even though it may not be the perfect one to use, it's still one that can be used. What do you think? CC7567 ^(talk) 07:48, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
      • Hmm. I suppose I could use [[:File:Rokur Gepta.jpg|this image]], but I'm still hesitant. They could presumably look like anything, and the "Biology and appearance" image already conveys the fact that they could mask their true form in illusions. What if I moved the "B&A" image from there to the infobox with that same caption? Would that work? ~Savage 02:32, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
        • Sure, that should be good. CC7567 ^(talk) 04:41, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
          • OK, done! ~Savage 03:16, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 06:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)