Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Frank (gladiator)

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Frank (gladiator)

Nominated by: Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 17:28, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
Nomination comments:Back with more.

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Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 17:41, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
A Feeorin named Frank?--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 15:13, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
One day we will hear of the combined adventures of Frank, Francis, and Simon. SinisterSamurai 02:12, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 10:14, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
Menkooroo 12:09, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

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Yeffrey
- An article this small doesn't have room for an image beyond the infobox one. Images should be able to fit within the prose of an article; if they have to be stuck beneath the references, it's a sure indicator that there's no room for them. Menkooroo 02:52, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
  - Fixed. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 03:10, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
- ~~Coolio. A few more: Can you mention the scar on his forehead somewhere?~~
  - Done.
- ~~The opening sentence drags on quite a bit --- him being Nym's cousin should really get its own sentence. Also for grammatical purposes.~~
  - Fixed.
    - But... I didn't say remove it entirely! :(
      - Actually, I didn't remove it. Someone else did. I put it back though. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 16:07, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
        Hmmm... sorry to be difficult, but I think I agree with what Sinister Samurai said in his edit summary. The identification of him as Nym's cousin seems more like an OOU joke than an IU statement. I think it should be restricted to BTS.
        I figured that would still be considered canon since it's from a source, (look at Stewjon), but I'll default to your experience. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 23:25, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
        This is the only source for the name Frank, right? We need to be consistent and treat the name and relationship to Nym the same: either both are canon or both are not. That is my two cents. --Eyrezer 01:24, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
        I would say that they are both canon. It wouldn't be the first time that canon would be introduced in a joke. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 03:20, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
        See how the changes I made look. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 02:46, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
- ~~The digital art book kinda sounds like it should be its own source. Whaddya think?~~ Menkooroo 05:58, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
  - You got it. I've never used the {{1stID}} before, so do you think it should be used in this situation? Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 15:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
    - Yes! Also, if it's its own source, it needs its own article. Menkooroo 03:32, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
      - Done. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 16:16, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
- ~~You can use the vertical line to add a parameter to {{1stID}}. {{1stID|Frank}} will get rid of the "(Gladiator)".~~ Menkooroo 19:05, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
  - OK, got it. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 23:25, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
- OK! Sorry it took me so long to get back to this. After thinking about it, I agree with you in regards to including the Frank & cousin stuff in the bio. I have one more tiny thing, though: The bts quote indicates that this character existed as concept art in the Lucasarts archives prior to the development of TFUII. Mention that in the BTS's prose and we'll call it a day. Menkooroo 15:06, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
  - That should do it. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 18:18, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
- ~~Could you mention the Baron's affiliation to the Galactic Empire?~~--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 12:07, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
  - Shore thing. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 15:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
SinSam
*Do you think you can use the info from comments for at least a Bts quote? And it's up to you, but, "You're running out of executioners, Baron." might be a nifty top-o-page quote.SinisterSamurai 22:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
- - Seems like a good idea. Check it out. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 01:01, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
    - It looks like it works. Alternate choices would be "Raaaaaahg!" or whatever he shouts before going "down like a punk." SinisterSamurai 02:12, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Concept art of Barbaric Feeorin is accompanied by text: "We needed a character to go down like a punk for General Kota's intro in the Cato Neimoidia arena. It was also a great chance to go through our concept art archive and resurrect a character that never made it into a game. Anyone remember Nym, the Feeorin pirate from Star Wars: Starfighter and Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter, who led raids against the trade federation? Meet his cousin, Frank." -From the Starkiller Mimobot (Digital Artbook -> Characters section). Foreword for that section is by Haden Blackman, but I can't seem to determine if he's author of the rest of the DAB or not. Frank is pictured again in DAB -> Story Panels section, but not mentioned. The Game Script from the Mimobot simply refers to a pair of "Barbaric aliens." SinisterSamurai 21:54, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
If the only source of his name is the BTS quote, then his name is part of the same joke that identifies him as Nym's cousin. This is a both or nothink situation, isn't it? I would add the cousin-thing to the Bio and state in the BTS that his name and relatives could be only a joke. Darth Morrt 19:52, August 20, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, Darth Morrt. Both can be included in the bio and reference it in the Bts. --Eyrezer 01:26, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
  - See my comment above. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 03:20, August 22, 2011 (UTC)