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Folded ear boosqueak
- Nominated by: Eyrezer 03:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A menagerie of creatures from the Atrivis sector
(1 ECs/3 Users/3 Total)
Support
Now that the naming thing has been cleared up. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 06:47, September 18, 2010 (UTC)- ~ SavageBob 22:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Excellent. Menkooroo 06:25, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Nice, nice.--ID-21 Dolphin
(Talk) 00:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
Object
Shouldn't the rare folded ear boosqueak have its own article?SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 22:46, August 17, 2010 (UTC)- Done, with a new nomination below! --Eyrezer 01:46, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
- See comments below. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 09:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Done, with a new nomination below! --Eyrezer 01:46, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
My objection is in direct opposition to the above objection. Rebellion does not state or suggest in any way that any type of species named "boosqueak" is somehow a separate species from the folded ear boosqueak. The entry reads: "Fedje is host to many forms of exotic arboreal lifeforms including the rare folded ear boosqueak." "Boosqueak" should simply be a redirect to "Folded ear boosqueak," or vice versa, depending on what you think is the best title.Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)- Ah, I was unaware of that. If that's all the source says, then I agree with Toprawa. I would say folded ear boospueak would be the better name. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 09:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
- The "folded ear" part is a qualifier on the type of boosqueak. This just follows the conventions of the English language. The "bottlenose dolphin" is a type of dolphin; the "long haired chihuahua" is a type of chihuahua; the "folded ear boosqueak" is a type of boosqueak. --Eyrezer 05:10, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- You're extrapolating based on real-world standards, which doesn't necessarily apply to the Star Wars universe or this species in question. The only species mentioned in Star Wars canon is the "folded ear boosqueak," yet you've taken it upon yourself to create a second species altogether. Show me the source that mentions the regular "boosqueak" in differential to the "folded ear boosqueak" and you can have two articles. Otherwise, these need to be combined into one article for the one species mentioned in canon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:32, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
I see Eyrezer's point; it's perfectly logical. But I think in this case, it is better to go with exactly what the OS says, which is "folded-ear boosqueak" and not just plain ol' "boosqueak." So, mostly per Tope. ~ SavageBob 05:36, September 14, 2010 (UTC)Just as some other examples of how we've done this in the past, I think this situation is analogous to Kintan strider, Corellian sand panther, Mantellian Savrip, Florn Lamproid, etc. In each of these cases, we only have one article for the species (sometimes with the modifier, sometimes without). However, I'm sure we'd create a new one if a later source introduced us to the Chandrilan sand panther or what have you. ~ SavageBob 16:07, September 14, 2010 (UTC)- Against my better judgment, merged the two. Please proceed with the nomination lower down this page. --Eyrezer 10:33, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
- You're extrapolating based on real-world standards, which doesn't necessarily apply to the Star Wars universe or this species in question. The only species mentioned in Star Wars canon is the "folded ear boosqueak," yet you've taken it upon yourself to create a second species altogether. Show me the source that mentions the regular "boosqueak" in differential to the "folded ear boosqueak" and you can have two articles. Otherwise, these need to be combined into one article for the one species mentioned in canon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:32, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- The "folded ear" part is a qualifier on the type of boosqueak. This just follows the conventions of the English language. The "bottlenose dolphin" is a type of dolphin; the "long haired chihuahua" is a type of chihuahua; the "folded ear boosqueak" is a type of boosqueak. --Eyrezer 05:10, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I was unaware of that. If that's all the source says, then I agree with Toprawa. I would say folded ear boospueak would be the better name. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 09:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Rare folded-ear objection
I don't know how I feel about the bts's "possibly inspired by this encyclopedia entry." I say, it's speculative and questionably relevant, darn it!Menkooroo 05:43, September 14, 2010 (UTC)- How about now? Rebellion established there were many exotic animals on Fedje, and later VotF has exotic pet salesmen from Fedje. --Eyrezer 23:31, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Still no good. "Appears to be" is original research. Similarly, I don't think it's really relevant to Boosqueak. Maybe for the Fedje article, but as VOTF doesn't mention the Boosqueak --- and Rebellion establishes that there are many exotic lifeforms from Fedje --- I think it's drifting too far off-topic. Menkooroo 03:20, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
- We definitely have different views on what constitutes OR, especially demonstrated by the completely limp wording you felt was necessary on the Mephitisian article. I remove the sentence on the relevance point, though. --Eyrezer 03:38, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
- ... Well, that was a little reactionary and unnecessary. Menkooroo 16:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
- We definitely have different views on what constitutes OR, especially demonstrated by the completely limp wording you felt was necessary on the Mephitisian article. I remove the sentence on the relevance point, though. --Eyrezer 03:38, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Still no good. "Appears to be" is original research. Similarly, I don't think it's really relevant to Boosqueak. Maybe for the Fedje article, but as VOTF doesn't mention the Boosqueak --- and Rebellion establishes that there are many exotic lifeforms from Fedje --- I think it's drifting too far off-topic. Menkooroo 03:20, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
- How about now? Rebellion established there were many exotic animals on Fedje, and later VotF has exotic pet salesmen from Fedje. --Eyrezer 23:31, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
There should be more sources and references. Vision of the Future is mentioned in the BTS section, yet it is not sourced.--ID-21 Dolphin 23:43, September 15, 2010 (UTC)- To contest that, there was no confirmed appearance of the boosqueak in VotF, and the statement itself is self-sourcing. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 23:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Per Soresu. It is a self-sourcing statement. --Eyrezer 01:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
- To contest that, there was no confirmed appearance of the boosqueak in VotF, and the statement itself is self-sourcing. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 23:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Prepare to be savaged...
Can you clarify the BTS note? It sounds like the Imperial agents were inspired by the in-game encyclopedia of Rebellion, but I'm guessing you mean that Zahn was inspired? ~ SavageBob 13:55, September 5, 2010 (UTC)- Removed... --Eyrezer 10:35, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
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