Dec 01 00:01:17 <QGJ>	Welcome everyone to the 61st edition of the EC Cup
Dec 01 00:01:33 <QGJ>	Per the Rules of the game, we kick-off with the old stuff
Dec 01 00:01:47 <QGJ>	Book of Hondo
Dec 01 00:01:53 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Book_of_Hondo
Dec 01 00:01:58 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Book_of_Hondo
Dec 01 00:02:04 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8591821
Dec 01 00:02:08 <QGJ>	No changes
Dec 01 00:02:09 <AnilSerifoglu>	Kill
Dec 01 00:02:09 <QGJ>	Kill
Dec 01 00:02:13 <CorellianPremier>	burn it
Dec 01 00:02:25 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes kill
Dec 01 00:02:39 <Ayrehead>	Kill
Dec 01 00:02:40 *	Fan26 (49ab13d8@wookieepedia/Fan26) has joined
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Dec 01 00:03:02 <QGJ>	Hey Fan!
Dec 01 00:03:07 <Fan26>	Hey!
Dec 01 00:03:22 <QGJ>	The match has begun, and we are voting on Book of Hondo
Dec 01 00:03:38 <Fan26>	Ah,
Dec 01 00:03:51 <Fan26>	Kill it
Dec 01 00:04:02 <QGJ>	Book of Hondo is sent-off
Dec 01 00:04:06 <QGJ>	Next up 
Dec 01 00:04:13 <QGJ>	Courataine
Dec 01 00:04:21 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Courataine
Dec 01 00:04:28 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Courataine
Dec 01 00:04:32 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8591826
Dec 01 00:04:35 <QGJ>	No changes
Dec 01 00:04:37 <AnilSerifoglu>	Kill
Dec 01 00:04:37 <QGJ>	Kill
Dec 01 00:04:38 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes kill
Dec 01 00:04:47 <CorellianPremier>	yep, kill
Dec 01 00:04:51 <Fan26>	kill
Dec 01 00:05:00 <Ayrehead>	Kill
Dec 01 00:05:13 <QGJ>	Courataine joins Book of Hondo off the pitch
Dec 01 00:05:19 <QGJ>	Next up
Dec 01 00:05:34 <QGJ>	Unidentified deputy minister of trade 
Dec 01 00:05:41 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_deputy_minister_of_trade
Dec 01 00:05:49 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Unidentified_deputy_minister_of_trade
Dec 01 00:05:53 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8591832
Dec 01 00:06:05 <AnilSerifoglu>	Keep
Dec 01 00:06:09 <QGJ>	Yours truly has taken the liberty to fix this
Dec 01 00:06:15 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes keep
Dec 01 00:06:15 <QGJ>	I have no other issues with this
Dec 01 00:06:22 <CorellianPremier>	ok keep
Dec 01 00:06:35 <Fan26>	keep
Dec 01 00:06:38 <Ayrehead>	Keep
Dec 01 00:07:05 <QGJ>	The deputy minister keeps her position
Dec 01 00:07:19 <QGJ>	It's half-time and we're moving on to the new stuff
Dec 01 00:07:28 <QGJ>	Chad — Update needed per Galaxy's Edge: Black Spire, Star Wars: Geektionary: The Galaxy from A - Z, and Ultimate Star Wars, New Edition. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:40, November 6, 2019 (UTC)
Dec 01 00:07:38 <QGJ>	Probe
Dec 01 00:07:46 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe
Dec 01 00:07:55 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Probe
Dec 01 00:08:04 <Ayrehead>	Probe
Dec 01 00:08:08 <Fan26>	probe it
Dec 01 00:08:09 <CorellianPremier>	Probe
Dec 01 00:08:31 <QGJ>	Chad is issued a warning and gets probed
Dec 01 00:08:39 <QGJ>	Rakata Prime — these edits need to be cleaned up. Imperators II(Talk) 10:27, November 25, 2019 (UTC)
Dec 01 00:08:47 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?title=Rakata_Prime&diff=8657969&oldid=8618341
Dec 01 00:08:59 <AnilSerifoglu>	Okay, this is one of my babies. Imperators and I believe it's in good shape now, but it has almost nothing to do with the original article
Dec 01 00:09:09 <AnilSerifoglu>	I mean, I'm ok if you want to redux this
Dec 01 00:09:45 <Ayrehead>	After all the stuff with Lehon I think that might be best
Dec 01 00:10:03 <AnilSerifoglu>	Redux, then
Dec 01 00:10:07 <QGJ>	Agreed, there has been a big update
Dec 01 00:10:09 <Ayrehead>	Redux
Dec 01 00:10:10 <QGJ>	Redux
Dec 01 00:10:15 <Fan26>	Redux
Dec 01 00:10:16 <CorellianPremier>	I agree, let's redux
Dec 01 00:10:36 <QGJ>	Rakata Prime is sent to Redux
Dec 01 00:10:57 <QGJ>	Looking at the maintenance bin, I've found...
