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X-1 (assassin)
- Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Number one!
(1 ECs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
~ SavageBob 05:01, February 10, 2011 (UTC)- Menkooroo 10:03, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Darth Morrt 07:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
- OLIOSTER (talk) 13:52, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
Object
- Hey there!
Since the article has an intro, keep in mind that the body operates entirely independent of the intro --- that is, everything that's been established in the intro needs to also be established in the body. As such, it's usually a good idea to begin the body similar to the intro, with something like "X-1 was an assassin..." Right now, the body starts out by talking about Rezi Soresh, and it's kind of like "Wait, who?" The body also doesn't mention that X-1 was created by Soresh, just that he was used by him.- Got rid of intro on all of the articles. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 02:34, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Does he die? "Dispatched with a vibroblade" makes it seem like he does.Menkooroo 16:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)- Replaced with the less ambiguous phrase, "killed". --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 02:34, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
- Excellent!
A couple more: "Soresh wiped their identities from the system"... what system?- Not too sure what system it is referring to. The sentence in the book is "...had their former identities completely wiped from the system..." Some sort of universal Empire identification system I'm guessing. Not to sure how to say that. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 21:34, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Consider putting it in your own words, and making it seem less vague. You can do it! :) Menkooroo 05:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Now it's fairly clear I think. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 10:30, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
- Consider putting it in your own words, and making it seem less vague. You can do it! :) Menkooroo 05:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Not too sure what system it is referring to. The sentence in the book is "...had their former identities completely wiped from the system..." Some sort of universal Empire identification system I'm guessing. Not to sure how to say that. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 21:34, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
Is it true that X-7 was already Soresh's personal assassin in 7 BBY (per Nahdar's comment below)? If so, isn't it fair to say that X-1 died before 7 BBY?- In my research, I can't find any mention to anything prior to the Battle of Yavin concerning X-7 or any of the others. I'm not 100% completely acquainted with everything said in the books so I may be mistaken. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 21:34, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Might be worth asking on Nahdar's talk page if that info is indeed from the book. Menkooroo 05:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Contacted his page and got the info. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 10:30, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
- Might be worth asking on Nahdar's talk page if that info is indeed from the book. Menkooroo 05:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- In my research, I can't find any mention to anything prior to the Battle of Yavin concerning X-7 or any of the others. I'm not 100% completely acquainted with everything said in the books so I may be mistaken. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 21:34, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
The only other thing I would recommend would be to make some revisions to all of the other X-articles you have nommed so that they're not just the same article copied and pasted six times. It's better to write a unique article each time that gets the same important points across, but in a different way. I'm currently doing the same thing with a bunch of similar articles, see here here and here if you want to get a better idea of what I'm talking about --- same points, different sentences expressing them. Make sense?Menkooroo 20:44, January 18, 2011 (UTC)- Will try and take this into account. I don't have that much time, so writing six different articles about the same points will be fairly difficult for me. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 21:34, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- It won't be as difficult as it seems --- just change the sentences around so that the wording isn't exactly the same, ya know? Menkooroo 05:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like SavageBob did that job for me, thanks for that! --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 05:49, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
- They're all still pretty identical. I hope you can get to this and the other two objections soon, as they're three weeks old now and this nom is accordingly eligible for removal. Any progress on any of them? Menkooroo 05:08, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- I have two assessments to complete so next week I'll get back to it. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 05:53, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Blaaaghhh the objections have already sat idle for three weeks, and two weeks of idleness is supposed to be grounds for instantaneous removal of the nom. When you've already been given a week's grace, "I'll get to it soon" probably isn't the best attitude to bring to the table. Especially since it doesn't appear that you've made any inquiries on Nahdar's talk page; he's not the most active user, and it might take a couple more weeks for you to get confirmation from him. I hate to be a jerk, but it just doesn't seem like you're very dedicated to this nom. I'm not a member of the Educorps, but unless you can address these objections within the next few days, I'm going to ask one of them to remove this nomination. Menkooroo 06:03, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Please fix these objections within 24 hours, or the nomination will have to be removed. Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 13:51, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- OK, no need for the rage-fest. I tried my best to move it all around and make it different, but it's a bit hard when all you have to go off are a few sentences. If this isn't good enough, I don't know what else to do. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 10:30, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
- No, that's perfect. Sorry for being a little harsh there. Menkooroo 10:03, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
- OK, no need for the rage-fest. I tried my best to move it all around and make it different, but it's a bit hard when all you have to go off are a few sentences. If this isn't good enough, I don't know what else to do. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 10:30, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
- Please fix these objections within 24 hours, or the nomination will have to be removed. Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 13:51, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Blaaaghhh the objections have already sat idle for three weeks, and two weeks of idleness is supposed to be grounds for instantaneous removal of the nom. When you've already been given a week's grace, "I'll get to it soon" probably isn't the best attitude to bring to the table. Especially since it doesn't appear that you've made any inquiries on Nahdar's talk page; he's not the most active user, and it might take a couple more weeks for you to get confirmation from him. I hate to be a jerk, but it just doesn't seem like you're very dedicated to this nom. I'm not a member of the Educorps, but unless you can address these objections within the next few days, I'm going to ask one of them to remove this nomination. Menkooroo 06:03, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- I have two assessments to complete so next week I'll get back to it. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 05:53, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- They're all still pretty identical. I hope you can get to this and the other two objections soon, as they're three weeks old now and this nom is accordingly eligible for removal. Any progress on any of them? Menkooroo 05:08, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like SavageBob did that job for me, thanks for that! --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 05:49, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
- It won't be as difficult as it seems --- just change the sentences around so that the wording isn't exactly the same, ya know? Menkooroo 05:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Will try and take this into account. I don't have that much time, so writing six different articles about the same points will be fairly difficult for me. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 21:34, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
I've splitted the article into two sections. IMO, it looks better this way, but feel free to revert it if you disagree. If the sectioning is good for you, please put the appropriate ref at the end of the first section.Darth Morrt 03:24, January 21, 2011 (UTC)- Thanks. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 04:47, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
Does the source give X-1's species?Darth Morrt 03:24, January 21, 2011 (UTC)- No mention of species anywhere. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 04:47, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
Same objections as X-2, below. ~ SavageBob 18:06, January 30, 2011 (UTC)- Done --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 05:49, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
Comments
- For all clones of Project Omega: Soresh didn't train them to hunt Skywalker. X-7 serves him seven years before the Death Star blows up. Nahdar Vebb 21:34, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Got rid of it. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 02:34, January 13, 2011 (UTC)