[20:05] OOM 224: Welcome to EC #90
[20:05] OOM 224: notes as follows
[20:05] OOM 224: Kill Providence-class Carrier and Star Wars: Imperial Commando, spare all other old. Probe anything new that Luca doesn't save. I really feel that the nomination limit vote should be done as a CT, especially since not everyone in the Senate Hall agreed with the concept. My vote goes to OOM. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:36, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:05] OOM 224: Kill Providence-class Carrier, Star Wars: Imperial Commando
Keep the rest of the old stuff
Probe Royal Crusader
Spare the rest of the new stuff
Give my Luca my vote for anything else. Imperators II(Talk) 08:35, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:05] OOM 224: Notes per Imp and Ayre
Vote goes to Fan Commander Code-8 Hello There! 09:17, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:05] OOM 224: Notes per CC, voted goes to Shay. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:05] OOM 224: old stuff!
[20:06] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coruscant_Security_Special_Investigation_Panel
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401390/cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Coruscant_Security_Special_Investigation_Panel
[20:06] OOM 224: issue has been addressed
[20:06] OOM 224: Keep
[20:06] Fan26: keep
[20:06] LucaRoR: Keep
[20:06] Shayanomer: keep
[20:06] OOM 224: Coruscant Security Special Investigation Panel kept
[20:06] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Providence-class_Carrier
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401391/cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Providence-class_Carrier
[20:06] OOM 224: over the word count
[20:06] OOM 224: kill
[20:07] LucaRoR: Kill
[20:07] Fan26: kill
[20:07] Shayanomer: kill
[20:07] OOM 224: Providence killed
[20:07] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Imperial_Commando
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401394/cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Star_Wars:_Imperial_Commando_(third_review)
[20:07] OOM 224: that's a lot of reviews
[20:07] OOM 224: issues have all been addressed
[20:07] OOM 224: bar the word count issue
[20:07] OOM 224: kill
[20:07] LucaRoR: Kill
[20:07] Shayanomer: kill
[20:07] Fan26: kill
[20:07] OOM 224: Star Wars: Imperial Commando killed
[20:08] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rage_(Lancer-class)
[20:08] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401398/cur
[20:08] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Rage_(Lancer-class)
[20:08] OOM 224: issues have been dealt with
[20:08] OOM 224: keep
[20:08] LucaRoR: Keep
[20:08] Fan26: Keep it
[20:08] Shayanomer: keep
[20:08] OOM 224: Rage kept
[20:09] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Green/Aura
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401395/cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Green/Aura
[20:09] OOM 224: issues dealt with
[20:09] LucaRoR: Keep
[20:09] OOM 224: keep
[20:09] Fan26: keep
[20:09] Shayanomer: keep
[20:09] OOM 224: Green/Aura kept
[20:09] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Green/Besh
[20:09] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401396/cur
[20:10] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Green/Besh
[20:10] OOM 224: same with the other
[20:10] OOM 224: keep
[20:10] LucaRoR: Keep
[20:10] Fan26: keep
[20:10] Shayanomer: keep
[20:10] OOM 224: Green/Besh kept
[20:10] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tyrral
[20:10] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Diff/11401397/cur
[20:10] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Tyrral
[20:10] OOM 224: fixed
[20:10] OOM 224: keep
[20:10] Fan26: Keep
[20:10] LucaRoR: Keep
[20:11] Shayanomer: keep
[20:11] OOM 224: Tyrral kept
[20:11] OOM 224: onto the new
[20:11] OOM 224: Murr Danod - Galactic Campaign Guide says his name is translated to Murr species name, and surname translates to winemaker. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:02, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Fixed.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 17:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:11] OOM 224: spare
[20:11] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Murr_Danod
[20:11] Shayanomer: spare
[20:11] Fan26: spare
[20:11] LucaRoR: Spare
[20:11] OOM 224: Murr Danod spared
[20:11] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Royal_Crusader
[20:12] OOM 224: 170 words in body, with sectioning will go over the word count
Prima guide uses "Royal crusader," which I think should take precedence over the title given in Galactic Battlegrounds as that the game capitalizes absolutely everything Commander Code-8 Hello There! 12:57, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:12] OOM 224: probe
[20:12] Shayanomer: probe
[20:12] LucaRoR: Probe
[20:12] Fan26: probe
[20:12] OOM 224: Royal Crusader probed
[20:12] LucaRoR: I wish we could directly kill these
[20:12] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Surrel
[20:12] OOM 224: Youmay needed that links to Ralo Surrel.
{{TORcite}} required. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Both done. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno.png (Talk) 15:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:12]
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Wiki-Bot: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:TORcite
[20:12] Fan26: probe
[20:12] Fan26: wait spare
[20:12] LucaRoR: Spare
[20:12] OOM 224: spare :P
[20:12] Shayanomer: spare
[20:12] OOM 224: Surrel spared
[20:12] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Socorro_Freight
[20:12] OOM 224: Link to a Socorro disambiguation page.
