[07:00:02] Toprawa: Ok, welcome to AC meeting 18. [07:00:17] Toprawa: This should be pretty quick and painless with our reduced attendance, so let's get this underway. [07:00:25] Toprawa: First up, Meeting 17's probed articles. [07:00:34] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aaron [07:00:39] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Aaron [07:01:02] Toprawa: Keep from all the absentee people. [07:01:05] ChackJadson: Keep [07:01:05] GrandMoffTranner: Keep. [07:01:08] Toprawa: Keep. [07:01:11] Toprawa: Aaron kept. [07:01:23] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucia [07:01:27] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Lucia [07:01:39] Toprawa: Jugs claims updation. [07:01:43] Toprawa: Keep from all the absentees. [07:01:54] ChackJadson: Keep [07:01:57] GrandMoffTranner: Hold on - there's something in the infobox lacking a reference. [07:02:18] Toprawa: I suppose those should be linked to. [07:02:23] Toprawa: I'm sure we can convince Jugs to handle them. [07:02:33] Toprawa: Make a note of it and keep? [07:02:37] ChackJadson: That is a real easy fix [07:02:45] GrandMoffTranner: Yes, keep, provided Juicy fixes it. [07:02:47] Toprawa: too* [07:02:49] ChackJadson: Yeah, tell him about it [07:02:52] Toprawa: Ok [07:02:54] Toprawa: Lucia kept, provisionally [07:03:02] Toprawa: Moving on to new articles. [07:03:07] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Myneyrsh [07:03:11] Toprawa: Myneyrsh - Apparently needs updating. [07:03:26] Toprawa: needs a BTS too [07:03:28] GrandMoffTranner: Yep, it does. Probe. [07:03:30] ChackJadson: Probe [07:03:39] Toprawa: Probe. [07:03:50] Toprawa: Probed from all absentees. [07:03:54] Toprawa: Myneyrsh probed. [07:04:03] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Utapau [07:04:07] Toprawa: Battle of Utapau - would benefit from a major expansion, at least in the intro. Also needs clearer sectioning; there isn't a lot of reason for the duel to take place in the Prelude. CC7567 (talk) 21:37, January 2, 2010 (UTC) [07:04:21] Toprawa: Probe from all absentees. [07:04:25] GrandMoffTranner: Probe. [07:04:36] ChackJadson: Probe [07:04:39] Toprawa: The whole thing does look like a major expansion is in order. [07:04:42] Toprawa: Probe. [07:04:45] Toprawa: Battle of Utapau probed. [07:04:46] ChackJadson: It is in poor shape [07:04:52] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tactical_droid_1_(Christophsis) [07:04:58] Toprawa: Tactical droid 1 (Christophsis) - Apparently received a real name? Could use CC's verification and clean up/updating. [07:05:11] Toprawa: Absentees vote probe. [07:05:11] ChackJadson: Well, where did it get the name? [07:05:17] ChackJadson: Either of you know that? [07:05:26] Toprawa: I'm not sure. [07:05:37] GrandMoffTranner: Well, it's referenced to Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The Complete Season One. [07:05:45] Toprawa: I asked CC to look into it, and we came to this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tactical_droid_1_(Christophsis) [07:05:45] ChackJadson: Yeah [07:05:48] ChackJadson: Probe [07:05:49] GrandMoffTranner: But I wonder why nothing else was done. [07:05:52] Toprawa: apparently it's on the BluRay? [07:06:06] ChackJadson: Huh [07:06:10] Toprawa: I believe it's there, anyway. [07:06:16] Toprawa: Probe. [07:06:26] Toprawa: All absentees vote probed [07:06:26] GrandMoffTranner: Yeah, probe. [07:06:36] Toprawa: Tactical droid 1 (Christophsis) probed. [07:06:48] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Most_Honourable_Guild_of_Armourers [07:06:53] Toprawa: The Most Honourable Guild of Armourers—Real minor (I mean, we shouldn't have to probe for this alone), but this article should have a mention in the body of the nickname Armorer's Guild and a ref for it. If any of you know the source for this (or anyone who sees this, for that matter), feel take care of this. [07:07:04] Toprawa: Absentees vote probe. [07:07:19] ChackJadson: I didn't read through it, but it is missing that one thing [07:07:28] Toprawa: Can you clarify this for me? [07:07:32] Toprawa: What is the missing nickname? [07:07:40] GrandMoffTranner: I wonder if this has an entry in the CSWE.