[23:00:04] <Toprawa> AC Meeting 122 will commence. [23:00:10] <Toprawa> Welcome. [23:00:21] <Toprawa> I would like to begin with the discussion item. [23:00:45] <Toprawa> We recently discussed the need to add a new GAN rule similar to CAN Rule 13. [23:01:02] <Toprawa> Which reads: [23:01:07] <Toprawa> …provide an introduction if it reaches 165 words, not counting the "Behind the scenes" section. Conversely, an article may not have an introduction if it is less than 165 words, not counting the "Behind the scenes" section. [23:01:28] <Toprawa> We do get the occasional GAN that has less than 165 words in the article body [23:01:50] <Toprawa> So it follows that we should enact a similar rule for GAN [23:02:02] <MasterFred> I was responsible for a couple. :P [23:02:13] <Toprawa> To illustrate what we came up with, Anil created this flow chart https://ibb.co/jDcPxHD [23:02:24] <Toprawa> And these would be the two proposed rules: [23:02:39] <Toprawa> Rule 1: Articles must be 250 words, including BTS; and at least 165 words in the article body [23:02:50] <Toprawa> Rule 2: Articles must have an intro and body sectioning, not including the BTS [23:03:16] <Toprawa> Rule 2 reflects the rule we adopted a few meetings ago, which was never added to the rule list due to some procedural concerns that were ironed out at the Mofference [23:03:41] <Toprawa> Questions, comments? [23:03:53] <Tommy-Macaroni> Nice job, both of you [23:03:57] <Tommy-Macaroni> Makes total sense [23:04:17] <MasterFred> I'm for one glad we'll finally have concrete numbers instead of going off feelings. :P [23:04:24] <exiledjedi> So, if an article has more than 250 words in the BTS, but not enough words for an intro, what happens to it? [23:04:41] <AnilSerifoglu> Goes to CAN [23:04:42] <Toprawa> EJ> It is not eligible for GAN [23:04:50] <Toprawa> Anil and Fred both had noms like that recently [23:04:55] <Toprawa> Which is what predicated the creation of Rule 2 [23:05:19] <exiledjedi> Is it eligible for CAN? Seems like it should be eligible somewhere. [23:05:28] <Toprawa> Yes, it goes to CAN, as Anil said [23:05:50] <exiledjedi> Ah, missed that message. [23:05:55] <exiledjedi> Okay, this makes sense to me. [23:06:01] <exiledjedi> Sounds good. [23:06:27] <Toprawa> Ok, let us vote, then [23:06:31] <Toprawa> Please say Support or Oppose [23:06:37] <exiledjedi> Support [23:06:37] <AnilSerifoglu> Support [23:06:37] <MasterFred> Support [23:06:37] <Tommy-Macaroni> support [23:06:38] <Toprawa> Support [23:06:47] <Toprawa> Including the absentee votes, this measure passes unanimously [23:06:53] <Toprawa> Now into the articles [23:07:10] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nadaa [23:07:15] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Nadaa [23:07:19] <Toprawa> No change [23:07:20] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:07:23] <MasterFred> Kill [23:07:25] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:07:28] <Toprawa> Kill [23:07:37] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:07:43] <Toprawa> Nadaa killed [23:07:59] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mallohe [23:08:02] <Toprawa> v [23:08:03] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Mallohe [23:08:11] <Toprawa> No change [23:08:12] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:08:14] <MasterFred> Kill [23:08:14] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:08:14] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:08:18] <Toprawa> Kill [23:08:21] <Toprawa> Mallohe killed [23:08:24] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Orland [23:08:28] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Orland [23:08:31] <Toprawa> No change [23:08:33] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:08:36] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:08:37] <Toprawa> Kill [23:08:41] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:08:45] <MasterFred> Kill [23:08:47] <Toprawa> Orland killed [23:08:50] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Piard [23:08:53] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Piard [23:08:57] <Toprawa> No change [23:08:58] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:09:00] <MasterFred> Kill [23:09:03] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:09:03] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:09:08] <Toprawa> Kill [23:09:10] <Toprawa> Piard killed [23:09:13] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lien-Tsai_Qel-Droma [23:09:16] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Lien-Tsai_Qel-Droma [23:09:17] <Toprawa> No change [23:09:18] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:09:23] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:09:23] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:09:24] <MasterFred> Kill [23:09:26] <Toprawa> Kill [23:09:31] <Toprawa> Lien-Tsai Qel-Droma killed [23:09:34] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rebel_Friend [23:09:37] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Rebel_Friend [23:09:38] <Toprawa> No change [23:09:39] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:09:44] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:09:45] <Toprawa> Kill [23:09:46] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:09:48] <MasterFred> Kill [23:09:52] <Toprawa> Rebel Friend killed [23:09:56] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Joc_Sah [23:10:00] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Joc_Sah [23:10:04] <Toprawa> No change [23:10:04] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:10:05] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:10:08] <MasterFred> Kill [23:10:11] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:10:13] <Toprawa> Kill [23:10:15] <Toprawa> Joc Sah killed [23:10:18] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Taggart_(Senate_Guard)/Legends [23:10:21] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Taggart_(Senate_Guard)/Legends [23:10:24] <Toprawa> No change [23:10:25] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:10:27] <MasterFred> Kill [23:10:28] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:10:30] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:10:33] <Toprawa> Kill [23:10:39] <Toprawa> Taggart (Senate Guard)/Legends killed [23:10:42] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Oo_Wen [23:10:45] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Oo_Wen [23:10:47] <Toprawa> No change [23:10:48] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:10:50] <MasterFred> Kill [23:10:51] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:10:56] <Toprawa> Kill [23:11:01] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:11:03] <Toprawa> Oo Wen killed [23:11:04] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yennir_of_the_Green [23:11:08] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Yennir_of_the_Green [23:11:09] <Toprawa> No change [23:11:09] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:11:11] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:11:14] <MasterFred> Kill [23:11:15] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:11:17] <Toprawa> Kill [23:11:20] <Toprawa> Yennir of the Green killed [23:11:23] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/S%27yito [23:11:27] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/S%27yito [23:11:34] <Toprawa> No change [23:11:35] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:11:37] <MasterFred> Kill [23:11:38] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:11:38] <Toprawa> Kill [23:11:38] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:11:41] <Toprawa> S'yito killed [23:11:48] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yeb_Yeb_Adem%27thorn [23:11:53] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Yeb_Yeb_Adem%27thorn [23:11:56] <Toprawa> No change [23:11:58] <Tommy-Macaroni> kill [23:11:58] <AnilSerifoglu> Kill [23:11:59] <Toprawa> Kill [23:12:01] <MasterFred> Kill [23:12:10] <exiledjedi> Kill [23:12:11] <Toprawa> Yeb Yeb Adem'thorn killed [23:12:18] <Toprawa> Moving on to the main course [23:12:24] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sith_armada_(Lost_Tribe_of_the_Sith) [23:12:27] <Tommy-Macaroni> yum [23:12:32] <Toprawa> Sith armada (Lost Tribe of the Sith) – Article is 3,192 words long, by my count. As a reminder, such GAs are no longer grandfathered in, as of Meeting 120. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:55, November 5, 2019 (UTC) [23:12:46] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:12:47] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:12:49] <Toprawa> Probe [23:12:50] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:12:58] <MasterFred> Oof Probe [23:13:05] <Toprawa> Sith armada (Lost Tribe of the Sith) probed [23:13:14] <Toprawa> For the rest, please refer to the meeting page for probation reasons [23:13:22] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Qiraash/Legends [23:13:26] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:13:26] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:13:29] <Toprawa> Probe [23:13:34] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:13:36] <MasterFred> Probe [23:13:37] <Toprawa> Qiraash/Legends probed [23:13:44] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Fw%27Sen [23:13:46] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:13:47] <Toprawa> Probe [23:13:49] <MasterFred> Probe [23:13:50] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:13:52] <Tommy-Macaroni> prob [23:13:54] <Toprawa> Fw'Sen probed [23:14:02] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hafa [23:14:03] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:14:04] <MasterFred> Probe [23:14:05] <Toprawa> Probe [23:14:08] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:14:17] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:14:19] <Toprawa> Hafa probed [23:14:21] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Krath_Enchanter [23:14:28] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:14:31] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:14:32] <MasterFred> Probe [23:14:34] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:14:35] <Toprawa> Probe [23:14:40] <Toprawa> Krath Enchanter probed [23:14:47] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aefan [23:14:49] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:14:53] <Toprawa> Probe [23:14:53] <MasterFred> Probe [23:14:55] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:15:11] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:15:17] <Toprawa> Aefan probed [23:15:21] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Agee [23:15:23] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:15:24] <MasterFred> Probe [23:15:26] <Tommy-Macaroni> pribe [23:15:28] <Toprawa> Probe [23:15:33] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:15:35] <Toprawa> Agee probed [23:15:36] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chortose_(species) [23:15:41] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:15:43] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:15:45] <Toprawa> Probe [23:15:47] <MasterFred> Probe [23:15:50] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:15:52] <Toprawa> Chortose (species) probed [23:15:53] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Delphanian [23:15:55] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:15:59] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:16:00] <Toprawa> Probe [23:16:03] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:16:07] <MasterFred> Probe [23:16:09] <Toprawa> Delphanian probed [23:16:10] <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ecorb [23:16:15] <Tommy-Macaroni> probe [23:16:17] <MasterFred> Probe [23:16:18] <Toprawa> Probe [23:16:22] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [23:16:26] <exiledjedi> Probe [23:16:32] <Toprawa> Ecorb probed [23:16:35] <Toprawa> Nothing else is in the bin [23:16:38] <Toprawa> Anyone need to add anything? [23:16:44] <Tommy-Macaroni> Not from me [23:16:47] <Toprawa> Articles or discussion items? [23:16:48] <MasterFred> I'm good [23:16:48] <AnilSerifoglu> Nope [23:16:59] <Tommy-Macaroni> nah [23:17:01] <exiledjedi> I don't have anything. [23:17:16] <Toprawa> In that case, Anil is on meeting duties this time [23:17:24] <Toprawa> Meeting 122 is hereby concluded. Happy Thanksgiving. [23:17:26] <exiledjedi> Thanks for hosting. [23:17:32] <AnilSerifoglu> Thanks for hosting, sir [23:17:33] <Tommy-Macaroni> Excellent. Thanks for hosting Tope [23:17:40] <Toprawa> No problem. Thanks for coming. [23:17:41] <MasterFred> Thanks for hosting, and happy Thanksgiving to you. :D