Feb 17 23:15:09 <Ayrehead02> Alright well let's begin with last meeting's articles
Feb 17 23:15:13 <Ayrehead02> First is the AT-PT
Feb 17 23:15:17 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/AT-PT
Feb 17 23:15:22 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048611
Feb 17 23:15:27 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/AT-PT
Feb 17 23:15:38 <Imperators> it almost escaped its fate
Feb 17 23:15:49 <Ayrehead02> Cwedin addressed all previous objections, but Imperators has just added new ones
Feb 17 23:16:07 <Ayrehead02> Extend
Feb 17 23:16:08 <QGJ> Extend
Feb 17 23:16:12 <Corellianpremier> yep, extend
Feb 17 23:16:14 <AnilSerifoglu> Extend
Feb 17 23:16:20 <Imperators> extend
Feb 17 23:16:23 <ecks> e
Feb 17 23:16:25 <Tommy-Macaroni> Extend
Feb 17 23:17:14 <Ayrehead02> Alright AT-PT extended
Feb 17 23:17:35 <Ayrehead02> Next up is Holowan
Feb 17 23:17:35 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Holowan_Laboratories
Feb 17 23:17:40 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048621
Feb 17 23:17:46 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Holowan_Laboratories
Feb 17 23:17:52 <Ayrehead02> No changes
Feb 17 23:17:54 <Tommy-Macaroni> Kill
Feb 17 23:17:56 <Ayrehead02> Kill
Feb 17 23:17:57 <QGJ> kill
Feb 17 23:17:57 <AnilSerifoglu> Kill
Feb 17 23:17:59 <Imperators> kill
Feb 17 23:18:04 <ecks> k
Feb 17 23:18:05 <Imperators> murder by IG-88
Feb 17 23:18:05 <Corellianpremier> Kill
Feb 17 23:18:52 <Ayrehead02> Alright, Holowan killed
Feb 17 23:19:14 <Ayrehead02> Also Tope I know it's been a while since you attended EC but voting is generally encouraged :P
Feb 17 23:19:24 <Imperators> don't jinx it
Feb 17 23:19:33 <Toprawa> It's best to assume I'm not going to participate, so don't let me hold you up :P
Feb 17 23:19:42 <Ayrehead02> Will do
Feb 17 23:19:42 <ecks> ^
Feb 17 23:19:46 <Ayrehead02> Alright next up is Gand
Feb 17 23:19:46 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gand_(planet)
Feb 17 23:19:50 <ecks> hard to play GTA Online and participate
Feb 17 23:19:50 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048636
Feb 17 23:19:55 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Gand_(planet)
Feb 17 23:20:42 <Imperators> what, between killing pedestrians you can't kill articles, too?
Feb 17 23:20:47 <Imperators> no changes
Feb 17 23:20:47 <Ayrehead02> No update from what I can tell
Feb 17 23:20:49 <Imperators> astrokill
Feb 17 23:20:50 <AnilSerifoglu> Kill
Feb 17 23:20:51 <Tommy-Macaroni> Kill
Feb 17 23:20:51 <QGJ> kill
Feb 17 23:20:52 <Ayrehead02> Kill
Feb 17 23:21:09 <Corellianpremier> kill
Feb 17 23:21:16 <Ayrehead02> Gand killed
Feb 17 23:21:18 <Tommy-Macaroni> Wasted
Feb 17 23:21:25 <Ayrehead02> Finally from the old stuff is Storm Commando
Feb 17 23:21:26 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Storm_Commando
Feb 17 23:21:30 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048652
Feb 17 23:21:33 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Storm_Commando
Feb 17 23:21:39 <Ayrehead02> No change
Feb 17 23:21:40 <Ayrehead02> Kill
Feb 17 23:21:42 <Tommy-Macaroni> Kill
Feb 17 23:21:42 <AnilSerifoglu> Kill
Feb 17 23:21:43 <QGJ> kill
Feb 17 23:21:46 <Corellianpremier> kill
Feb 17 23:22:01 <Imperators> storm
Feb 17 23:22:03 <Imperators> kill
Feb 17 23:22:25 <Ayrehead02> Alright Storm Commando killed
Feb 17 23:22:37 <Ayrehead02> Onto the new
Feb 17 23:22:44 <Ayrehead02> And we start with one of my own babies
Feb 17 23:22:52 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Redsprout
Feb 17 23:22:55 <Imperators> probe all Ayrehead's babies
Feb 17 23:23:02 <Ayrehead02> Redsprout — year was sourced to the SH post, which was inadequate. I've replaced it with a Fact tag. It should be either given a good ref or the year should be removed. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 21:42, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:23:02 <Ayrehead02> Provided a new date ref. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:36, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:23:43 <QGJ> I believe Zare Leonis and Ezra both need context within that ref
Feb 17 23:24:04 <Imperators> meh
Feb 17 23:24:28 <Ayrehead02> I didn't think that stuff mentioned only in references needed context
Feb 17 23:24:33 <Imperators> I don't actually think their mention is necessary at all
Feb 17 23:24:40 <Ayrehead02> But if everyone disagrees it's easy enough to add
Feb 17 23:25:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah that's not necessary really, its only a ref and they have nothing to do with the subject
Feb 17 23:25:13 <AnilSerifoglu> ^
Feb 17 23:25:24 <Ayrehead02> Do people want me to remove their mention all together?
