Sep 12 21:53:05 <Toprawa> Welcome to AC Meeting 132.
Sep 12 21:54:46 <Toprawa> Probed articles from Meeting 131
Sep 12 21:54:50 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_Prison
Sep 12 21:54:57 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Planet_Prison
Sep 12 21:55:01 <Toprawa> No changes
Sep 12 21:55:07 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:55:19 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:55:26 <Toprawa> I'm counting Ayrehead's vote with Fred's to give us 4
Sep 12 21:55:28 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:55:32 <Toprawa> Planet Prison killed
Sep 12 21:55:43 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/VCX-350_light_freighter
Sep 12 21:55:48 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/VCX-350_light_freighter
Sep 12 21:55:54 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:55:55 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:55:57 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:56:00 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:56:04 <Toprawa> VCX-350 light freighter killed
Sep 12 21:56:07 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rokak%27k
Sep 12 21:56:11 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Rokak%27k
Sep 12 21:56:12 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:56:14 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:56:15 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:56:20 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:56:24 <Toprawa> Rokakk killed
Sep 12 21:56:28 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Grunda_Dolma
Sep 12 21:56:32 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Grunda_Dolma
Sep 12 21:56:33 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:56:34 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:56:35 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:56:39 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:56:42 <Toprawa> Grunda Dolma killed
Sep 12 21:56:47 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Guybrush_Threepkiller
Sep 12 21:56:51 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Guybrush_Threepkiller
Sep 12 21:56:52 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:56:55 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:56:57 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:56:58 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:57:04 <Toprawa> Guybrush Threepkilled
Sep 12 21:57:11 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Bith_scientist
Sep 12 21:57:15 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Unidentified_Bith_scientist
Sep 12 21:57:19 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:57:20 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:57:21 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:57:26 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:57:30 <Toprawa> Unidentified Bith scientist killed
Sep 12 21:57:34 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dams_Denna
Sep 12 21:57:38 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Dams_Denna
Sep 12 21:57:39 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:57:40 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:57:41 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:57:46 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:57:49 <Toprawa> Dams Denna killed
Sep 12 21:57:52 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gantu
Sep 12 21:57:56 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Gantu
Sep 12 21:57:59 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:58:01 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:58:01 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:58:08 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:58:09 <Toprawa> Gantu killed
Sep 12 21:58:13 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Imperial_II-class_Star_Destroyer_(asteroid_collision)
Sep 12 21:58:16 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Unidentified_Imperial_II-class_Star_Destroyer_(asteroid_collision)
Sep 12 21:58:20 <Toprawa> No change
Sep 12 21:58:21 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 21:58:22 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:58:28 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 21:58:31 <Toprawa> Unidentified Star Destroyer killed
Sep 12 21:58:35 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nacronis
Sep 12 21:58:38 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Nacronis
Sep 12 21:58:41 <Toprawa> Zed says updated
Sep 12 21:58:42 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill
Sep 12 21:58:45 <Tommy-Macaroni> oop
Sep 12 21:58:45 <Tommy-Macaroni> no
Sep 12 21:58:48 <MasterFred> XD
Sep 12 21:59:02 <Toprawa> Just noting that he expanded five of the I believe eight paragraphs of the article body
Sep 12 21:59:10 <Toprawa> To me that looks like a Redux
Sep 12 21:59:21 <MasterFred> Yeah, I remembering seeing it as a large addition.
Sep 12 21:59:22 <MasterFred> Def redux
Sep 12 21:59:24 <Tommy-Macaroni> https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?title=Nacronis&diff=9394720&oldid=9353010
Sep 12 21:59:28 <Tommy-Macaroni> This is significant
Sep 12 21:59:30 <Tommy-Macaroni> Redux
Sep 12 21:59:33 <Toprawa> Redux
Sep 12 21:59:40 <Toprawa> Nacronis Reduxed
Sep 12 21:59:47 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Eron_(soldier)
Sep 12 21:59:52 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Eron_(soldier)
Sep 12 21:59:59 <Toprawa> Seemingly left out of Meeting 131?
Sep 12 22:00:02 <Toprawa> I'm not sure what happened
Sep 12 22:00:11 <Toprawa> But no change
Sep 12 22:00:17 <Tommy-Macaroni> Me neither, I just spotted it in the category
Sep 12 22:00:19 <Tommy-Macaroni> Kill
Sep 12 22:00:19 <MasterFred> kill
Sep 12 22:00:20 <Toprawa> Kill
Sep 12 22:00:23 <Toprawa> Eron (soldier) killed
Sep 12 22:00:27 <Toprawa> That's all for those
Sep 12 22:00:30 <Toprawa> Moving on to new articles
Sep 12 22:00:38 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ralltiir
Sep 12 22:00:41 <Toprawa> Update needed
Sep 12 22:00:52 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Sep 12 22:00:54 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:01:02 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:01:07 <Toprawa> Ralltiir probed
Sep 12 22:01:10 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dreadnought-class_heavy_cruiser
Sep 12 22:01:14 <Toprawa> Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser — 1872 words by my count; FAN has recently failed. Tommy-Macaroni 07:42, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:01:18 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:01:21 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:01:29 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:01:31 <Toprawa> Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser probed
Sep 12 22:01:34 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_species_(Imperial_torching)
Sep 12 22:01:38 <Toprawa> Unidentified species (Imperial torching) - 94 words in article body. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:41, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:01:41 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:01:44 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:01:49 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:01:53 <Toprawa> Unidentified species (Imperial torching) probed
Sep 12 22:01:58 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Hand_of_Thrawn
Sep 12 22:02:02 <Toprawa> ABY dates are not referenced correctly
Sep 12 22:02:02 <Toprawa> The History section would benefit from the introduction of subsectioning
Sep 12 22:02:02 <Toprawa> Additionally, the image and the narrow width of the margins creates an unattractively large paragraph for the first History paragraph. That should be broken up.
