[20:03:32] <SimToprawa> Welcome to Meeting 77.
[20:03:43] <SimToprawa> Jonathan requested entry to present his thing
[20:03:47] <SimToprawa> So we'll just go right to that
[20:03:58] <SimToprawa> Go ahead, Jonathan
[20:04:23] <MasterJonathan> Basically, see what I posted on the meeting page about 20 minutes ago.
[20:04:54] <MasterJonathan> Also, this message I posted on Tope's talk page a while back with a little more detail: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Toprawa_and_Ralltiir#FA.2FGA.2FCA_Main_Page_randomizers
[20:05:12] <MasterJonathan> The proposed Lua module is here: http://masterjonathan.wikia.com/wiki/Module%3ATest
[20:05:12] <SimToprawa> I'm not going to pretend to understand the technical side behind this
[20:05:41] <MasterJonathan> And an example of it in action, operating on a static copy of WP:FA, is here: http://masterjonathan.wikia.com/wiki/Test_page
[20:05:45] <SirCavalier> In terms I care about, what does the AC have to do to maintain the list.
[20:06:34] <MasterJonathan> The only difference is that instead of adding links to /Random when an article is done on the Main Page, you would change the {{Norandom}} template on [{WP:GA]] to a regular link.
[20:07:48] <MasterJonathan> As long as [[WP:GA]] is kept up to date, the randomizer requires no special maintenance other than the {{Norandom}} for articlles that don't belong on the randomizer yet.
[20:08:57] <SimToprawa> Do we have to modify the list everytime we pass a GA?
[20:09:43] <SirCavalier> As I understand it, adding a GA to the GA page would require us to wrap it in a template until its been featured on the main page, then we remove the template for the module to use it in the randomiser, correct?
[20:09:58] <MasterJonathan> Cav: Correct.
[20:10:12] <MasterJonathan> That way there's only one list to maintain instead of two.
[20:10:17] <SimToprawa> What would this template code look like?
[20:10:30] <IFYLOFD> So we wouldn't need the /Random page anymore?
[20:10:38] <MasterJonathan> {{Norandom|article title|display text}}
[20:10:51] <MasterJonathan> Floyd: No, the /rnadom page could be deleted.
[20:11:00] <IFYLOFD> Interesting
[20:11:08] <SimToprawa> And we would have to manually add that code to the GA page upon GA passage and then modify that after it's been on the MP?
[20:11:54] <MasterJonathan> Correct, but it's purposely designed to be as similar as possible to a regular link to make it simple.
[20:12:36] <SimToprawa> Is that all we would have to do?
[20:12:40] <SimToprawa> Any other maintenance?
[20:12:50] <MasterJonathan> No, that's it.
[20:13:08] <MasterJonathan> The module would automatically pick up all changes to WP:GA.
[20:13:13] <SimToprawa> Yeah, I guess
[20:13:20] <SimToprawa> I guess it's easier than doing the random page
[20:13:33] <exiledjedi> Would there be any major caching issues?
[20:14:07] <MasterJonathan> EJ: No different than the current situation, where the Main Page has to be purged to get a new article.
[20:14:17] <exiledjedi> Okay.
[20:14:36] <exiledjedi> Yeah, this sounds fine with me.
[20:14:46] <SirCavalier> What about links on the WP:GA page that do not link to GAs?
[20:15:02] <MasterJonathan> Cav: They can also just use {{Norandom}}.
[20:15:31] <SirCavalier> Will is affect the transcluded links from the GA content header?
[20:15:37] <SimToprawa> Can't you just position the randomizer to only include the GAs?
[20:15:41] <exiledjedi> I thought you mentioned the start and end comments.
[20:16:24] <MasterJonathan> Cav: Like EJ mentioned, two comments would be added above and below the GA list, and the module would only parse between those comments.
[20:16:38] <MasterJonathan> So the header would be untouched.