Feb 17 23:25:35 <Imperators> I say keep as is.
Feb 17 23:25:44 <Tommy-Macaroni> Honestly I'm fine with how it currently is
Feb 17 23:25:45 <Ayrehead02> Works for me
Feb 17 23:25:55 <Tommy-Macaroni> Spare
Feb 17 23:25:56 <Corellianpremier> Exactly
Feb 17 23:25:59 <Ayrehead02> Spare
Feb 17 23:26:02 <AnilSerifoglu> Spare
Feb 17 23:26:02 <Imperators> spare
Feb 17 23:26:02 <Corellianpremier> Spare
Feb 17 23:26:03 <QGJ> spare
Feb 17 23:26:17 <Ayrehead02> Alright then, Redsprout spared
Feb 17 23:26:32 <Ayrehead02> Next up is Vaux
Feb 17 23:26:33 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vaux
Feb 17 23:26:44 <Ayrehead02> ditto for this. We should also use the BBY/ABY system if we do keep the year. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 21:49, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:26:44 <Ayrehead02> Adjusted - I removed the full date. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 04:07, February 14, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:26:44 <Ayrehead02> Can the year not be inferred from other sources such as Galactic Atlas? As it is, the timeframe provided in the article is too vague and should provide a range of years, at least.
Feb 17 23:27:04 <Ayrehead02> The last comment was Imperators
Feb 17 23:27:35 <Corellianpremier> I did go in and add the 4 BBY date and associated ref.
Feb 17 23:28:40 <Ayrehead02> Do we have nothing dated beyond Siege of Lothal
Feb 17 23:28:48 <Tommy-Macaroni> I think you could say between 4 and 3 BBY, as the https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_on_Phoenix_Squadron_(3_BBY)#cite_note-Chronology_Note-2 is 3 BBY
Feb 17 23:29:00 <Tommy-Macaroni> And blood sisters is before the forgotten droid
Feb 17 23:29:00 <Ayrehead02> Yeah that'd work for me
Feb 17 23:29:23 <QGJ> same
Feb 17 23:29:27 <Imperators> Siege of Lothal apparently should be in italics in the ref
Feb 17 23:29:49 <Tommy-Macaroni> I also don't think you really need to mention the specific event of the siege really, nor the second season
Feb 17 23:30:12 <AnilSerifoglu> and the quotation marks should be after commas in BTS
Feb 17 23:30:32 <Imperators> shall we probe this?
