Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Chironian

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Chironian

• Nominated by: Eyrezer 12:03, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: Hullaba-Lusa!

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

1. Half-Bothan next? ~Savage 22:56, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
   • Actually, yes! --Eyrezer 11:51, June 7, 2012 (UTC)
2. Plagueis327 18:12, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
3. Gave it a copy-edit. Looks good to me. Can't wait for Half-Bothan and your take on the many unidentified species that are listed in a certain Senate Hall thread... Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 05:31, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
4. Looks good. IFYLOFD ^{(Floyd's crib)} 01:00, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
5. "Chironian" sounds like the name of an insectoid species to me. Probably because of Charon. Menkooroo (talk) 01:08, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
6. Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 08:37, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
7. Wrong Greek myth, Menk. ;-) Though chitin may also be fueling those thoughts. jSarek (talk) 21:09, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Savaged…

• Throughout you describe them as having an "equine body." Could this be changed to something more descriptive, like, maybe, "equine lower body"? After all, their torso and arms and so on are part of their body as well, and those are humanoid.
  • Hmm. In this, I have followed the pattern of "Who's Who in the New Jedi Order", which states that Lusa "possessed the body of a mythological centaur -- the head and torso of a human female and the body of an equine animal". I chose to treat this as the appropriate anatomical division, such as one would separate head, thorax, and abdomen in an insect. Still think I should change it?
    • I do, simply because the head and thorax are part of the body as well; so are eyes, hands, teeth, etc. Just by calling it her "lower body," this ambiguity would disappear, I think. ~Savage 16:19, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
      • Do(n)e. I did not add lower to several mentions,like body color, but I think this is consistent with your suggestion. --Eyrezer 21:02, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
• Does the red-gold color apply to the whole creature, or only the horse part?
  • I presume the whole creature. The color is made in a blanket statement, and apart from the spots, no division of color is ever implied that I could see.
• I think the lead talks too much about Lusa. Can everything be pared down to two paragraphs?
  • Done.
• You've currently got some of their behavior in "Biology and appearance" and some in "Society and culture." I'd be inclined to move it all to "S&C." I'm thinking specifically about stuff like being able to swim, how they express emotion, etc.
  • Done.
• Do they all have a heavy accent when speaking Basic, or only a few known examples?
  • Clarified.
• So I'm to take it Lusa goes naked in her early appearances? If so, fine, but it's surprising for a kids' book!
  • Apparently!
    • Yikes! Guess it's similar to who the Ghostlings went from a prostitute species to ephemeral children in the EU... ~Savage 16:19, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
• Can you alter the language in the first two paragraphs of "History" a bit to mention the Chrironians more? While I think the information there belongs in the article, it should relate a bit more to the species rather than the planet.
  • Done.
• "became closely involved" -- does this mean romantically or sexually? If so, can you clarify? ~Savage 22:35, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • It is ambiguous and so I have stuck to the language of the NJOSB, which simply says "Raynar became closely involved with Lusa". Raynar certainly seems to have a crush on her in the YJK, but given the age of the characters and the audience of the series that is as far as it goes. --Eyrezer 04:30, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
• Oh, and some mention of the centaur Chiron from Greek mythology is probably in order for BTS, however that needs to be done to avoid straying into OR territory. ~Savage 22:47, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review -- some good catches there. I've addressed some, questioned other and will work on the rest. I also wasn't aware of "Chiron", so will look into it. --Eyrezer 04:30, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
    • Researching Chiron made me pay more attention to the origin of the Chironian name, which is now also reflected in the BTS. Let me know what you think. --Eyrezer 05:55, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Cav

• Each year,[3] the Chironian head grew two horns above the temples. So do Chironians have multiple horns the older they get? - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 10:06, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
  • It is unclear. The only mention of this idea is in the Star Wars Encyclopedia, which simply states that "her species grows forehead horns each year". I have largely kept the same wording. The image of Lusa during the NJO shows only two horns, so I am guessing authorial intent is based on the ideas of deer shedding their horns each year, but this is not made clear. Grateful for suggestions to reword if you think it is necessary. --Eyrezer (talk) 10:56, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
    • Nah, should be good. If it's not explicitly mentioned, then stating as is should be fine. Just wanted to be clear. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 08:37, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

jSarek needs to think of a humorous yet appropriate header for his objections.

• Can the three sentences on eyes be condensed down to two? It's a lot of word space to tell us that their eyes look and act basically like we'd expect. jSarek (talk) 10:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
  • Eyes are complex things! But combined. --Eyrezer (talk) 10:46, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
• Is the "at least one sex" line really useful or helpful? jSarek (talk) 10:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
  • I was asked to add it by another user, although I am not convinced of its utility.
    • Not worth starting a debate with a third person over it, though if people start treating it as a precedent I might have to get fussy. jSarek (talk) 21:09, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
• "The Chironian species was native to Chiron, a planet that featured meadows." This reads a bit dully, and since you mention the planet's meadows later in the section, you can probably leave out that detail and go directly into the planet's galactic geography. jSarek (talk) 10:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
  • Done. --Eyrezer (talk) 10:46, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
• I made a few wording tweaks to the article; feel free to revert or adjust if you don't like them. And that's all; the article is otherwise pretty spiffy. :-) jSarek (talk) 10:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review. --Eyrezer (talk) 10:46, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
    • You're welcome. :-) jSarek (talk) 21:09, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 03:05, July 11, 2012 (UTC)