Sep 12 22:02:02 <Toprawa> If the article must use an image of Thrawn in the History section, a more description caption than just "Grand Admiral Thrawn" is preferred. The caption should tie the image to the article subject.
Sep 12 22:02:03 <Toprawa> Nothing in the BTS after the first sentence is necessary. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:53, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:02:12 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:02:13 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:02:13 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:02:17 <Toprawa> The Hand of Thrawn probed
Sep 12 22:02:22 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Combined_Clans_Center_Building
Sep 12 22:02:28 <Toprawa> The double ref note in the infobox Destroyed field is unnecessary. Either source it all to one thing, or break up the ref notes according to individual pieces of information
Sep 12 22:02:28 <Toprawa> Link in quote should be removed per Manual of Style
Sep 12 22:02:28 <Toprawa> The History section would benefit from the introduction of subsectioning. Two subsections of two paragraphs each would look nice. Another quote could also then be added if available.
Sep 12 22:02:28 <Toprawa> The BTS should be rewritten to avoid the unnecessary second sentence. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:01, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:02:35 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:02:35 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:02:45 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:02:47 <Toprawa> Combined Clans Center Building probed
Sep 12 22:02:48 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Resolute_naval_officer_(Battle_of_Ryloth)
Sep 12 22:02:53 <Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information.
Sep 12 22:02:53 <Toprawa> Homeworld and physical traits require a separate note.
Sep 12 22:02:53 <Toprawa> Last sentence of BTS feels really unnecessary and somewhat speculatory as this information doesn't appear to be in the source.
Sep 12 22:02:53 <Toprawa> Ref 3 needs a source that actually mentions the character.
Sep 12 22:02:53 <Toprawa> {{Mediacat}} can be added.
Sep 12 22:02:57 <Toprawa> Episode air date missing. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan (talk) 20:12, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:02:59 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:03:01 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:03:01 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:03:04 <Toprawa> Unidentified Resolute naval officer probed
Sep 12 22:03:06 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nebo
Sep 12 22:03:11 <Toprawa> Digitize comic image
Sep 12 22:03:11 <Toprawa> The Bio has room for another image. Is there nothing else that can be put there?
Sep 12 22:03:11 <Toprawa> Some underlinking
Sep 12 22:03:11 <Toprawa> BBY dates can't be sourced straight to TOTJ comics
Sep 12 22:03:13 <Toprawa> The BTS should be rewritten to focus more specifically on his single appearance; the overall story arc really isn't that relevant. Full publication date for first comic appearance also.
Sep 12 22:03:16 <Toprawa> Use CSWECite for ref 2. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:59, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:03:17 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:03:18 <Toprawa> Intro could definitely use a paragraph break, though I think the better option would be to just reduce its size and detail to one paragraph. A two-paragraph intro is a bit much for an article with three Bio paragraphs. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:02, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:03:22 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:03:22 <Tommy-Macaroni> oop
Sep 12 22:03:24 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:03:32 <Tommy-Macaroni> still probe :P
Sep 12 22:03:33 <Toprawa> Nebo probed
Sep 12 22:03:34 <MasterFred> I almost did the same when I saw Tope's sig, Tommy. haha
Sep 12 22:03:45 <Tommy-Macaroni> Too eager :P
Sep 12 22:03:50 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Droxine
Sep 12 22:03:56 <Toprawa> This revision added info from an Old Republic crew skill mission. The actual mission description in-game mentions "government officials" assembling a team to track this "Fist of Justice", making no mention of either the Republic or Sith Empire or Droxine.
Sep 12 22:03:56 <Toprawa> Additionally, the BBY date naturally cannot be cited to TOR
Sep 12 22:03:56 <Toprawa> Human/Legends is linked to twice in the body. Fan26 (Talk) 13:20, August 22, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:04:01 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:04:03 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:04:09 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:04:14 <Toprawa> Droxine probed
Sep 12 22:04:15 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ordo_Skirata
Sep 12 22:04:21 <Toprawa> Article is way over the word count.
Sep 12 22:04:21 <Toprawa> Needs better formatting: more section breaks and more paragraph breaks.