Feb 17 23:30:48 <Ayrehead02> I think that'd be sensible
Feb 17 23:30:52 <Tommy-Macaroni> I say probe
Feb 17 23:30:54 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:30:56 <Ayrehead02> Probe
Feb 17 23:30:56 <QGJ> Agreed
Feb 17 23:30:57 <QGJ> probe
Feb 17 23:31:00 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:31:12 <Corellianpremier> ok probe
Feb 17 23:31:26 <Ayrehead02> You should easily be able to save it by next meeting CP
Feb 17 23:31:34 <Ayrehead02> Vaux probed
Feb 17 23:31:50 <Ayrehead02> Next up is
Feb 17 23:31:52 <Ayrehead02> Well this:
Feb 17 23:31:53 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/(Sharp_keening_at_85_cycles,_followed_by_five_atonal_mandible_clicks)
Feb 17 23:32:01 <Ayrehead02> HolonetNews articles provide GRS dates. A ref note needs to be added, explaining the conversion to 22 BBY. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:07, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:32:01 <Ayrehead02> Ref note added. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:11, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:32:01 <Ayrehead02> The ref note should just pipelink here instead of this article spelling out the actual reasoning behind the date conversion. Imperators II(Talk) 19:03, February 17, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:32:19 <Imperators> this is the link https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:YearMathGRS
Feb 17 23:32:22 <QGJ> Ah, what a lovely name. Just rolls of the tongue :p
Feb 17 23:33:10 <Tommy-Macaroni> Can the full release date be sourced to ref 1?
Feb 17 23:33:12 <Imperators> there are examples of recent status articles out there that do this
Feb 17 23:33:55 <Tommy-Macaroni> Remove the 22 BBY image caption link too please
Feb 17 23:34:24 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Feb 17 23:34:31 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:34:35 <QGJ> probe
Feb 17 23:34:38 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:34:38 <Ayrehead02> Probe
Feb 17 23:34:40 <Corellianpremier> yep probe
Feb 17 23:34:49 <Ayrehead02> Alright, that article was probed
Feb 17 23:35:08 <Imperators> what a cop-out, Ayre :P
Feb 17 23:35:09 <Ayrehead02> Next up AF-27
Feb 17 23:35:10 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/AF-27
Feb 17 23:35:23 <Ayrehead02> Refs 1 and 3 need further extrapolation.
Feb 17 23:35:23 <Ayrehead02> Double refs in the Bts
Feb 17 23:35:23 <Ayrehead02> Last sentence of the Bts is unneccessary. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:07, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:35:31 <QGJ> I meant ref 4 here, btw
Feb 17 23:35:43 <QGJ> The 3 ABY date
Feb 17 23:35:46 <Ayrehead02> Oh I was going to say I wasn't sure what was wrong with ref 3
Feb 17 23:36:16 <Ayrehead02> Probe
Feb 17 23:36:21 <QGJ> probe
Feb 17 23:36:24 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:36:30 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:36:34 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Feb 17 23:36:39 <ecks> p
Feb 17 23:37:08 <Ayrehead02> AF-27 probed
Feb 17 23:37:24 <Ayrehead02> Next is Milos Brejik
Feb 17 23:37:25 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Milos_Brejik
Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02> Looking at the entry, I do not believe the 3956 BBY can be sourced directly to it.
Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02> Added a new reference. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02> Redirect.
Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02> Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02> Unsourced BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:37:34 <Ayrehead02> Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:37:58 <Ayrehead02> Apparently I can improve the date ref according to Imperators, which I'm happy to do immediately after the meeting
Feb 17 23:38:14 <Imperators> genre for TOR, pls
Feb 17 23:38:15 <Tommy-Macaroni> The first sentence is currently sourced to the date note
Feb 17 23:38:33 <Tommy-Macaroni> *first bits of info
Feb 17 23:38:48 <Imperators> yeah
Feb 17 23:39:00 <Ayrehead02> I'm happy to fix both of those as well
Feb 17 23:39:25 <Ayrehead02> But we can just probe, just might save someone paperwork
Feb 17 23:39:31 <Imperators> "there are similarities" - I'd like to see this specified
Feb 17 23:39:39 <Tommy-Macaroni> Okay then, probe
Feb 17 23:39:44 <Corellianpremier> probe
Feb 17 23:39:44 <Imperators> as in, replace it with more specifics
Feb 17 23:39:46 <Ayrehead02> Sure, Probe
Feb 17 23:39:48 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:39:49 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:39:51 <QGJ> probe
Feb 17 23:39:58 <Ayrehead02> Milos Brejik probed
Feb 17 23:40:24 <Ayrehead02> Next up another of mine: Aarsix
Feb 17 23:40:25 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aarsix
Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02> Unsourced BTS.
Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02> Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02> The source should use the new Template:ID instead of Template:C.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02> Switched. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:40:55 <Imperators> I'd like to see MMORPG spelled out
Feb 17 23:41:04 <Ayrehead02> Sure that's easy enough
Feb 17 23:41:05 <Imperators> is the third sentence of BTS really necessary?
Feb 17 23:41:28 <QGJ> We usually do point out spelling mistakes in the Bts
Feb 17 23:41:31 <Imperators> we should be able to get a year in there
Feb 17 23:41:42 <Imperators> wrong sentence, QGJ
Feb 17 23:41:43 <Ayrehead02> For the prima guide?
Feb 17 23:41:47 <Imperators> I'm thinking the species one
Feb 17 23:41:54 <Imperators> What species he belongs to is not visible due to his armor.
Feb 17 23:41:55 <Ayrehead02> Oh the third sentence can go
Feb 17 23:42:00 <QGJ> Oh, my bad
Feb 17 23:42:06 <QGJ> Its late :p
Feb 17 23:42:28 <QGJ> Yeah that one is unnecessary
Feb 17 23:42:28 <Imperators> are you going to fix all this, Ayre?
Feb 17 23:42:32 <Ayrehead02> I am indeed
Feb 17 23:42:34 <Imperators> the year included
Feb 17 23:42:38 <Imperators> alright, spare then
Feb 17 23:42:42 <Ayrehead02> I can do it now but I didn't want to hold up the meeting
Feb 17 23:42:45 <Ayrehead02> Spare
Feb 17 23:42:52 <QGJ> Spare, on the condition that Ayre fixes it
Feb 17 23:42:54 <AnilSerifoglu> Spare
Feb 17 23:43:12 <Tommy-Macaroni> Spare then
Feb 17 23:43:14 <Corellianpremier> ok spare
Feb 17 23:43:30 <Ayrehead02> Alright, Aarsix spared
Feb 17 23:43:46 <Ayrehead02> Next up is Abryl
Feb 17 23:43:46 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Abryl
Feb 17 23:44:01 <Ayrehead02> Abryl
Feb 17 23:44:01 <Ayrehead02> I'm pretty sure all of the vendors had at least one quote, so a quote should be added to the article.
Feb 17 23:44:01 <Ayrehead02> Based on the page for Star Wars: The Old Republic, I do not believe that the release date can be sourced directly to the game.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:44:34 <Ayrehead02> To be fair not every vendor has a quote some were just silent
Feb 17 23:44:40 <Ayrehead02> I have no idea if this is the case here or not
Feb 17 23:45:13 <Imperators> I want a year.
Feb 17 23:45:15 <QGJ> Was Star Wars: The Old Republic Explorer's Guide checked? His location might be marked there as well, just like Aarsix
Feb 17 23:45:29 <Ayrehead02> No he was added much later in the game I think
Feb 17 23:45:51 <QGJ> Okay then
Feb 17 23:46:25 <Imperators> sooo... is Abryl humanoid?
Feb 17 23:46:38 <Ayrehead02> Good point
Feb 17 23:46:49 <Ayrehead02> Probe
Feb 17 23:46:51 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:46:57 <Imperators> this is probably beyond this article's scope, though
Feb 17 23:46:58 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:47:03 <QGJ> probe
Feb 17 23:47:04 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Feb 17 23:47:18 <Corellianpremier> probe
Feb 17 23:47:26 <Ayrehead02> Alright Abryl probed
Feb 17 23:47:42 <Ayrehead02> Next up is Adrell
Feb 17 23:47:43 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Adrell
Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02> Reference 2 does not fully source the location of Manwess III, as the companion does not include planets. Additional referencing should be added.
Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02> I've actually removed the information that it was in the Inner Rim since this seems an unnecessary level of location detail for a character article. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:37, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02> Unsourced BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02> Sourced. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:37, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:48:17 <Imperators> two issues from me
Feb 17 23:48:38 <Imperators> Rebellion era in infobox, which is more specific than the Galactic Civil War mentioned in body
Feb 17 23:49:19 <Toprawa> GG10 probably has a specific time period too
Feb 17 23:49:22 <Toprawa> I think all of those books did
Feb 17 23:49:30 <Toprawa> Even if it was as general as "between ANH and ROTJ" or something
Feb 17 23:49:33 <Imperators> and issue two, I disagree with Ayrehead. Inner Rim should definitely be added in the article, properly referenced to the Online Companion via a manual ref note, see recent status articles.