[20:16:45] <SimToprawa> That was my questoin
[20:16:51] <exiledjedi> There are a few non-GA links in there, but we could add norandom to those.
[20:17:30] <exiledjedi> Really, it is just the ones in the events section.
[20:17:36] <MasterJonathan> Exactly.
[20:17:47] <SimToprawa> Oh, right
[20:17:50] <SimToprawa> I forgot about those
[20:17:54] <SimToprawa> Yeah, that's fine
[20:18:25] <SimToprawa> Things in the {{Norandom}} template will still show up as redirects, etc.?
[20:19:05] <MasterJonathan> {{Norandom}} will behave exactly as a normal link, with the sole exception of being ignored by the Lua module.
[20:19:14] <SimToprawa> Ok
[20:19:16] <SimToprawa> I'm ok with this
[20:19:19] <MasterJonathan> So yes, they should show up as redirects, etc.
[20:20:52] <MasterJonathan> Any other issues or concerns?
[20:21:14] <exiledjedi> None from me.
[20:21:24] <SirCavalier> Nope
[20:21:36] <SimToprawa> Floyd?
[20:21:37] <MasterJonathan> Floyd?
[20:22:21] <IFYLOFD> Oh hi
[20:22:25] <IFYLOFD> Sorry guys
[20:22:27] <IFYLOFD> I'm down with this
[20:22:40] <SimToprawa> Ok
[20:22:45] <SimToprawa> Anything else, Jonathan?
[20:22:56] <MasterJonathan> Nope. I can work on getting things set up in the next few days.
[20:23:03] <SimToprawa> Cool
[20:23:06] <SimToprawa> Ok, back to the meeting.
[20:23:21] <SimToprawa> Jonathan, you're technically allowed to observe the meeting without voice, so I'll let you leave when you want
[20:23:52] <SimToprawa> First up
[20:23:55] <SimToprawa> Things from last meeting
[20:24:12] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vischera
[20:24:18] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Vischera
[20:24:43] <SimToprawa> No change, apparently
[20:24:49] <exiledjedi> Kill
[20:24:58] <SimToprawa> The site is loading slow for me right now, just a heads up
[20:25:13] <SimToprawa> Kill
[20:25:14] <IFYLOFD> [Redacted by administration]
[20:25:14] <SirCavalier> Kill
[20:25:33] <SimToprawa> Vischera killed
[20:25:43] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ringoot
[20:25:49] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Ringoot
[20:26:27] <SimToprawa> No change
[20:26:32] <exiledjedi> Kill
[20:26:33] <SimToprawa> ?
[20:26:39] <SimToprawa> No change, yeah
[20:26:50] <SimToprawa> It's a freaking redlink
[20:26:52] <SimToprawa> No one can fix this?
[20:26:57] <exiledjedi> Yeah, no one had the source.
[20:26:59] <SirCavalier> No one has the source
[20:27:08] <SimToprawa> CC probably has it
[20:27:13] <SimToprawa> Want me to try and ask him really quick?
[20:27:16] <SirCavalier> Let me check hungry ewok
[20:27:22] <SirCavalier> But, yeah, ask CC
[20:27:44] <SimToprawa> Question sent
[20:27:47] <SirCavalier> Not on hungry ewok
[20:27:57] <SimToprawa> I'll give him a chance to answer before we kill this offiically
[20:28:00] <SimToprawa> Let's come back to this
[20:28:12] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoel
[20:28:20] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Ghoel
[20:28:43] <SimToprawa> Really bad lag...
[20:29:10] <SimToprawa> No change
[20:29:11] <SirCavalier> Guess no one wanted to watch the video and sort it out.
[20:29:46] <SirCavalier> Still, if you want to extend, I'll give it a shot.
[20:29:49] <exiledjedi> Kill I guess.
[20:30:01] <IFYLOFD> kill
[20:30:02] <SimToprawa> If you want us to extend it for you, Cav, fine
[20:30:04] <SimToprawa> I'll kill otherwise
[20:30:23] <SirCavalier> Yeah, let me take a crack at it.
