Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified Zeltron Jedi

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Unidentified Zeltron Jedi

  • Nominated by: Hego Damask II (talk) 01:09, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:
  • Date Archived: 00:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Final word count: 132 words (0 introduction, 112 body, 20 behind the scenes)
  • Word count at nomination time: 111 words (0 introduction, 89 body, 22 behind the scenes)
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Support votes

  1. ECvote Lewisr (talk) 06:18, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
  2. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 19:54, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
  3. ECvote —spookywillowwtalk 00:37, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
  4. ThePedantry (talk) 00:48, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
  5. ECvote CometSmudge (talk) 00:56, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Objections

CC-8
  • Gender isn't mentioned in the body
  • Context for Firrhana should be given in the same sentence in which its mentioned
  • Affiliation with the Republic isn't quite acknowledged in the body, but does the novel specifically establish it?
    • It does not, but on a related note, I am uncertain now as to the title and affiliation with the Jedi Order since Iskat believes the Zeltron to be a Jedi but doesn't recognise her. How should this be rectified? Hego Damask II (talk)
      • Ah, it's a bit of a pain but I think the best option is to move the article to Unidentified Zeltron (Firrhana) and rewrite the article to frame it as Iskat's speculation
        • Will do. Sorry about that; it seems the issue dates back to the redlink in the novel's article I created it from. I suppose this nomination page goes kaput with a new one after the move? Hego Damask II (talk) 01:45, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
  • The reference in the death section of the infobox should be combined into a single ref Commander Code-8 Hello There! 12:15, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Some underlinking: Death, prisoner. Additionally, we avoid using links in bolded words, so Jedi should be linked later. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 12:15, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Still need to clearly state that Iskat thought the Zeltron was a Jedi
  • Article is now missing a bolded word, it should be Zeltron in this case
  • The Darth Vader comics in the death reference should be formatted so that the years and brackets aren't italicized Commander Code-8 Hello There! 08:02, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
spookly
  • Full release dates in the BTS aren't included for novel unless another source is also being discussed that's from the same year, which isn't the case here. Just the release year alone suffices.—spookywillowwtalk 21:06, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Lew
  • If we're not treating as a Jedi, then the Jedi type should be removed and the Jedi of the Jedi Order category removedLewisr (talk) 22:09, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
  • 'Waning years of the Galactic Republic' should just be changed to the Republic Era Lewisr (talk) 22:09, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Should the first mention of Darth Vader (2017) 20 in the date note instead be Darth Vader (2017) 6 or 7? Lewisr (talk) 22:09, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
  • I think it should be noted that Ikaris didn't recognise her Lewisr (talk) 21:25, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Comments

  • I actually think she should be treated as a Jedi, since we typically assume the information the book gives is true unless it gives an indication it might not be. Since the book doesn't describe the Zeltron being a Jedi as a guess or assumption, we generally would treat her as actually being one. Otherwise, we also wouldn't be able to list her gender or pronouns either based on the same reasoning. CometSmudge (talk) 03:43, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
    • Yeah fair, I agree as well Lewisr (talk) 06:01, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
      • I don't disagree but will note that the novel being based exclusively on Iskat's perspective gives the potential for biased/unclear statements (her relationship with Charlin, for example). Hego Damask II (talk) 22:29, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
        • Perhaps, but that doesn't necessarily mean for all cases. This instance seems to be entirely fine to take her word for, also given if potentially being hunted by other individuals who hunted Jedi, and is imprisoned by an individual known for collecting Jedi and their artifacts Lewisr (talk) 02:27, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
        • Per the other Inqs, the standard is that the character is treated as a Jedi; this aligns with the wider standard of similar status articles sitewide. Which ultimately on status articles, precedent usually carries the day, and this case doesn't in any way seem exceptional to any of the other similar cases that exist.—spookywillowwtalk 03:54, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
        • Does the article need to be moved back to the original title? Hego Damask II (talk) 09:55, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 00:56, 22 November 2025 (UTC)