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Blockade of the Hydian Way
- Nominated by: Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 23:43, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Is it strange that being able to nominate again makes me feel like a badass?
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CC7567 (talk) 07:12, February 15, 2010 (UTC)- Good show.—Tommy 9281
(Mechno-chair) 22:39, February 15, 2010 (UTC) - Jedi Kasra (comlink) 03:40, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Very well done. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 17:24, March 2, 2010 (UTC)- Graestan(Talk) 14:50, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- --Eyrezer 03:30, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Under the condition that it remains updated once The Old Republic comes out. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 04:01, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
- The Inqs are obviously too lazy to archive this...-- 1358 (Talk) 06:39, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
Object
- Attack of the Clone
Can we get a time marker at the very beginning of the intro, as one would be helpful to understanding the article better?- Try it out. If it's not specific enough I can put the exact year, but I figured I'd try this out.
- The time marker was fine, but I actually meant something to do with the length (i.e. "year-long" or whatever it was) if it's relevant. Sorry for not being clear enough. CC7567 (talk) 06:57, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the length of the blockade is never really specified in the timeline. It starts in 3,661 BBY and ends in 3,660 BBY, but that means it could either have lasted a year or a few months that happened to fall on the tail end of 3,661 and the very beginning of 3,660. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 07:06, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
- The time marker was fine, but I actually meant something to do with the length (i.e. "year-long" or whatever it was) if it's relevant. Sorry for not being clear enough. CC7567 (talk) 06:57, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Try it out. If it's not specific enough I can put the exact year, but I figured I'd try this out.
Can the excessive "following"s be reworded in the intro?- Done.
"freighters worth of supplies": please check this; I'm not sure what you mean.- Woopsie. Fixed.
"'She did not involve the Republic military or government in her plan; however, she likely would have failed were it not for the intervention of the Republic Navy." Please clarify the inclusion of the second part, as it currently appears as speculation.- Done.
- Good otherwise. CC7567 (talk) 23:52, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Haha, during your copy-edit you put in a "Vizsla" instead of "Visz". Mind elsewhere? :P Thanks for the review. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 06:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Just one thing. Your infobox has the smugglers, Jedi, and Republic all under the same forces, but the article makes no mention of them cooperating, especially the Jedi and the smugglers. Shouldn't it then be that each faction falls under it's own section in the box? Otherwise, very refreshing read.—Tommy 9281 (Mechno-chair) 07:12, February 15, 2010 (UTC)- You make an interesting point, but the way I interpreted the timelines was that both the Jedi Order and the smugglers were working on behalf of Republic interests. The Jedi were in it for duty and the smugglers were in it for personal gain, and although they didn't coordinate efforts, the Republic and smugglers fought alongside each other in that final battle, and were never opponents. I was under the impression that three-way battle boxes were for a kind of free-for-all situation. Let me know what you think, and thanks for the read! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 08:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Well, you could either rework several parts so that the reader knows that the smugglers and the Jedi were operating on behalf of the Republic. We already know that the Jedi and Republic are on the same side, but the way it is now gives the reader (at least me) the impression that the smugglers weren't working with the Jedi, but engaged in their own offensive against the Sith.—Tommy 9281 (Mechno-chair) 16:16, February 15, 2010 (UTC)- That is true, the smugglers and Jedi never worked together. However, both were combating the Mandalorians on behalf of the Republic. The Jedi did it as an organization within the Republic while the smugglers did it as allies of the Republic. How would you like to see that made clearer in the article? I tried to fix it up in the infobox a bit. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 22:03, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I don't really want you to change anything in the article because it is very-well written as it is. I'd prefer that you place the smugglers in their own section of the infobox, as I feel that that would clear up any confusion that might arise from the reader. Example: in the Nagai-Tof War, the Nagai started out as allies of the Empire, but later joined forces with the Alliance of Free Planets. Regardless of the various partnerships, the article's infobox shows the different factions separately, mainly because while they assisted each other for a common goal, they all had their own adgendas for wanting to end the Tof threat. So too it was with the smugglers and the Republic/Jedi, as far as I understand from your article. Make sense?—Tommy 9281 (Mechno-chair) 22:27, February 15, 2010 (UTC)- Yes, it does now. The example helps a lot. The infobox has been adjusted accordingly. Thanks for the review and help! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 22:36, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
- That is true, the smugglers and Jedi never worked together. However, both were combating the Mandalorians on behalf of the Republic. The Jedi did it as an organization within the Republic while the smugglers did it as allies of the Republic. How would you like to see that made clearer in the article? I tried to fix it up in the infobox a bit. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 22:03, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
- You make an interesting point, but the way I interpreted the timelines was that both the Jedi Order and the smugglers were working on behalf of Republic interests. The Jedi were in it for duty and the smugglers were in it for personal gain, and although they didn't coordinate efforts, the Republic and smugglers fought alongside each other in that final battle, and were never opponents. I was under the impression that three-way battle boxes were for a kind of free-for-all situation. Let me know what you think, and thanks for the read! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 08:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
- The Grand Master
Was the "Jedi strike force" a single organized strike team (if so, is there enough info for a stub)? Or is this known? Also, I think it can be made clearer in the body that they were all killed (right now, you just say they were "soundly defeated", but in the infobox you list the entire strike force as a casualty).- It does appear to be a single organized team, but I don't know that there would be enough info for a stub. All that's really said on the matter was that the Jedi organized a strike force that was completely destroyed. As for the "soundly defeated" part, it's been addressed.
Can you make an article for the final battle of the blockade? Or do you think such an article would be necessary (if so, your reasoning, please)?- The reason I never made an article for the final battle was because it's not really a different event. It wasn't a separate occurance from the blockade, but rather, part of it. In the same way duel articles are part of overall battle articles, I suppose. It's a more isolated conflict, but not a separate one. I don't know if that reasoning makes sense to everyone, but that's kind of what I was going by.
- That's fair enough. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 17:24, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
- That's fair enough. Jonjedigrandmaster
- The reason I never made an article for the final battle was because it's not really a different event. It wasn't a separate occurance from the blockade, but rather, part of it. In the same way duel articles are part of overall battle articles, I suppose. It's a more isolated conflict, but not a separate one. I don't know if that reasoning makes sense to everyone, but that's kind of what I was going by.
Could you use something less POVish than "unimaginable"?- I'm gonna go with "incredible," because the idea expressed in the video is that even she couldn't believe how much money she got.
- Great work. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 22:34, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the review. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 05:27, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
The intro is enormous, given the size of the article. It reads like an article unto itself. Please summarize more. Graestan(Talk) 17:33, March 3, 2010 (UTC)- Done. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 00:12, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
No mention of the date in the intro. Graestan(Talk) 01:25, March 8, 2010 (UTC)- Having the exact year in the intro in not in anyway part of any FA rules or guidelines. There is, however, a time marker in the intro, and I've also added the exact date in the body. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 01:58, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Eh, I found a place for it. It's in there now. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 04:10, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Having the exact year in the intro in not in anyway part of any FA rules or guidelines. There is, however, a time marker in the intro, and I've also added the exact date in the body. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 01:58, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
Comments Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 04:01, March 21, 2010 (UTC)