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Doisey bird
- Nominated by: JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 01:56, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Dentface (talk) 02:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
—spookywillowwtalk 02:03, 12 December 2022 (UTC)- You are really pushing it with the title not showing up until the very end :P Fan26 (Talk) 20:08, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- why did i read this article like it was a prompt on Jeopardy lol BloodOfIrizi
(talk) 01:33, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his)
21:41, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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Spooky
I'm not a terribly huge fan of the first mention to bird as the doisey bird's type being introduced in the BtS. It feels infobox exclusive since it's not in the in-universe prose portion, though was unsure how to slip it in with the current wording.—spookywillowwtalk 01:33, 11 December 2022 (UTC)- I see what you're saying, but I would argue that the term "doisey bird" being in the body is it being in IU prose. Sure, I could instead open the article with "A doisey bird was a bird...", but that's jusy not a very interesting sentence. I similarly did this on roast greeg pie. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 23:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough.—spookywillowwtalk 02:03, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- I see what you're saying, but I would argue that the term "doisey bird" being in the body is it being in IU prose. Sure, I could instead open the article with "A doisey bird was a bird...", but that's jusy not a very interesting sentence. I similarly did this on roast greeg pie. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 23:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Manoof
Could we introduce Doisey bird earlier in the article, preferably the opening sentence. One suggestion could be "A Doisey bird were edible birds that could be roasted before being cut into smaller pieces for eating..." Manoof (he/him/his)
10:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)- I think that's unneeded, it would be a little redundant to the rest of the article. As it is, the body is just one sentence, so it is in the opening sentence.
- I'm gonna have to stick to this one about introducing the subject of the article earlier and more pointedly such as in my example, though of course it doesn't need to use the same wording. Remove the bolding and this doesn't read like the article is about Doisey birds, rather it reads that it is about this specific situation, almost as if this was plucked out of another article and doisey bird was bolded. Since the rest of the article is the same sentence, surely rewording the article would also remove that redundancy? Manoof (he/him/his)
08:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'm gonna have to stick to this one about introducing the subject of the article earlier and more pointedly such as in my example, though of course it doesn't need to use the same wording. Remove the bolding and this doesn't read like the article is about Doisey birds, rather it reads that it is about this specific situation, almost as if this was plucked out of another article and doisey bird was bolded. Since the rest of the article is the same sentence, surely rewording the article would also remove that redundancy? Manoof (he/him/his)
- I think that's unneeded, it would be a little redundant to the rest of the article. As it is, the body is just one sentence, so it is in the opening sentence.
"roasted Doisey bird" should be a food article Manoof (he/him/his)
10:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)- I'm going to disagree - the source mentions "a roasted doisey bird" and not just "roasted doisey bird," meaning that it's talking about a doisey bird that had been roasted as opposed to a dish called "roasted doisey bird.
- Good point Manoof (he/him/his)
08:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Good point Manoof (he/him/his)
- I'm going to disagree - the source mentions "a roasted doisey bird" and not just "roasted doisey bird," meaning that it's talking about a doisey bird that had been roasted as opposed to a dish called "roasted doisey bird.
BTS wording needs a tweak as there are multiple books in the series released in 03. Manoof (he/him/his)
10:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)- It already specifies that it's the series' sixth entry, so it can't be confused with another 2003 entry. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:51, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, but the wording incorrectly implies that it is the only one released that year. Manoof (he/him/his)
08:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- I don't agree that "2003 sixth entry" implies there weren't any other entries that year, but changed. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:27, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, but the wording incorrectly implies that it is the only one released that year. Manoof (he/him/his)
- It already specifies that it's the series' sixth entry, so it can't be confused with another 2003 entry. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:51, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 21:42, 25 December 2022 (UTC)