Feb 17 23:49:51 <Imperators> it does, Tope
Feb 17 23:50:03 <Ayrehead02> Alright then, Probe
Feb 17 23:50:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Astro-nerd :P
Feb 17 23:50:05 <QGJ> Probe
Feb 17 23:50:07 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Feb 17 23:50:12 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:50:12 <Corellianpremier> probe
Feb 17 23:50:16 <Toprawa> Probe
Feb 17 23:50:19 <Imperators> per Tommy
Feb 17 23:50:21 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:50:52 <Ayrehead02> Alright, Adrell probed
Feb 17 23:51:09 <Ayrehead02> Finally Darrus Alde
Feb 17 23:51:10 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darrus_Alde
Feb 17 23:51:17 <Ayrehead02> The biography paragraph should be split.
Feb 17 23:51:18 <Ayrehead02> Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:51:18 <Ayrehead02> Unsourced BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:51:18 <Ayrehead02> Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Feb 17 23:51:34 <Imperators> Ref 4 needs to utilize appropriate template
Feb 17 23:51:47 <Imperators> also, just use {{Mo}} in Appearances
Feb 17 23:52:18 <Ayrehead02> Those are both easy fixes
Feb 17 23:52:19 <Tommy-Macaroni> 1stm, you mean?
Feb 17 23:52:23 <Imperators> no
Feb 17 23:52:27 <QGJ> Do refs 9 and 10 work intheir current form?
Feb 17 23:52:35 <Imperators> the {{C}} needs to be just {{Mo}}
Feb 17 23:52:43 <Imperators> it's just mentioned in the game, and Codex is part of game
Feb 17 23:52:47 <Ayrehead02> But there's already a 1stm
Feb 17 23:52:49 <Tommy-Macaroni> Ah I see
Feb 17 23:53:00 <Imperators> also, there's no way ref 3 is enough for the date
Feb 17 23:53:01 <Ayrehead02> There doesn't need to be a 1stm and a mo?
Feb 17 23:53:04 <Imperators> TOR is set in BBY
Feb 17 23:53:33 <Imperators> right, Ayre, just {{1stm}}, sorry
Feb 17 23:54:09 <Ayrehead02> probe for the date then
Feb 17 23:54:20 <AnilSerifoglu> Probe
Feb 17 23:54:21 <QGJ> Probe
Feb 17 23:54:26 <Imperators> I'd also like a year for the TOR IU events, actually, as well
Feb 17 23:54:27 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Feb 17 23:54:30 <Imperators> it would help for context
Feb 17 23:54:31 <Imperators> probe
Feb 17 23:54:46 <Corellianpremier> probe
Feb 17 23:54:55 <Toprawa> Probe
Feb 17 23:54:59 <ecks> p
Feb 17 23:55:01 <Ayrehead02> Darrus Alde probed
Feb 17 23:55:05 <Imperators> like, Alde's hologram was kept wherever around year whatever.
Feb 17 23:55:19 <Ayrehead02> That's the last of the articles listed
Feb 17 23:55:29 <Ayrehead02> Anyone got anything else while I check the maintenance bin?
Feb 17 23:55:49 <Imperators> yes, please link the bin on the meeting page next time :P
Feb 17 23:56:05 <Imperators> no articles from me, though
Feb 17 23:56:07 <Ayrehead02> Yeah I just realised I missed it :P
Feb 17 23:56:47 <Tommy-Macaroni> Nope
Feb 17 23:56:54 <Ayrehead02> Nothing in the maintenance
Feb 17 23:56:54 <QGJ> Nothing from me
Feb 17 23:56:58 <Corellianpremier> all good
Feb 17 23:57:07 <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EduCorps/CA_maintenance_issues
Feb 17 23:57:12 <Ayrehead02> Nothing from me
Feb 17 23:57:13 <Imperators> on to the juicy part, then?
Feb 17 23:57:18 <Ayrehead02> Indeed
Feb 17 23:57:34 <Ayrehead02> Onto discussions!
Feb 17 23:57:55 <Ayrehead02> Firstly the meeting duties needs updating to include Anil
Feb 17 23:58:06 <Ayrehead02> And because we've reached the end
Feb 17 23:58:11 <Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah, me and QG aren't even on the current one
Feb 17 23:58:20 <Toprawa> Want me to randomize a new one?