Dec 01 00:11:08 <QGJ>	Seven-string hallikset
Dec 01 00:11:18 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Seven-string_hallikset
Dec 01 00:11:18 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe
Dec 01 00:11:23 <Ayrehead>	Oh I need to update this but we should probe it for now
Dec 01 00:11:23 <QGJ>	Needs an update
Dec 01 00:11:24 <Ayrehead>	Probe
Dec 01 00:11:26 <QGJ>	probe
Dec 01 00:11:38 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imp votes Probe
Dec 01 00:11:39 <Fan26>	yeah, Probe
Dec 01 00:11:55 <QGJ>	hallikset probed
Dec 01 00:11:55 <CorellianPremier>	probe
Dec 01 00:12:09 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talzzi
Dec 01 00:12:20 <QGJ>	Needs an update as well
Dec 01 00:12:21 <Ayrehead>	Probe
Dec 01 00:12:22 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe
Dec 01 00:12:25 <QGJ>	Probe
Dec 01 00:12:30 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imp says Probe
Dec 01 00:12:42 <CorellianPremier>	probe
Dec 01 00:12:54 <Fan26>	probe
Dec 01 00:13:02 <QGJ>	Talzzi probed
Dec 01 00:13:15 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Trandoshan_ale
Dec 01 00:13:21 <QGJ>	Update needed
Dec 01 00:13:25 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe
Dec 01 00:13:27 <Ayrehead>	Again another one I need to get
Dec 01 00:13:28 <Ayrehead>	Probe
Dec 01 00:13:33 <Fan26>	probe
Dec 01 00:13:34 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Probe
Dec 01 00:13:35 <QGJ>	Also, the main image quality is not great
Dec 01 00:13:44 <AnilSerifoglu>	Agreed
Dec 01 00:13:57 <CorellianPremier>	probe
Dec 01 00:14:01 <QGJ>	Trandoshan ale probed
Dec 01 00:14:09 <QGJ>	Last one 
Dec 01 00:14:18 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Topato_stew
Dec 01 00:14:28 <QGJ>	Needs an update
Dec 01 00:14:29 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe
Dec 01 00:14:31 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Probe
Dec 01 00:14:33 <QGJ>	and fix the redlink
Dec 01 00:14:44 <Ayrehead>	Probe
Dec 01 00:14:55 <Fan26>	probe
Dec 01 00:14:59 <CorellianPremier>	probe
Dec 01 00:15:06 <QGJ>	Also will probably require subsectioning 
Dec 01 00:15:09 <QGJ>	Probe
Dec 01 00:15:21 <QGJ>	Topato stew probed
Dec 01 00:15:26 <QGJ>	Moving on to extra time
Dec 01 00:15:32 <QGJ>	AKA discussion items
Dec 01 00:15:38 <QGJ>	Anil, you have the floor
Dec 01 00:15:54 <AnilSerifoglu>	Thank you
Dec 01 00:16:46 <AnilSerifoglu>	Okay, what I propose is the same rule we have approved in the latest AC meeting. I'm going to explain it for anyone who isn't familiar with it
Dec 01 00:18:06 <AnilSerifoglu>	Recently, we have discussed that it would better if articles with less than 165 words go to CA, even if it passes 250 words with BTS
Dec 01 00:18:10 <AnilSerifoglu>	https://ibb.co/jDcPxHD
Dec 01 00:18:35 <AnilSerifoglu>	This flow chart should give you a better idea of what I'm talking about
Dec 01 00:18:58 <AnilSerifoglu>	The second section of the chart is nothing new
Dec 01 00:19:26 <AnilSerifoglu>	Aaand we have already passed that 165-word rule  about subsectioning:
Dec 01 00:19:37 <AnilSerifoglu>	"13…provide an introduction if it reaches 165 words, not counting the "Behind the scenes" section. Conversely, an article may not have an introduction if it is less than 165 words, not counting the "Behind the scenes" section."