Note shared name with Socorro in the body. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:12, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Both done. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno.png (Talk) 14:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:12] OOM 224: spare
[20:12] LucaRoR: Spare
[20:13] Fan26: spare
[20:13] Shayanomer: spare
[20:13] OOM 224: Socorro Freight spared
[20:13] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_on_the_Gnarls_Outpost
[20:13] OOM 224: Attack on the Gnarls Outpost — 165 words, requires sectioning. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:13] OOM 224: ugh
[20:13] OOM 224: 163 now. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno.png (Talk) 14:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[20:13] OOM 224: spare
[20:13] LucaRoR: Spare
[20:13] Shayanomer: spare
[20:13] Fan26: spare
[20:13] OOM 224: Attack on the Gnarls Outpost spared
[20:13] OOM 224: awesome, that's the new stuff
[20:13] OOM 224: checking bin now
[20:14] Fan26: i have three of mine I'm gonna probe when we're done with the bin
[20:14] OOM 224: okay, there's 9 articles requiring citations
[20:14] OOM 224: I say we just probe them all. I'll link them here
[20:14] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coruscant_Security_Force_Divisional_Headquarters_(ISB_technology_center)?t=20220513174351
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coruscant_Security_Force_incident_support_vessel?t=20220513174251
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Rirsack?t=20220513173641
[20:15] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lorik?t=20220512171827
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Thomquizzar_Naval_Base?t=20220512132419
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coruscant_Security_Force_Divisional_Headquarters_(Quadrant_A-89)?t=20220512132323
[20:15] OOM 224: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Briqui?t=20220512131707
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Zhin?t=20220512131641
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Pythar-class_Imperial_shuttlecraft?t=20220512131316
[20:15] OOM 224: Probe all
[20:15] LucaRoR: Ugh, TORcite
[20:15] LucaRoR: Probe
[20:15] OOM 224: heh
[20:15] Fan26: probe
[20:15] Shayanomer: probe all
[20:15] OOM 224: all 9 articles probed
[20:16] OOM 224: there's a couple needing updates, but they haven;'t reached the one month period yet
[20:16] Shayanomer: Assuming JMM will fix Loci Rosen
[20:16] OOM 224: yeah
[20:17] Fan26: ok i have three to probe
[20:17] OOM 224: awesome, the floor is yours
[20:18] Fan26: they're all SWTOR ones with the same issue, I wrote them believing the "crew skill" missions in question were faction-neutral but I recently learned back in the day some crew skills used to be exclusive to either the sith or republic
[20:18] Fan26: there's an archived version from the game files containing the old info
[20:18] Fan26: so I need to probe them so I can update/rewrite based on which faction actually did them
[20:19] Fan26: even though that stuff's no longer in the game it still counts as canonical info
[20:19] Fan26: that's the short of it, I won't bother y'all with TOR's usual brand of convoluted derangement any more 😛
[20:19] OOM 224: hmm, if you're going to fix them, I wonder if probing them is actually necessary
[20:20] Fan26: I assumed it would be, since it's an update
[20:20] Fan26: and also I'm having to go off an archived wepage from a third party site containing game files instead of the actual game
[20:21] OOM 224: I'm not sure if it's worth going through the formal process, tbh. If you can't fix them soon then that's fair, but otherwise maybe you could just list these articles just for the EC to keep a record of?
[20:21] Fan26: sure it's only three
[20:22] Fan26: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sord_Trunnel
[20:22] Fan26: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sord_Trunnel
[20:22] Fan26: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Sith_Empire_operative
[20:22] Fan26: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jocal_Four
[20:22] Fan26: I was gonna fix them soon, but I thought this was enough of an issue to warrant probing so I waited until today
[20:23] OOM 224: yeah I mean we can probe them. I just think it's easier if you could just fix them directly rather than go through the paperwork
[20:24] Fan26: I don't mind the paperwork either way since I think it's me this month:P but if it's not necessary to probe them I won't make everyone sit through that
[20:24] Fan26: If we don't need to probe them then that's all I had
[20:25] OOM 224: cool, yeah just think it's a bit redundant to go through the formalities
[20:25] Fan26: 👍
[20:25] OOM 224: okay so for discussion items, it's you again Fan :P
[20:25] OOM 224: but Ayre said it's best to just CT it
[20:26] OOM 224: ecks says we can come to an EC agreement first, so do we want to just vote support on it here and then take it to a public vote?
[20:26] LucaRoR: Yeah
[20:26] Fan26: There's only four of us, but i think the EC was in agreement when Preem and I prompted the discussion a few weeks back
[20:26] Fan26: yeah I'm good with that
[20:26] OOM 224: yeah, may as well have a quick EC vote while we're here :P
[20:26] Fan26: gonna pull up that SH to refresh myself on what we specifically decided-8 noms?
