- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
ST-4402
- Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 17:38, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments:
(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
~ SavageBob 18:19, November 2, 2010 (UTC)- Bonslywizard
(Send a transmission) 13:32, November 5, 2010 (UTC) - Menkooroo 07:30, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- OLIOSTER (talk) 15:07, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 22:46, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
Object
"ST-4402 posessed the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise." Does the source actually say that?--Bonslywizard(Send a transmission) 00:09, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Yea it does. Hanzo Hasashi 01:54, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm...even so, it seems kinda POV. Try changing the wording a little.--Bonslywizard(Send a transmission) 17:30, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, will do so. Hanzo Hasashi 19:54, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm...even so, it seems kinda POV. Try changing the wording a little.--Bonslywizard
- Yea it does. Hanzo Hasashi 01:54, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
ST-4402 was thought of as possessing the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise. - thought of by who? You need to qualify exactly who considered this to be factual. He either possessed the firepower or not. Also, can we identify his weapon and add it into the article?- Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 12:08, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Hope the following's alright: Like other stormtroopers assigned to a garrison on Tatooine, ST-4402 possessed the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise.Hanzo Hasashi 17:19, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Can we identify the weapon? Looks like a T-21 to me? - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 09:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Definitely is, however not sure whether appearance is enough to confirm. No actual source saying it's a T-21. Hanzo Hasashi 17:31, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough. On close inspection, there appears to be enough difference to cause doubt in my earlier statement, to be honest. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 22:46, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough. On close inspection, there appears to be enough difference to cause doubt in my earlier statement, to be honest. - Cavalier One
- Definitely is, however not sure whether appearance is enough to confirm. No actual source saying it's a T-21. Hanzo Hasashi 17:31, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Can we identify the weapon? Looks like a T-21 to me? - Cavalier One
- Hope the following's alright: Like other stormtroopers assigned to a garrison on Tatooine, ST-4402 possessed the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise.Hanzo Hasashi 17:19, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
Unless the source states human, then you'll have to ref it to another source, which would then mean reffing the entire article.- Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 12:11, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Sourced entire article, CSWE as source for him (?) being human, with a behind the scenes note of how it does not actually mention him, but talks about the stormtroopers in general during Palpatine's reign. Hanzo Hasashi 17:19, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
One more thing - you have "Males" in the category listing, but not in the infobox, and the BTS states that the gender is not identified. You'll either need to remove the "Males" cat, or add info that states he was male.- Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 09:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Forgot to change it. Hanzo Hasashi 17:31, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
The infobox sources "Human" to the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, but the article's body sources it to the trading card. Something like "ST-4402 was the designation of a[2] Human[1] who served as a Imperial Stormtrooper officer assigned to a garrison on Tatooine during the Galactic Civil War.[2]" would be more accurate.- Will change the sourcing. Hanzo Hasashi 19:08, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
Keep in mind that a short article like this doesn't have an actual intro, and as such, nothing should be linked again in personality & traits.Menkooroo 16:04, November 8, 2010 (UTC)- Will get rid of the sourcing. Hanzo Hasashi 19:08, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
- No no no no no, the entire article needs to be sourced, but things like stormtrooper, garrison, and Tatooine should only be linked once, as the article has no intro. Menkooroo 04:03, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I misread it. I thought it was weird not to source the personality and traits, but still thought it best to do any of the suggested tweaking, not knowing I had completely misunderstood... Anyhow, fixed and addressed now. Hanzo Hasashi 05:33, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- No worries. :) But... you've actually undone your entire edit, including sourcing "Human" in the body. Menkooroo 05:39, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed. Hanzo Hasashi 15:08, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- No worries. :) But... you've actually undone your entire edit, including sourcing "Human" in the body. Menkooroo 05:39, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I misread it. I thought it was weird not to source the personality and traits, but still thought it best to do any of the suggested tweaking, not knowing I had completely misunderstood... Anyhow, fixed and addressed now. Hanzo Hasashi 05:33, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- No no no no no, the entire article needs to be sourced, but things like stormtrooper, garrison, and Tatooine should only be linked once, as the article has no intro. Menkooroo 04:03, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Will get rid of the sourcing. Hanzo Hasashi 19:08, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
Comments
- Fairly obscure CCG character, being mentioned by one source alone. Also I am assuming ST-4402 is a human, because IIRC non-humans only existed within stormtrooper ranks after the formation of the New Republic. Somebody please correct me if this is not necessarily the case. Hanzo Hasashi 17:38, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Is there anything worth noting from his CCG card mechanics in the BTS? Sometimes, it's worth noting that the character had "average strength" or whatnot or if he or she had any special abilities. Apparently, writers sometimes use such stats as guidelines when they incorporate such characters into stories. ~ SavageBob 19:22, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
- When in battle against an alien ST-4402 is power +2. I don't think that's worth noting. Hanzo Hasashi 19:59, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
- What might be worth noting isn't the specific number or stat, but how that compares to other cards. Is that value average? Weak? Strong? In other words, you might add a line to the effect that "The game statistics presented on ST-4402's game card make the character [stronger/weaker] than other game personages." ~ SavageBob 20:04, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
- When in battle against an alien ST-4402 is power +2. I don't think that's worth noting. Hanzo Hasashi 19:59, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe the Star Wars Legacy comics showing different looking female stormtrooper armor (worn by Jes Gistang and Unidentified female stormtrooper) could be a source to verify this trooper's gender, I don't know... Hanzo Hasashi 20:58, November 3, 2010 (UTC)