- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
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LG3-18
- Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:23, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Combing through the Dark Forces Audio Dramas uncovers some lost relics.
(3 ECs/1 Users/4 Total)
Support
501st dogma(talk) 16:44, March 20, 2015 (UTC)- Manoof (talk) 07:06, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 01:35, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:02, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
- These are literally my favorite types of subject: the ones that appeared in one or two obscure sources and have been neglected an article for years, and are finally given one after decades of sitting there, gathering proverbial dust. - AV-6R7 (talk) 23:06, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Object
501st
Would a homeworld of Nar Shadda be appropriate in the infobox?501st dogma(talk) 21:47, March 19, 2015 (UTC)- There's nothing really indicating that it was built on Nar Shaddaa. He could have been built elsewhere and brought to the moon and installed by whoever ran the traffic operations, unless you mean to just use Nar Shaddaa as a place of residence, or something. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:27, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
CP
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hich degree of droid is it? Also, I think we can safely add the Nar Shaddaa resident category.Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 21:15, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know. The quote in the article, and Ors agreeing to follow his vector, is all that is known about the droid. I'll add the place of residence though, now that there's been an additional voice on the matter. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:50, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, the Essential Guide to Droids or somesuch source lists the various types, maybe guidance droids will fit into one of those. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 23:32, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't see guidance droids, but the first Essential Guide listed another kind of traffic droid under Municipal. Would that work? And wouldn't Guidance Droid be more like a class of droid? LG and 8-13 are my first droid nominations, but I'm happy to learn. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 23:45, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that would probably be a similar degree. And what you have about the class looks right. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 23:15, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry to interject here. Clonehunter, the degree is 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th degree. I don't have the book but I'm guessing municipal droids are 5th degree? Also I think municipal would probably be more of the class with landing guidance droid being the model. Manoof (talk) 06:40, April 3, 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I was going by the old Droid Guide, which according to the page didn't have classes. I guess it'd be whatever municipal relate to in regards of class. Class Three could almost work, too. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:16, April 3, 2015 (UTC)
- That's cool, but I think 5 would be better as this would be transportation, non intelligent intensive. Its a simple matter of providing a landing approach based on conditions. 3 would be if there were more social functions needed, which he wouldn't. An example of a 3rd degree droid would be 3PO. Keep in mind I don't have the new guide to droids, and am only going off what the articles here say. Manoof (talk) 19:58, April 3, 2015 (UTC)
- I'd say that what you say makes more sense. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 04:45, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Does the guide actually classify landing droids under any degree? I'd be hesitant to classify it without something specific backing the degree up. If the reference is kept, it will need some sort of explanation included as LG318 is not mentioned in the guide.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 17:55, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Unless someone has it on hands, I'll have to order a copy from a library this coming week. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:27, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
- According to this thread, Om says that the closest thing to Landing Guidance droids are Piloting droids. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:50, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
- Unless someone has it on hands, I'll have to order a copy from a library this coming week. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:27, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Does the guide actually classify landing droids under any degree? I'd be hesitant to classify it without something specific backing the degree up. If the reference is kept, it will need some sort of explanation included as LG318 is not mentioned in the guide.--Exiled Jedi
- I'd say that what you say makes more sense. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 04:45, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
- That's cool, but I think 5 would be better as this would be transportation, non intelligent intensive. Its a simple matter of providing a landing approach based on conditions. 3 would be if there were more social functions needed, which he wouldn't. An example of a 3rd degree droid would be 3PO. Keep in mind I don't have the new guide to droids, and am only going off what the articles here say. Manoof (talk) 19:58, April 3, 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I was going by the old Droid Guide, which according to the page didn't have classes. I guess it'd be whatever municipal relate to in regards of class. Class Three could almost work, too. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:16, April 3, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that would probably be a similar degree. And what you have about the class looks right. Corellian Premier
- I didn't see guidance droids, but the first Essential Guide listed another kind of traffic droid under Municipal. Would that work? And wouldn't Guidance Droid be more like a class of droid? LG and 8-13 are my first droid nominations, but I'm happy to learn. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 23:45, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, the Essential Guide to Droids or somesuch source lists the various types, maybe guidance droids will fit into one of those. Corellian Premier
- I don't know. The quote in the article, and Ors agreeing to follow his vector, is all that is known about the droid. I'll add the place of residence though, now that there's been an additional voice on the matter. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:50, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
