Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Celeste Morne

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Celeste Morne

  • Nominated by: Ajeanette 6 July 2008
  • Nomination comments:I managed to receive good article status with plenty of help and guidance and I am ready to take the next step.

(1 Inqs/1 Users/0 Total)

Support

  1. Great job with the article. We love to see major characters get FA'd. DC 17:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. From DC
    • Eliminate links in her quotes.
    • Early Career: Give some context on what a Shadow was.
    • Same with the Muur Talisman.
    • I think it would be a good idea to include the Covenant's vision of Muur.
    • In Pursuit of the Muur Talisman: Taris: "In the Tarisian Undercity, Celeste came to the aid of Sector Constable Noana Sowrs under attack by rakghouls, deformed, mindless mutants which could transmit a namesake plague through their bites." This sentence is missing some key parts, and as a result, doesn't read right.
    • "From their conversation." Zayne and Celeste had a conversation? Transition that better from the sentence before that to the given sentence so its understandable.
    • Give a bit more context on who Gryph was.
    • Jebble: "In the process, they discovered that Jebble was not just a local war forge or training center, but a staging area for invasion, and all of the Mandalorian recruits from the Outer Rim present were about to become infected by the disease," is a major run-on. Please fix this.
    • Sending out Communication: Give some context about who Cassus Fett was.
    • What happened to Pulsipher?
    • Possession: "Celeste became enraged at the duo for questioning her devotion to the Draay family and the Covenant and turned on them," is another run-on.
    • Give context on Crys Taanzer as well.
    • Oh come on, there is a lot more you could write with the P&A and P&T. There is nothing from the Dark Times comics in there, and she has been featured prominently in six issues.
      • Addressed Ajeanette 24 July 2008
        • I still think it could be expanded a bit further. DC 21:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
          • Addressed Ajeanette 26 July 2008
            • Alright, it looks a lot better than before now. Great job. DC 03:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Also, you could expand on what has been said of Vector 7. She engaged Skywalker in a duel, and was fully controlled by the Muur Talisman at this time.
      • I added a little bit, but I think it would be a good idea to hold off on most of this for now. I took the summaries and previews for their word as to how the Talisman has affected her by Vector 7 and although the cover shows a duel between her and Skywalker, from experience, covers can, at times, be deceiving. As soon as I am sure I will update, but if you feel otherwise please let me know why. Ajeanette 17 July 2008
    • And seriously, the other side? I would fix this myself, but I think it would be a good idea for you to fix this. Change it to the Rebellion.
    • This article isn't bad, but there is a lot of missing context, and a tad bit of missing info. Some sentences transitioned badly as well, so it would be a good idea to run this through another copyedit. DC 01:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
      • I realize that this may be a long list to fulfill, and that it could take some time to fix all of my objections, but honestly, taking an article from a GA to a FA is a big step to take. I don't know if you've been through the FAN page process before, but I'm telling you right now, this article may take a while to become a FA. If you need little bit of help, Fourdot wrote an excellent tutorial on character FAs that I use quite often when I write FAs. DC 21:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. From the stasis chamber of Chack Jadson:
    • Context on Shadow in the intro.
      • I cleaned up the first paragraph and added a few words in order to connect information from the first sentence to the second. If you feel a reader would still be confused let me know where the wording is ambiguous. Ajeanette 6 August 2008
    • "As an agent for the Covenant, the records of her identity were erased from Jedi Order rolls so that she would give her whole effort in service to the Covenant's cause to prevent the rise of the Sith." This could be written better.
    • Context on Karness in the intro.
    • "Ever since the Muur Talisman was lost on Taris those unfortunate to dwell in the Undercity feared these deformed, mindless mutants which could transmit a namesake plague" POV, perhaps split into two sentences also.
    • Refer to beings by last names.
    • Did Gryph get captured when he fell? If so, mention that rather than springing it on the reader later.
    • Context on the people in the Moomo Williwaw who saved them.
    • Context on the Uhumele. Is it a pirate vessel?
    • Can we get a better quote for P&T?
    • Pretty good. Chack Jadson (Talk) 12:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
  3. Four Dot
    • "Despite Morne's disdain for their company, Carrick and Hierogryph accompanied her as she continued to navigtate the Undercity and engaged in conversation where Morne soon learned Carrick's identity." - This doesn't read well, and needs to be rephrased.
    • "Therefore, since she believed that Luke was a Jedi (but not yet), she proceeded to attack him." - The "but not yet" thing doesn't quite work.
    • "Celeste is a name derived from the word caelestis of Latin origin, meaning "heavenly"." But it's a real name. So that's kinda irrelevant. Thefourdotelipsis 09:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
  4. BTS could be greatly expanded with information from John Jackson Miller's site, farawaypress.com. Some links: [1] [2] [3] (The site's back up now, so I've edited this accordingly.) - Lord Hydronium 10:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Remove nomination (Inquisitorius vote only)

  1. Inqvote Not going anywhere fast. Graestan(Talk) 14:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote I think it would be advisable for the author to wait until Legacy: Vector is completed, put some effort into ironing out the wrinkles, and return to FAN in a few months when he or she has more time to fix objections, and I'm confident it will eventually pass then. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote It would indeed seem appropriate to wait until the completion of this character's biographical development to FAN this article, for the sake of stability. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Deadtastic. Deadaroo. Deadtacular. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Cull Tremayne 20:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

  • I think you should wait until Vector's completion before making this a FA. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 21:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
    • No, there have been some articles that have been made into FA's while the article still had planned appearances. DC 01:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Now that the next issue of Vector is out today, I think you should update it if you have it. Just don't forget to add that there are spoilers in the article here. DC 17:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I had hoped that this would not be the case, but school has taken up much more time than I thought it would so, until the winter break, I will not be able to make any further additions to this page or Wookiepedia. However, I will leave this nomination up for now in case someone else would like to take charge and I will attempt to return to the article in December which, as some have said, may work for the best since all issues of Vector should be out by then. Thank you everyone for all your own contributions for me and the article. See you in December! Ajeanette 27 September 2008