- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
Duuurga
- Nominated by: Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 23:37, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Ditto
(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
- Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
501st dogma(talk) 12:59, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
Object
- Ayrehead
Could you kill the redirects here as well please?Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:40, June 30, 2013 (UTC)- Done. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 09:26, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- 501st
"As a Hutt he was a hermaphrodite with a masculine personality." This says because he is a Hutt, he is male. Fix please.- Done.
- Wait, he chose to be male? Can Hutts do that? 501st dogma(talk) 14:46, July 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Yup, that's how Hutts work, but don't worry to much because of the below objection. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 01:27, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Wait, he chose to be male? Can Hutts do that? 501st dogma(talk) 14:46, July 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Done.
I would suggest mentioning in the BtS that the story was non-canon directly.501st dogma(talk) 14:19, July 2, 2013 (UTC)- Done. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 09:26, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Exiled Jedi
- Unless the story mentions Duuurga as having a masculine personality, I do not think you can assume it based of Durga since Hutts can change from a male to a female personality.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 22:26, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 01:27, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
- "While the original Durga chose to have a masculine personality during his life..." This needs to be sourced.--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 13:20, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- "While the original Durga chose to have a masculine personality during his life..." This needs to be sourced.--Exiled Jedi
- Done. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 01:27, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Unless the story mentions Duuurga as having a masculine personality, I do not think you can assume it based of Durga since Hutts can change from a male to a female personality.--Exiled Jedi
- Naru
- Just reprinting the timeline additions that need to be made, from Duurga's nomination:
- The source, Durga, died in 12 ABY, per Darksaber. This may be best handled as a BTS note.
- Duurga, the first clone because of the one extra "u," was alive after Durga's death in 12 ABY, so the article needs to mention that date explicitly somehow.
Chewbaaca was born during or after 25 ABY, in the wake of the Battle of Sernpidal. At this point, Duurga and Duuurga were definitely alive. That means his birth year has a definite latest point, "during or after 25 BBY." "Circa" would probably work, too.- Sometime during or after 25 ABY, Chewbaaca tore off Duurga's arm.
- In 44 ABY, when Luuke wrote "An Apology," Duuurga was alive
and he would thereby be alive at the start of the unending series, Son of Clone Wars, so that needs describing in his BTS.NaruHina Talk
20:32, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
- The year 44 ABY needs mentioning in the body, as well, since we know he was alive then. NaruHina Talk
01:26, July 25, 2013 (UTC) - Had a go at them. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 09:14, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Good job, adding what you did. I shouldn't have just copy/pasted. It wasn't giving you a good enough picture of what was needed. My bad. ^^' I think you need to take your implementation of each of these another step further. What follows are some more things I noticed while going through "Duuurga" specifically. NaruHina Talk
01:26, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
- Good job, adding what you did. I shouldn't have just copy/pasted. It wasn't giving you a good enough picture of what was needed. My bad. ^^' I think you need to take your implementation of each of these another step further. What follows are some more things I noticed while going through "Duuurga" specifically. NaruHina Talk
- The year 44 ABY needs mentioning in the body, as well, since we know he was alive then. NaruHina Talk
- "Duuurga was the second clone…" Needs a ref explaining the naming convention.
- "Cloned from samples of the original Hutt collected by Luuke Skywalker, a clone of Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker, who had died in 9 ABY, Duuurga was created in place of Durga's first clone, Duurga." Same kinda thing that Duurga had: an appositive within an appositive. It needs a little breaking up somewhere.
- "…Duuurga was created in place of Durga's first clone, Duurga." Yet Duuurga had to have lived in tandem with Duurga, and he was created before Duuurga's arm was torn off, so we can't assume that he was a replacement.
- "After Duuurga was cloned, Thrawn did not let Chewbaaca near him." Duuurga had to be alive before Duurga had his arm ripped off, so could you rephrase this?
- "As a Hutt he was a hermaphrodite but had chosen a masculine personality." Any reason for saying Duuurga definitely picked being a male? We don't have a canonical source in which he appeared on which to base that.
- Do you want the commas to be within the quotation marks or outside when referring to " 'An Apology?' " It's not precisely important which way it's done, but it's got to be consistent in every use. I don't want to make the decision for you.
- Just reprinting the timeline additions that need to be made, from Duurga's nomination:
- Winterz
Comments
- Just wanted to leave a small warning here. CC-8, you have objections that haven't been complied or even replied for over 2 weeks. Winterz (talk) 12:06, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm aware of that. I'm just gonna archive it now. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 00:34, August 10, 2013 (UTC)