Dec 01 00:20:47 <AnilSerifoglu>	So what I propose is this: Articles with less that 165 words in the body, meaning they don't have an intro and subsectioning per rule 13, are eligible for CA no matter what
Dec 01 00:21:08 <AnilSerifoglu>	Even if it has a long BTS section
Dec 01 00:21:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rakata_Prime
Dec 01 00:21:33 <AnilSerifoglu>	This article is a perfect example for this
Dec 01 00:22:05 <AnilSerifoglu>	Even though it's over 250, I believe it should go to CA, not GA
Dec 01 00:22:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	Floor, please
Dec 01 00:22:57 <Ayrehead>	I definitely support this
Dec 01 00:24:48 <QGJ>	Are current articles, which are mostly Bts, going to retain their current status?
Dec 01 00:24:48 <AnilSerifoglu>	Any other opinions?
Dec 01 00:25:21 <Fan26>	I have no problem with it
Dec 01 00:25:26 <AnilSerifoglu>	No, they should go to CA as well, in my opinion
Dec 01 00:25:29 <CorellianPremier>	Right, I think it makes perfect sense
Dec 01 00:26:03 <QGJ>	I think I have one candiate from one of my own articles
Dec 01 00:26:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	Which one is that?
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	The Battle of Khorm occurred during the Clone Wars between the Galactic Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems. Taking place at Khorm, the battle saw Republic Clone Commander CC-3636 lose his right eye in combat with the Confederate dark side warrior Asajj Ventress.
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Contents[hide]
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	History
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Behind the scenes
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Portrayal in Star Wars Legends
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Sources
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Notes and references
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	HistoryEdit
Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	The Battle of Khorm was fought during the Clone Wars between the Galactic Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems[6] at some point between 22 BBY and 21 BBY.[4] The Republic forces—commanded by Jedi General Anakin Skywalker and Clone Commander CC-3636, nicknamed "Wolffe"—and the Confederate troops, led by[5] the dark side assassin[7] Asajj Ventress, clashe
Dec 01 00:26:56 <QGJ>	Crap
Dec 01 00:27:00 <QGJ>	Copy paste derp
Dec 01 00:27:02 <QGJ>	I meant
Dec 01 00:27:07 <QGJ>	Battle of Khorm
Dec 01 00:27:16 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Khorm
Dec 01 00:27:28 <QGJ>	By my count, it's 147 words without the Bts
Dec 01 00:27:46 <Toprawa>	Support, if you're still on that vote (Sorry to interrupt)
Dec 01 00:28:18 <AnilSerifoglu>	Well, with this new rule, it needs to be either CAnomed, or probed by AC
Dec 01 00:28:46 <QGJ>	Understood
Dec 01 00:29:11 <QGJ>	Well, I don't really mind either way. I support as well
Dec 01 00:29:23 <Fan26>	Support
Dec 01 00:29:27 <AnilSerifoglu>	Support
Dec 01 00:29:33 <Ayrehead>	Support
Dec 01 00:29:36 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Support
Dec 01 00:29:46 <CorellianPremier>	~support
Dec 01 00:30:08 <QGJ>	Anil's proposal is officially approved
Dec 01 00:30:26 <QGJ>	Anyone else have something?
Dec 01 00:30:57 <Fan26>	Nothing here
Dec 01 00:31:01 <AnilSerifoglu>	That's it from me
Dec 01 00:31:23 <CorellianPremier>	I'm good
Dec 01 00:32:07 <Ayrehead>	Nope
Dec 01 00:32:16 <QGJ>	Okay, then we are done
Dec 01 00:32:26 <QGJ>	Fred does the paperwork and schedules next meeting
Dec 01 00:32:45 <QGJ>	Thank you for participating in the 61st EC Cup
Dec 01 00:32:48 <AnilSerifoglu>	Thanks for hosting, QGJ!
Dec 01 00:32:49 <Ayrehead>	Thanks for hosting it QGJ!
Dec 01 00:32:49 <Fan26>	Thanks for hosting!
Dec 01 00:32:52 <QGJ>	You're all winners!
Dec 01 00:32:56 <CorellianPremier>	yep, thanks.
Dec 01 00:32:56 <QGJ>	https://imgur.com/gallery/9H8E4/comment/661382237
Dec 01 00:33:06 <Ayrehead>	See you all later