\ [07:07:41] ChackJadson: Armorer's Guild [07:07:48] ChackJadson: Is Imperial Era OOU? [07:07:54] Toprawa: oh, I see [07:08:00] ChackJadson: Only in the intro [07:08:05] Toprawa: No. [07:08:08] ChackJadson: Oh [07:08:09] Toprawa: "Imperial Period" is canon. [07:08:13] Toprawa: "Rise of the Empire era" is OOU [07:08:18] ChackJadson: Ah, that's it [07:08:28] Toprawa: ok, I can probe, then [07:08:35] ChackJadson: Probe, I guess [07:08:37] GrandMoffTranner: Yeah, probe. [07:08:49] Toprawa: Guild of Armourers probed. [07:08:55] Toprawa: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/K%27Kruhk [07:09:01] Toprawa: K'Kruhk - severe underlinking, speculation, lack of context (even by the "acceptable" standards), bad sectioning (capitals can only be used if it's properly named), and possibly more than that. I'm almost certain that the measly P&T and P&A can be expanded as well. Could benefit from a major copyedit and expansion in general. Also, someone needs to explain why exactly the Bts fluff about his... [07:09:02] Toprawa: ..."cult" and "hat" should be allowed to stay. [07:09:04] ChackJadson: Probe [07:09:11] Toprawa: Here are absentee comments, for the record: [07:09:19] Toprawa: Also probe K'Kruhk, however, I think the information about his "cult" and "hat" should stay as I think information on widely known fan activity on an article's subject should deserve a mention. The information needs to be rewritten, however. - Grunny [07:09:28] Toprawa: Jugs concurs with Grunny [07:09:32] ChackJadson: Per Grunny [07:09:33] GrandMoffTranner: Probe. [07:09:58] Toprawa: Per CC on the expansion and overhaul, and per Grunny on the BTS. [07:10:09] Toprawa: Making a mention of it is fair enough, I figure [07:10:13] Toprawa: K'Kruhk probed. [07:10:23] Toprawa: Ok, moving on to discussion items. [07:10:32] Toprawa: Rather minor, but can we clarify the usage of the "Unidentified" section on the GA page? It's been working since its introduction at Meeting Thirteen, but right now, the only articles under there are those with "unidentified" in their name—and that doesn't extend to conjecturally titled articles such as Resolute naval officer and Bodo Baas's Master that were not named with "unidentified."... [07:10:34] Toprawa: ...Can we either decide to only use the Unidentified section for articles with "unidentified" in their names (it'll require no change, just further clarification) or just use it for all of the unnamed characters (which would separate the canonically named characters from those that are not)? CC7567 (talk) 01:14, January 4, 2010 (UTC) [07:10:40] Toprawa: Absentee comments: [07:10:41] ChackJadson: Support second proposal [07:11:00] Toprawa: Discussion item 1: I'm easy either way on whether to just use it for one's with "unidentified" in the title or for all of them. I think it might be better to just put all conjecturally titled character articles in one place. [07:11:06] Toprawa: that's from Grunny [07:11:12] Toprawa: Discussion item 1: Also per Grunny here. I think it would perhaps be best if we just had a "Conjectural" heading. - Jugs [07:11:39] ChackJadson: Per Jon [07:11:42] GrandMoffTranner: For the record, I'm going to post what I left on the meeting page: "Personally I'd prefer it if all conjecturally-named GA's used "Unidentified" in their titles, for ease of organization, but Grunny's proposal sounds like it would work well. " [07:12:13] GrandMoffTranner: That being said, I support Grunny's proposal with Juicy's addition. [07:12:24] Toprawa: heh, this confusing :P [07:12:47] GrandMoffTranner: Doesn't that