Feb 17 23:58:26 <Imperators> yay
Feb 17 23:58:30 <QGJ> Please do
Feb 17 23:58:33 <Tommy-Macaroni> Please Tope, thanks
Feb 17 23:58:39 <Corellianpremier> yeah that would be great
Feb 17 23:58:39 <Tommy-Macaroni> Are we including SE?
Feb 17 23:58:48 <Tommy-Macaroni> He didn't leave notes for this meeting
Feb 17 23:58:50 <Toprawa> Who is all in this lsit?
Feb 17 23:58:51 <Toprawa> list*
Feb 17 23:58:57 <Toprawa> Because I realize not all Inqs and ACs participate
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Master Fredcerique
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> QuiGonJinn
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> AnilSerifoglu
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Corellian Premier
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Tommy-Macaroni
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Ayrehead02
Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Xd1358
Feb 17 23:59:06 <Tommy-Macaroni> Imperators II
Feb 17 23:59:06 <Tommy-Macaroni> Exiledjedi
Feb 17 23:59:08 <Tommy-Macaroni> I think
Feb 17 23:59:10 <Toprawa> Thanks
Feb 17 23:59:17 <Imperators> SE as well?
Feb 17 23:59:23 <Tommy-Macaroni> That just discounts you and SE
Feb 17 23:59:28 <Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah idk about SE
Feb 17 23:59:31 <Imperators> lol
Feb 17 23:59:34 <Imperators> poor SE
Feb 17 23:59:37 <ecks> don't include me
Feb 17 23:59:40 <ecks> I don't work here lady
Feb 17 23:59:48 <Toprawa> Ok
Feb 17 23:59:57 <Toprawa> I'm excluding SE
Feb 18 00:00:02 <Tommy-Macaroni> Cool
Feb 18 00:00:02 <QGJ> SE's got his hands full of 10 meetings-worth of paperwork, I think
Feb 18 00:00:08 <Imperators> ^
Feb 18 00:00:08 <Tommy-Macaroni> Heh
Feb 18 00:00:08 <Imperators> ^
Feb 18 00:00:09 <Imperators> ^
Feb 18 00:00:12 <Toprawa> Paperwork:
Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa> Corellian Premier
Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa> QuiGonJinn
Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa> AnilSerifoglu
Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa> Exiledjedi
Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa> Tommy-Macaroni
Feb 18 00:00:21 <Toprawa> Imperators II
Feb 18 00:00:23 <Toprawa> Ayrehead02
Feb 18 00:00:28 <Toprawa> Meeting scheduling:
Feb 18 00:00:41 <Toprawa> Ayrehead02
Feb 18 00:00:43 <Toprawa> Exiledjedi
Feb 18 00:00:45 <Toprawa> AnilSerifoglu
Feb 18 00:00:47 <Toprawa> Imperators II
Feb 18 00:00:49 <Toprawa> Corellian Premier
Feb 18 00:00:51 <Toprawa> QuiGonJinn
Feb 18 00:00:53 <Toprawa> Tommy-Macaroni
Feb 18 00:01:00 <Imperators> did Ayrehead just win?
Feb 18 00:01:22 <Ayrehead02> Two schedulings in a row?
Feb 18 00:01:24 <Ayrehead02> Dammit
Feb 18 00:01:36 <Toprawa> Yeah, but then you don't have to do it again for like a year :P
Feb 18 00:01:37 <Imperators> creativity resources stretched thin
Feb 18 00:01:37 <Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah but no paperwork
Feb 18 00:02:00 <Imperators> thanks for hosting, Ayre!
Feb 18 00:02:09 <Tommy-Macaroni> We're not done yet tho
Feb 18 00:02:13 <Ayrehead02> Nah there's more
Feb 18 00:02:18 <Imperators> I rest my case :P
Feb 18 00:02:22 <Ayrehead02> That was the first discussion item weirdly
Feb 18 00:02:58 <Ayrehead02> Next up Tommy has two
Feb 18 00:02:59 <Imperators> Tommy wants to do bad things to EC Redux?