I fail to see how a reference to pilot droids being 5th degree droids is enough for a landing guidance droid to be identified as the same degree. One flies a ship, while the other just directs a ship to land, which is not really the same thing.--Exiled Jedi(Greetings) 02:20, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree, actually. CP added the category in. I suppose if we can't pin-point it we can't put anything down. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 14:18, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, you could ask CP to participate in the discussion, but I really don't think there is enough to state anything about the droid's degree.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 18:36, April 26, 2015 (UTC)
- Then I'll remove the degree, and ask CP what he thinks. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:15, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
- Have you had the discussion with CP yet?--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 01:02, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
- It's on going. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:01, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
- Have you had the discussion with CP yet?--Exiled Jedi
- Then I'll remove the degree, and ask CP what he thinks. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:15, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, you could ask CP to participate in the discussion, but I really don't think there is enough to state anything about the droid's degree.--Exiled Jedi
- I agree, actually. CP added the category in. I suppose if we can't pin-point it we can't put anything down. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 14:18, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
- Apologize for the lack of follow-up. 5th degree would be more than fine. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 01:54, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
- How can we identify it as 5th-degree?--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 02:22, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think we can, personally. Unless something specifically states that traffic conducting droids can be placed in a certain degree. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:37, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
- How can we identify it as 5th-degree?--Exiled Jedi
The "somewhat masculine voice" mention in the BTS does not seem right to me. Either you can state the voice is male or you can't. If you can't state this definitively, say so in the BTS. Otherwise, you should add the masculine programming category.--Exiled Jedi(Greetings) 01:23, May 28, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I wasn't really sure how far we could assert something. If I was to go on a limb, I'd say it was a male voice. But being a droid, I hesitated. Here's a video that should start when the droid speaks, if you want to see for yourself. I guess I can just Male-ify this droid for now. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:07, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
- Also, I relaized I missed the fact it's pronounced El-Gee-Three-Eighteen. Would this then read as LG3-18 as opposed to LG318? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:12, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think that would probably be better. However, since we do not know the actual spelling, this template should be used: {{Conjecturespell}}--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 12:11, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, that's a useful template. I've added it, and I've moved the page. It seems I moved everything else correctly, too. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 22:30, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think that would probably be better. However, since we do not know the actual spelling, this template should be used: {{Conjecturespell}}--Exiled Jedi
- Also, I relaized I missed the fact it's pronounced El-Gee-Three-Eighteen. Would this then read as LG3-18 as opposed to LG318? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:12, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I wasn't really sure how far we could assert something. If I was to go on a limb, I'd say it was a male voice. But being a droid, I hesitated. Here's a video that should start when the droid speaks, if you want to see for yourself. I guess I can just Male-ify this droid for now. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:07, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
You still have the sentence in the BTS, which kind of conflicts with the body: "LG318's gender is never specified, even though the character has a somewhat masculine voice." I would reword this sentence to state that the article bases the droid's gender off of its voice and note that nothing else identifies it.--Exiled Jedi(Greetings) 12:11, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
- Whoops, my fault. I reworded it then based on the suggestion. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 22:30, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
"The Essential Guide to Droids states that traffic oriented droids, such as LG318, as municipal traffic droids." Aside from the grammar mistake and the old spelling of the droid's name in this reference, I looked through the book and I could not find the term "municipal traffic droid," only the fact that one traffic droid was under the municipal section. Where are you getting municipal traffic droid from?--Exiled Jedi(Greetings) 14:25, July 3, 2015 (UTC)
- I must have been extrapolating (?) a connection between the term 'municipal' and the one traffic droid as a general kind of droid, as opposed to anything specific. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:51, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think having one traffic droid under the municipal section is enough to state that all related droids can be identified as "municipal traffic droids."--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 15:49, July 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Ok. So I just removed the whole inference then, unless we still want to call him a traffic droid on its own, as that's basically what he's doing. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:08, July 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think having one traffic droid under the municipal section is enough to state that all related droids can be identified as "municipal traffic droids."--Exiled Jedi
- I must have been extrapolating (?) a connection between the term 'municipal' and the one traffic droid as a general kind of droid, as opposed to anything specific. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:51, July 4, 2015 (UTC)