mean that we're doing our job? :p [07:12:58] Toprawa: Ok, outline this final proposal for us Tranner. [07:13:04] Toprawa: Convince me of what we're doing here :P [07:13:18] GrandMoffTranner: Wait, you mean what Grunny said? [07:13:58] GrandMoffTranner: Or are you referring to my "I'd prefer it if all conjecturally-named GA's used "Unidentified" in their titles" suggestion? [07:14:15] Toprawa: So organize all conjecturally-named articles under an "Unidentified" section? [07:14:21] Toprawa: Is this our official proposal? [07:14:33] GrandMoffTranner: Okay, now I'm confused. :p [07:14:36] Toprawa: This is for the sake of organizing on the page. [07:14:42] Toprawa: Don't worry about renaming articles right now [07:15:16] ChackJadson: Tope: I'd prefer the section titled "conjecture", but unidentified does work [07:15:21] Toprawa: If we're going to organize /all/ conjecture articles under one section, including [[Resolute naval officer]], I don't think "Unidentified" is appropriate anymore [07:15:27] Toprawa: Yes, per Chack [07:15:31] GrandMoffTranner: Yeah, per Chack. [07:15:59] Toprawa: So organize all under the "Conjecture" title, replacing "Unidentified"? [07:16:07] GrandMoffTranner: Yes. [07:16:23] Toprawa: Ok, that is our consensus then. [07:16:28] GrandMoffTranner: And then alphabetize then, correct? [07:16:32] Toprawa: Yes. [07:16:38] GrandMoffTranner: Alright, sounds good. [07:16:41] Toprawa: Let the GA page be reorganized as such. [07:16:47] Toprawa: Ok, next. [07:17:00] Toprawa: This proposal has since been given a new leg, so allow me to explain in full. [07:17:06] Toprawa: Discuss officially moving meeting day to Saturday. I'm hoping this might make it a little easier on everyone's schedules for everyone to attend. The original rationale was to hold meetings on Sundays rather than Saturdays in fear that the meeting might run into an Inqmoot on the same day, but our meetings only last 20 minutes anyways, so it wouldn't be a problem at all. We'll get everyone's... [07:17:08] Toprawa: ...thoughts and hold a vote. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC) [07:17:32] Toprawa: After speaking with Grunny and Cav, we agreed that regardless of what day we hold it on, Saturday or Sunday, inevitably one or two people won't be able to come. [07:17:53] Toprawa: So I suggested perhaps alternating Saturdays and Sundays every month. [07:17:55] Toprawa: Thoughts? [07:18:06] GrandMoffTranner: That sounds good. [07:18:30] Toprawa: Do we want to move it to only Saturday? [07:18:36] ChackJadson: I don't really care [07:18:37] Toprawa: I don't care, really [07:18:41] GrandMoffTranner: Ditto. :p [07:18:42] Toprawa: I can usually come either or [07:19:07] GrandMoffTranner: It would still be at 4 PM regardless of the day, correct? [07:19:10] Toprawa: Yes. [07:19:23] GrandMoffTranner: Cool. [07:19:27] Toprawa: Everyone seems willing enough to try this alternating thing, judging from the absentee comments. [07:19:32] Toprawa: So let's say we try this for a few meetings. [07:19:35] GrandMoffTranner: Yeah, either way would be fine with me. [07:19:45] Toprawa: We'll hold next meeting on Saturday and see how that works for starters. [07:20:28] Toprawa: Ok, if anyone else has anything, please speak up. [07:20:37] GrandMoffTranner: Nothing from the Moffship. [07:20:59] ChackJadson: Me has nothing [07:21:25] Toprawa: Did we check the GA cleanup page? [07:21:28] Toprawa: There was nothing on there? [07:22:06] GrandMoffTranner: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/GA_maintenance [07:22:16] ChackJadson: Nothing neqw [07:22:18] GrandMoffTranner: Nothing else. [07:22:22] Toprawa: Ok, cool. [07:22:24] Toprawa: That does it, then. [07:22:31] Toprawa: Grunny has already volunteered for paperwork. [07:22:32] GrandMoffTranner: If that's all, I have to get going. Got to study for midterms... [07:22:42] Toprawa: Meeting adjourned.