[20:30:28] <SimToprawa> ok
[20:30:30] <IFYLOFD> OK then, extend
[20:30:31] <SimToprawa> Extend
[20:30:36] <exiledjedi> Okay, I'll vote extend then
[20:30:40] <SimToprawa> Ghoel extended
[20:30:44] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/FEX-M3_nerve_gas_grenade
[20:30:46] <SirCavalier> I get tired of killing GAs from inactive users over small things.
[20:30:49] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/FEX-M3_nerve_gas_grenade
[20:30:54] <SimToprawa> This thing underwent a pretty massive update
[20:30:57] <SimToprawa> I say we REDUX
[20:31:10] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/FEX-M3_nerve_gas_grenade?diff=5583337&oldid=5582587
[20:31:15] <SirCavalier> Can do. It was my update finding that triggered it.
[20:31:27] <exiledjedi> Sure, redux
[20:31:39] <IFYLOFD> GONNA DUX
[20:31:43] <SirCavalier> Redux
[20:31:49] <SimToprawa> FEX-M3 nerve gas grenade REDUXED
[20:32:00] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Labansat
[20:32:06] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Labansat
[20:32:08] <SimToprawa> I updated it
[20:32:19] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Labansat?diff=5604102&oldid=5582586
[20:32:43] <SirCavalier> Keep
[20:32:46] <exiledjedi> Keep
[20:32:46] <SimToprawa> Keep
[20:33:15] <SimToprawa> Floyd
[20:33:18] <IFYLOFD> keep
[20:33:25] <SimToprawa> Labansat kept
[20:33:28] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/NTB-630_naval_bomber
[20:33:33] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/NTB-630_naval_bomber
[20:33:37] <SimToprawa> No change
[20:33:57] <exiledjedi> Kill
[20:34:05] <SimToprawa> Kill
[20:34:06] <IFYLOFD> Kill
[20:34:07] <SirCavalier> Kill
[20:34:21] <SimToprawa> NTB-630 naval bomber killed
[20:34:40] <SimToprawa> Still waiting on CC
[20:34:46] <SimToprawa> I'll hold off on that till the end of the meeting
[20:34:54] <SimToprawa> Moving on to new articles
[20:35:00] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_Naboo_merchant
[20:35:04] <SimToprawa> Unidentified Naboo merchant - infobox-exclusive info. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:08, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
[20:35:49] <SirCavalier> Probe Mr Connery
[20:35:58] <SimToprawa> Probe
[20:36:00] <exiledjedi> Probe
[20:36:29] <SimToprawa> Floyd
[20:36:31] <exiledjedi> I'm hearing all his dialogue spoken by Sean Connery now.
[20:36:32] <IFYLOFD> Probe
[20:36:40] <SimToprawa> He doesn't sound like Connery :P
[20:36:44] <SimToprawa> Unidentified Naboo merchant probed
[20:36:48] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Transe_Decar
[20:36:58] <SimToprawa> Transe Decar - redlink (from the SH thread; it managed to evade us last meeting) Winterz (talk) 01:00, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
[20:36:59] <SimToprawa> Just noting that this article is the only place this redlink is found, and I'm wondering whether it is truly deserving of an article. Perhaps someone can check the game. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:22, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
[20:37:06] <SimToprawa> No one checked it
[20:37:11] <SimToprawa> Since no one monitors this article anymore
[20:37:17] <SimToprawa> So I say probe to make someone check it
[20:38:04] <exiledjedi> Well, I think I remember there being a Prototype AT-AT in the game, so I think the redlink is probably legitimate. Probe.
