Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Comet (clone trooper)

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Comet (clone trooper)

Nominated by: Wok142 (talk) 07:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Nomination comments: First FAN, wish me luck
Date Archived: 04:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Final word count: 1506 words (199 introduction, 1261 body, 46 behind the scenes)
Word count at nomination time: 1485 words (185 introduction, 1258 body, 42 behind the scenes)
WookieeProject (optional): WP:TCW

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Support

Fabulous OOM 224 (he/him/they) 12:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Assuming Lew's objections are sorted —spookywilloww^talk 22:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 05:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
CometSmudge (talk) 06:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Booply (talk) 20:13, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Congrats on your first passed FAN! Master Fredcerique(talk) (he/him) 04:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Object

Braha

~~Kind of a preference on my end but I think it'd be good to slap some dates in the intro.~~

The Clone Wars gets more context in the intro than it does in the bio (same with detail on the Separatists' name). Can that be fixed please? Might be worth having that in the creation section.

Vanqor needs context in the intro. Zygerria and Lothal need context in the bio.

~~Might be worth introducing Oba Diah moon a lil better so that there's no confusion as to whether Oba Diah is the moon itself, like it's introduced in the intro.~~
- All addressed. Wok142 (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
I get why height is translated to all clones from a single source but weight feels a lil more arbitrary since it's all depending on diet, activity etc. If that's a precedent I'm strongly against it as it seems way to assumptive. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 14:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- According to lew, this is precedent, but you raise some good points. I'm leaving it for now because it's precedent, but I would be down to potentially change that. Wok142 (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
~~Can Nexus also get some context in the intro please?~~ Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 18:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. Wok142 (talk) 00:06, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

OOM

Review note: Nice work! Here's my wee copy-edit.
- Awesome thanks. Wok142 (talk) 04:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
~~Context for Coruscant needed~~
- Added. Wok142 (talk) 04:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
~~Not clear what "bridge" is supposed to refer to~~
- Supposed to be the bridge of the ship. I've linked it so that should help but I could also say "the bridge of the Venator" to be more clear? What do you think. Wok142 (talk) 04:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  - Yeah I think that would be ideal, in case readers aren't familiar with the terminology. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 18:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
    - Done. Wok142 (talk) 00:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
"pulling them from the ship and helping them into their gunship before the cruiser fell apart and was destroyed" — I think it would be clearer to firstly refer to the Venator specifically, either as "the Star Destroyer" as established earlier or just "Venator," rather than suddenly calling it a "cruiser."
- Changed. Wok142 (talk) 04:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
~~Is there an article for the "grapplers" that we can link to here?~~ OOM 224 (he/him/they) 11:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I no longer have Disney+ to check but are they just Ascension cables? That is linked a bit later but it can be linked here if it's the same thing. Wok142 (talk) 04:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  - Aye, seems to be the same thing. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 18:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
    - Added. Wok142 (talk) 00:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Thrawn

I know it's not really standard precedent (yet) but the infobox says that Comet's homeworld is Kamino, but the body states that they where rather "created" or born on Kamino. I don't have Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded, but if says that clones are created on Kamino, then it should be in the "birth" field and not the "homeworld" field. Conversely, if the book states they where from the planet, then the body should not state they where created there, and instead that there where raised there. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 17:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for interjecting, but there are two definitions to homeworld—a place where one was raised and a place where one was born—so Kamino's listing here is valid. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 18:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
  - If clones are known to be born and raised on Kamino, then it should be in both infobox fields, and the body should link to "homeworld" somewhere. For example, Barion Raner was born and raised on Ord Mantell, so both are listed in the infobox. If they are only known to be born and not raised on Kamino, then it should just be in the "birth" field of the infobox. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 22:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
    - I don't feel like it's an assumption to say that all clones are born and raised on Kamino. What if I just said in the Creation section "on the Wild Space planet and clone homeworld of Kamino" ? Wok142 (talk) 00:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
      - That would be fine as long as you included Kamino in both the birth an homeworld fields in the infobox. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 12:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
        As this would be a fairly significant change that would apply to many status articles, I think it's probably best if you bring up these ideas with the community first before I implement them here. I definitely see your point and would be open to this becoming new precedent but would also love to see some other opinions on this. Wok142 (talk) 21:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
        I checked Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded, it specifically says that the clones aren't really born on Kamino and more just grown, which imo more fits in line with the homeworld idea Lewisr (talk) 23:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
        Seems like it should be fine as it is currently then. Wok142 (talk) 22:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
        The article and the infobox contradict each other though. The article states that the clone trooper was created/born on Kamino, but the infobox only states that Comet was raised there. For example, with Rex, both homeworld and birth are filled out with Kamino, or to take a non-clone example Barion Raner was both born and raised on Ord Mantell, so both fields are filled out in the infobox. I know this isn't really precedent, but just becuase other status articles don't have their infoboxes properly filled out doesn't mean this one can't be fully accurate. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 13:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
        I'm kind of starting to agree with you, but there still is the matter of the two different definitions of homeworld (per OOM above) and the specific note in AEYNTK U&E that clones aren't really born on Kamino and more just grown (per Lew above), the first of which seems to solve the contradiction point and the second of which would suggest against using the birth field for clones. Wok142 (talk) 19:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
        I mean yeah I'd say in any other cases for a non-clone who was born in some sort of organic way, both listing would suit, but clones are more decanted than "born" so to say (per Lew) and so saying Comet was created there and that its the clones' homeworld is accurate. If it's really necessary you could also easily rearrange the first sentence's structure to contextualize Kamino as the homeworld of all clones since there's enough proof for that rather than only noting about the creation.—spookywilloww^talk 19:46, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
        I've now placed "clone homeworld of Kamino" in that first sentence now to make sure that information is in there. Wok142 (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Editor

~~If we're treating that Rebels moment as an indirect reference for Comet, wouldn't it confirm Comet's gender as male?~~ Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yea I guess if the comment by Wolffe is enough, then sure. Added. Wok142 (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

spookly

I do see what it was trying to do, but I do think the top two subsections should be made into one, three-paragraph subsection. They're not overly long subsections and we do, in most cases, avoid single paragraph sections and prefer 2-3 paragraph sections on SAs. The legacy one seems fine since it's a decently large gap in time but the top one seems like it'd fit fine as one.—spookywilloww^talk 05:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merged. Wok142 (talk) 07:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Lew

~~Human is infobox exclusive~~ Lewisr (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Added. Wok142 (talk) 20:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
~~You'll need to do a pronouns update~~ Lewisr (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Added pronoun cat, is that all you meant? Wok142 (talk) 20:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
  - Ah then you'll need to change the instances of he/his/him if Comet's aren't specified Lewisr (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
    - Oh wow that completely didn't occur to me. Should be all sorted now. Wok142 (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
~~Is the Ultimate Star Wars reference able to be updated to Ultimate Star Wars, New Edition?~~ Lewisr (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately no, I've checked and Wasskah is mentioned in Ahsoka's section without mention of being a moon. Wok142 (talk) 20:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
~~I think you can merge the Kadavo and Oba Diah sections~~ Lewisr (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merged. Wok142 (talk) 20:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 04:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)