Sep 12 22:04:21 <Toprawa> Needs more images.
Sep 12 22:04:21 <Toprawa> Duplicate links
Sep 12 22:04:21 <Toprawa> "Skills and abilities" section looks extremely short
Sep 12 22:04:21 <Toprawa> Bts can be expanded as well
Sep 12 22:04:25 <Toprawa> Needs an Equipment section
Sep 12 22:04:27 <Toprawa> Referencing needs to be cleaned up in terms of missing and redundant links
Sep 12 22:04:29 <Toprawa> Infobox exclusive information (birth date, height, hair color, eye color, skin color)
Sep 12 22:04:31 <Toprawa> Birth date can't be sourced directly Republic Commando: Triple Zero without a manual ref note. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:37, August 28, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:04:34 <Toprawa> Also, both Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice and Legacy of the Force: Revelation have an abridged and an unabridged audiobook adaptation. Those need to be checked for a possible mention and added to appearances if applicable. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:03, August 30, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:04:38 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:04:40 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:04:42 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:04:58 <Toprawa> Ordo Skirata probed
Sep 12 22:05:05 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Booba_Fett
Sep 12 22:05:10 <Toprawa> Several of the references should be reworked to include the information cited within the article (e.g. physical traits should be specified within the notes)
Sep 12 22:05:10 <Toprawa> Per precedent, Ref 3 should begin with the DB entry.
Sep 12 22:05:10 <Toprawa> Ref 9 should implement {{SWBoards}}, followed by the explanation.
Sep 12 22:05:10 <Toprawa> Biography can use a paragraph break.
Sep 12 22:05:10 <Toprawa> Could use an Equipment section.
Sep 12 22:05:13 <Toprawa> Dates should be sourced to The Essential Reader's Companion, which should also be checked for a mention of the character.
Sep 12 22:05:15 <Toprawa> Seeing as "An Apology" is a short story, it should probably use a citation template of some sort as it is part of a larger work. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan (talk) 17:33, August 28, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:05:19 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:05:20 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:05:23 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:05:26 <Toprawa> Booba Fett probed
Sep 12 22:05:28 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Luuuke_Skywalker
Sep 12 22:05:33 <Toprawa> Many of the reference notes should include the information cited in the article.
Sep 12 22:05:33 <Toprawa> "An Apology" should probably be formatted with a citation template as it is a short story.
Sep 12 22:05:33 <Toprawa> Ref 2 should begin with the DB entry.
Sep 12 22:05:33 <Toprawa> Dates should be sourced to The Essential Reader's Companion, which should also be checked for a mention of the character.
Sep 12 22:05:35 <Toprawa> BTS could use a paragraph break.
Sep 12 22:05:37 <Toprawa> Much of the BTS is sourced to The Empire Strikes Back. This reference should probably be replaced with something else. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan (talk) 17:38, August 28, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:05:40 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:05:41 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:06:15 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:06:17 <Toprawa> Luuuke Skywalker probed
Sep 12 22:06:19 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Conduit_worm
Sep 12 22:06:24 <Toprawa> Conduit worm — This matter should be examined. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:52, September 4, 2020 (UTC)
Sep 12 22:06:29 <Toprawa> This matter: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Conduit_worm?curid=471962&diff=9362648&oldid=9096779
Sep 12 22:06:35 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:06:36 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:06:51 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:06:56 <Toprawa> Conduit worm probed
Sep 12 22:07:08 <Toprawa> We have a few articles in the bin needing updates I thought we could add on
Sep 12 22:07:22 <Tommy-Macaroni> Sure
Sep 12 22:07:27 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/C2-B5
Sep 12 22:07:36 <Tommy-Macaroni> Probe
Sep 12 22:07:45 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:07:49 <MasterFred> Less do itttt
Sep 12 22:07:55 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:08:04 <MasterFred> Sorry
Sep 12 22:08:05 <Toprawa> C2-B5 probed
Sep 12 22:08:10 <Toprawa> Rigosso's update is not a month old yet
Sep 12 22:08:10 <MasterFred> Things are weird and delayed on my end, but I think I'm back to normal.
Sep 12 22:08:17 <MasterFred> IRCcloud had issues for a sec
Sep 12 22:08:25 <Toprawa> But this one is https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chief_gunnery_officer/Legends
Sep 12 22:08:30 <Toprawa> Probe
Sep 12 22:08:37 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe
Sep 12 22:08:43 <MasterFred> Probe
Sep 12 22:08:47 <Toprawa> Chief gunner officer/Legends probed
Sep 12 22:08:54 <Toprawa> That's all for those
Sep 12 22:09:02 <Toprawa> Anyone want to talk?
Sep 12 22:09:13 <Tommy-Macaroni> Nah, I have nothing
Sep 12 22:09:22 <MasterFred> Nothing from me
Sep 12 22:09:29 <Toprawa> Then Imperators is on meeting duties
Sep 12 22:09:32 <Toprawa> That concludes today's meeting
Sep 12 22:09:34 <Toprawa> Thank you for coming