Feb 18 00:03:06 <Tommy-Macaroni> Simple thing folks
Feb 18 00:03:27 <Tommy-Macaroni> I propose we, like our big brothers at the Inquisitorius and AC, merge our redux into the CAN page
Feb 18 00:03:35 <Tommy-Macaroni> Just so we don't forget about them
Feb 18 00:03:50 <Tommy-Macaroni> They will still remain EC only voting wise
Feb 18 00:04:25 <Imperators> support
Feb 18 00:04:31 <Tommy-Macaroni> Support
Feb 18 00:04:32 <Ayrehead02> Support
Feb 18 00:04:33 <QGJ> Yes, redux pages seem to be neglected when they are separated from the actual nomination page
Feb 18 00:04:36 <AnilSerifoglu> Support
Feb 18 00:04:36 <QGJ> support
Feb 18 00:04:38 <Corellianpremier> ~support
Feb 18 00:04:53 <Imperators> Ayre, gtfo re:Rafe's Gambit :P
Feb 18 00:05:16 <Toprawa> support
Feb 18 00:05:39 <Ayrehead02> Huh?
Feb 18 00:05:49 <Imperators> GAN it
Feb 18 00:05:54 <Ayrehead02> Oh fuck right
Feb 18 00:06:02 <Ayrehead02> Will do
Feb 18 00:06:14 <Ayrehead02> Anyway, Tommy's redux proposal passes
Feb 18 00:06:45 <Ayrehead02> Tommy it's you again
Feb 18 00:06:54 <Tommy-Macaroni> Okay, again this is simple
Feb 18 00:07:03 <Tommy-Macaroni> The Inq and AC have official infoboxes
Feb 18 00:07:20 <Tommy-Macaroni> I think the EC should have one too, especially now we have 3 EC-only members
Feb 18 00:07:28 <AnilSerifoglu> Yay :P
Feb 18 00:07:29 <Tommy-Macaroni> I suggest the one on my page
Feb 18 00:07:36 <Tommy-Macaroni> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tommy-Macaroni
Feb 18 00:07:50 <Imperators> shout-out to CP, QGJ, and Anil
Feb 18 00:08:03 <Tommy-Macaroni> {{Userbox|#808080|lightgrey|[[File:ECvote.png|link=Wookieepedia:EduCorps]]|This user is a member of the [[Wookieepedia]] [[Wookieepedia:EduCorps|EduCorps]].}}
Feb 18 00:08:06 <Toprawa> "This user is a member of the Wookieepedia EduCorps against his will." :P
Feb 18 00:08:12 <Tommy-Macaroni> Heh
Feb 18 00:08:20 <QGJ> Yep, pretty sure that's where I copied it from :p
Feb 18 00:08:23 <Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah don't worry Tope you don't have to use this :P
Feb 18 00:08:27 <Toprawa> :D
Feb 18 00:08:28 <QGJ> support
Feb 18 00:08:32 <Tommy-Macaroni> Support
Feb 18 00:08:33 <Toprawa> support
Feb 18 00:08:35 <Ayrehead02> Support
Feb 18 00:08:35 <Imperators> support
Feb 18 00:08:38 <Corellianpremier> support
Feb 18 00:08:40 <AnilSerifoglu> Support
Feb 18 00:08:45 <ecks> support
Feb 18 00:09:19 <Ayrehead02> Alright Tommy's infobox motion passes
Feb 18 00:09:42 <Tommy-Macaroni> Let's prepare ourselves folks
Feb 18 00:09:46 <Ayrehead02> Finally QGJ's got an audio file proposal
Feb 18 00:10:02 <Ayrehead02> It's only fair QGJ that you know we've already been fighting about this for a few hours
Feb 18 00:10:08 <QGJ> For a while now, it's been sort of an unspoken rule that audio files are a welcome addition to the article
Feb 18 00:10:16 <QGJ> Though not a requirement
Feb 18 00:10:39 <QGJ> However, lately I've seen many reviews specifically object to lack of audio files
Feb 18 00:11:02 <QGJ> Not just on the CAN page, but it's up the AC and the INQ to decide what to do on the other pages
Feb 18 00:11:35 <QGJ> Basically, I think it's time to expand our rule 11 to talk about audio files
Feb 18 00:12:04 <QGJ> Either A) Make it so that an article is required to have all quotes provided with relevant audio files, if any exist
Feb 18 00:12:24 <QGJ> or B) Actually make the unspoken rule...well spoken
Feb 18 00:13:00 <QGJ> Personally, I support option B. I do not think that audio files are a necessity
Feb 18 00:14:05 <Ayrehead02> Tope pointed out that this would need to be a CT vote not a review board one
Feb 18 00:14:05 <Toprawa> It needs to be stated that all objections on all three reviewing pages are only considered valid if they're backed by actual site policy.