[20:38:08] <SirCavalier> Probe
[20:38:27] <SimToprawa> Come on, Floyd
[20:38:30] <IFYLOFD> Probe
[20:38:32] <IFYLOFD> Sorry
[20:38:36] <SimToprawa> Transe Decar probed
[20:38:41] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mubasa_hock
[20:38:45] <SimToprawa> Mubasa hock — The source states that the food listed in the section is expensive. This should be mentioned. Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 16:33, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
[20:39:31] <IFYLOFD> What say you, Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest
[20:39:43] <SimToprawa> Probe
[20:39:47] <IFYLOFD> Probe
[20:39:49] <exiledjedi> Probe
[20:39:50] <SirCavalier> Probe
[20:39:55] <SimToprawa> Mubasa hock probed
[20:39:58] <SimToprawa> Moving on to Maintenance
[20:40:14] <SimToprawa> A few things from that SkyeWalkers thing, which isn't a month old
[20:40:20] <SimToprawa> This is the only one http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shadowsuit
[20:40:28] <SimToprawa> Update needed since Feb 5
[20:40:35] <exiledjedi> Probe
[20:40:40] <IFYLOFD> Probe
[20:40:41] <SimToprawa> Probe
[20:40:44] <SirCavalier> Probe
[20:40:53] <SimToprawa> Shadowsuit probed
[20:40:58] <SimToprawa> Anything else from you guys?
[20:41:02] <exiledjedi> I have one thing.
[20:41:35] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Accudrop_Stun_Gas&diff=5631930&oldid=5474138
[20:41:39] <exiledjedi> This needs a Redux.
[20:41:51] <SimToprawa> REDUX
[20:42:00] <IFYLOFD> WE DUXIN
[20:42:04] <SirCavalier> Redux
[20:42:31] <exiledjedi> Redux
[20:42:39] <SimToprawa> ASG REDUXED
[20:42:46] <SimToprawa> Any discussion items?
[20:43:03] <SimToprawa> CC hasn't responded, so going back to Ringoot...
[20:43:30] <SimToprawa> I'd care more if the person were still around to maintain the article
[20:43:32] <SimToprawa> But they aren't
[20:43:36] <SimToprawa> So I have no problem with killing it
[20:43:55] <SirCavalier> Kill then
[20:43:58] <exiledjedi> Kill
[20:44:01] <IFYLOFD> KILL
[20:44:06] <SimToprawa> Ringoot killed
[20:44:18] <SimToprawa> Meeting duties..
[20:44:40] <SimToprawa> I'm scheduling Meeting 78 again for some reason
[20:44:44] <SimToprawa> TBD for scheduling
[20:44:52] <SimToprawa> I mean paperwork
[20:44:55] <SimToprawa> Any volunteers?
[20:45:05] <exiledjedi> I volunteer.
[20:45:10] <SimToprawa> Cool
[20:45:24] <SimToprawa> We need to compile a new list for duties
[20:45:34] <SimToprawa> I will do that now with a randomizer
[20:45:50] <exiledjedi|away> I'll take care of stuff when I get back.
[20:46:14] <SimToprawa> Ok
[20:46:25] <SimToprawa> Beginning with Meeting 79, these are the schedulers
[20:46:32] <SimToprawa> Cavalier One*
[20:46:33] <SimToprawa> Toprawa and Ralltiir*
[20:46:35] <SimToprawa> Winterz
[20:46:36] <SimToprawa> Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing*
[20:46:38] <SimToprawa> Grunny
[20:46:39] <SimToprawa> Exiledjedi*
[20:46:44] <SimToprawa> And these are the paperworks
[20:46:49] <IFYLOFD> The randomizer has always been kind to me
[20:46:51] <SimToprawa> Toprawa and Ralltiir*
[20:46:52] <SimToprawa> Grunny
[20:46:54] <SimToprawa> Cavalier One*
[20:46:55] <SimToprawa> Winterz
[20:46:57] <SimToprawa> Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing*
[20:46:58] <SimToprawa> Exiledjedi*
[20:47:01] <IFYLOFD> This luck is downright unsustainable
[20:47:11] <SimToprawa> Meeting 77 is hereby concluded.
[20:47:14] <SimToprawa> Good day.