[20:26] LucaRoR: 6 noms, IIRC
[20:27] Fan26: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:SH:Raising_the_cap_on_active_CANs?t=20220425141135
[20:27] Fan26: Oh yeah it was six I remember now
[20:27] OOM 224: yes
[20:27] Fan26: So, for the record and the sake of formality, I'm just gonna rehash what we know already
[20:27] Fan26: Our current rules limit everyone to four active nominations on the CAN page at any given time
[20:27] OOM 224: sure, go ahead
[20:28] Fan26: This proposed rule change would allow users, after four successful nominations, to have six nominations active on the page at any given time
[20:28] Fan26: That's all
[20:28] Fan26: Support
[20:28] OOM 224: support
[20:28] LucaRoR: I guess we'd still go first 5 and then 6?
[20:28] Shayanomer: What's wrong with 4 to 5, and then 5 to 6?
[20:29] OOM 224: I have no qualms either way
[20:29] Fan26: IIRC we settled on four to six when we all discussed this a few weeks ago
[20:29] Fan26: I wouldn't mind that as a restriction
[20:29] LucaRoR: I'd go 4 to 5 and 5 to 6 just for the sake of consistency
[20:29] OOM 224: if we have reservations about 6 we can all just agree on 5 for now
[20:29] Shayanomer: Yes
[20:29] Fan26: I thought going from for four to six was what we decided on though
[20:29] Fan26: Yeah that's fair
[20:29] OOM 224: right
[20:30] Fan26: So, four to five then five to six?
[20:30] Shayanomer: Should clarify, we mean allowing 5 CANs after 4 passed, then 6 after 5 passed
[20:30] LucaRoR: Yep
[20:30] LucaRoR: Support
[20:30] Fan26: Yes that's what I mean
[20:30] OOM 224: so, vote to raise the number of active CANs from each user to 5:
[20:30] OOM 224: Support
[20:30] LucaRoR: Support
[20:30] Fan26: once they have four yeah
[20:30] Fan26: support
[20:30] Shayanomer: support
[20:30] OOM 224: yeah, adding on to the existing progression of active noms and all that
[20:31] OOM 224: awesome, vote passes
[20:31] OOM 224: so anything else from anyone while we're still here?
[20:31] LucaRoR: Yep, just a little thing
[20:31] Fan26: wait did we vote on four to five and then five noms to six noms, or just four noms to five noms?
[20:31] OOM 224: the latter
[20:31] OOM 224: we can just do 5 to 6 next meeting or something
[20:32] Fan26: Huh, ok
[20:32] LucaRoR: I'm confused now, lol
[20:32] LucaRoR: But anyway, sounds good
[20:32] OOM 224: uh, I mean we all agreed on four to five anyway, so five to six we can just do later on
[20:33] OOM 224: go ahead, Luca
[20:33] Fan26: It feels a little odd to slow it down that much personally, but that's fine so I won't hold up the meeting
[20:33] Fan26: apologies
[20:33] OOM 224: the magic of consensus :P
[20:34] LucaRoR: It's just a formality, but I would like to propose adding "or on Discord" next to "on IRC" in the bylaws and instructions
[20:34] OOM 224: yeah that makes sense
[20:34] Fan26: Yeah we should mention discord
[20:34] Fan26: honestly, I'd be fine with putting discord first tbh
[20:34] Fan26: I'm not in favour of scrapping IRC entirely but to be honest discord is the primary chat for the Wook
[20:35] OOM 224: eh, the order doesn't really make a difference
[20:35] Fan26: so it would make sense for it to take precedence over IRC
[20:35] OOM 224: sure I'd be fine with that
[20:35] Fan26: is that okay Luca?
[20:35] LucaRoR: Sure
[20:35] OOM 224: I mean, ecks might be a little annoyed by that, but otherwise makes no difference.
[20:36] OOM 224: so, vote to change instances of "IRC" in the bylaws to "Discord or IRC":
[20:36] OOM 224: support
[20:36] LucaRoR: Support
[20:36] Fan26: Support
[20:37] OOM 224: (the intructions don't really need to be voted upon, btw, it's just the byaws)
[20:37] JediMasterMacaroni: Support
[20:37] LucaRoR: Why not, though?
[20:37] Fan26: oh hullo JMM! 😛
[20:38] OOM 224: instructions != rules :P
[20:38] OOM 224: nice, vote passes
[20:38] LucaRoR: Fair
[20:38] OOM 224: so, aaanything else? :P
[20:38] Fan26: nothing ehre
[20:38] Fan26: *nothing here
[20:39] LucaRoR: Nothing else from me
[20:39] OOM 224: okay
[20:39] OOM 224: nothing from the others, and silence is compliance
[20:39] OOM 224: thanks for attending everyone
[20:39] OOM 224: meeting adjorned
[20:39] LucaRoR: Thanks for hosting!
[20:39] OOM 224: shit
[20:39] OOM 224: *adjourned
[20:39] Fan26: thanks for hosting OOM!
[20:40] Fan26: who is on paperwork and scheduling?
[20:40] LucaRoR: You :P
[20:40] Fan26: thought so 😛
[20:40] OOM 224: oh yeah, 'tis you :P
[20:40] OOM 224: I can grab the accursed log though :P
[20:40] Fan26: thank you:P