Feb 18 00:14:27 <Toprawa> As reviewers, we can't legally obligate someone to make a change to an article unless it's a site rule
Feb 18 00:14:38 <Toprawa> This is coded into the nomination rules of all three pages
Feb 18 00:14:55 <Toprawa> As it stands, audio files are not currently required by site policy, so we can't object to them not being there as reviewers
Feb 18 00:14:56 <Ayrehead02> Who's making objections to add audio by the way?
Feb 18 00:15:13 <Toprawa> We can ask the nominator to do it, but we can't hold up a nomination with a formal objection if they don't
Feb 18 00:15:30 <Tommy-Macaroni> I know me and Imperators are guilty of this, at least
Feb 18 00:15:41 <AnilSerifoglu> #MeToo
Feb 18 00:16:16 <Toprawa> To make a comparison...
Feb 18 00:16:24 <QGJ> Fan26 has been doing it as well, if we are calling out names
Feb 18 00:16:24 <Imperators> FWIW, the even more important thing here, QGJ, is that the rules of FAN/GAN/CAN can *only* be modified by a CT/Mofference.
Feb 18 00:16:33 <Toprawa> Over in the Inq, we were probing articles because they were sourcing by page number
Feb 18 00:16:45 <Toprawa> But we stopped that when it was brought up that this isn't a site policy
Feb 18 00:17:11 <QGJ> I don't mind taking it to the CT, if this is what is required
Feb 18 00:17:29 <Toprawa> I would advise refraining from turning the remainder of this meeting into a debate on this subject
Feb 18 00:17:35 <Toprawa> As there are competing opinions
Feb 18 00:17:36 <Ayrehead02> Agreed
Feb 18 00:18:04 <Imperators> yeah, QGJ, CT is where all this should go to
Feb 18 00:18:13 <Imperators> there sure are opinions
Feb 18 00:18:39 <QGJ> Oh, I'm sure there are
Feb 18 00:19:02 <QGJ> Okay, then expect this topic to pop up on the CT page in the coming days
Feb 18 00:19:04 <Ayrehead02> It sounds as though only I'm really in favour of adding audio so it shouldn't be too much of a fight
Feb 18 00:19:26 <Imperators> but you have fight in you, Ayre :P
Feb 18 00:19:34 <Ayrehead02> Eh I'm not fighting you all :P
Feb 18 00:19:37 <QGJ> Be like Ganner Rhysode
Feb 18 00:19:42 <QGJ> Make your last stand epic
Feb 18 00:19:52 <Ayrehead02> I'll just keep adding my own audio and leave it optional
Feb 18 00:20:18 <Ayrehead02> I swear it was you who originally persuade me they were important Tope, but maybe I misremembered :P
Feb 18 00:20:25 <Ayrehead02> *persuaded
Feb 18 00:20:36 <Toprawa> I do think they're important
Feb 18 00:20:39 <Toprawa> And I would prefer if they were always present
Feb 18 00:20:46 <Toprawa> I just don't like the idea of making it a requirement
Feb 18 00:21:19 <Tommy-Macaroni> If we're done, I'll be off lads. Thanks for hosting Ayre
Feb 18 00:21:21 <Ayrehead02> Fair enough I guess
Feb 18 00:21:29 <QGJ> Same here. I have to go now
Feb 18 00:21:30 <Toprawa> Thanks for hosting, Ayrehead
Feb 18 00:21:35 <QGJ> Thanks for hosting Ayre
Feb 18 00:21:39 <Ayrehead02> Anyone else have any discussion? Otherwise we're done
Feb 18 00:21:41 <Imperators> yeah, thanks, Ayre
Feb 18 00:21:44 <AnilSerifoglu> Thanks, Ayre!