[21:01:11] <SirCavalier> Gather round adventurers and hear the tale of AC Meeting 75
[21:04:17] <SirCavalier> First up, articles from last time.
[21:04:23] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Makurth
[21:04:30] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5435323
[21:04:40] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Makurth
[21:04:52] <SirCavalier> IMPORTANT NOTE (for ACs only): The article was updated after the meeting and before the probation paperwork was handled, therefore these changes will not appear within the {{ACprobe}} function. Winterz (talk) 00:21, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
[21:04:58] <SimToprawa> So it was updated?
[21:05:01] <SimToprawa> I'm confused
[21:05:02] <WookieeWinterz> yes
[21:05:10] <SirCavalier> Apparently, but before the tags were placed.
[21:05:17] <WookieeWinterz> Fred was supposed to do the paperwork but we all know how that ended up
[21:05:22] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Makurth?diff=5435323&oldid=5411317
[21:05:23] <WookieeWinterz> so Hanzo updated it
[21:05:30] <SimToprawa> ok
[21:05:32] <SirCavalier> This is the update by Hanzo
[21:05:35] <SimToprawa> Keep
[21:05:38] <ecks> keep
[21:05:39] <WookieeWinterz> Keep
[21:05:43] <SirCavalier> Keep
[21:05:59] <SirCavalier> Floyd?
[21:06:01] <IFYLOFD> Keep
[21:06:12] <SirCavalier> Makurth kept
[21:06:18] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gibbela
[21:06:22] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5429243
[21:06:28] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Gibbela_%28third_review%29
[21:06:51] <SirCavalier> No change.
[21:06:56] <SimToprawa> Kill
[21:07:01] <WookieeWinterz> Kill
[21:07:05] <SirCavalier> The article was updated with the info, but extra checks wer recommended.
[21:07:15] <SimToprawa> Right
[21:07:26] <SirCavalier> Kill
[21:07:31] <ecks> kill
[21:07:59] <SirCavalier> Gibbela killed.
[21:08:08] <SirCavalier> On to new articles.
[21:08:23] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kurt
[21:08:29] <WookieeWinterz> no changes
[21:08:31] <SirCavalier> Article must be fully referenced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:10, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
[21:08:33] <WookieeWinterz> probe
[21:08:35] <SimToprawa> Recommendation:
[21:08:44] <SimToprawa> Mass-probe all the articles with no referencing
[21:08:56] <ecks> ^
[21:09:06] <SirCavalier> Okay, so add :
[21:09:11] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shodon_Ko
[21:09:25] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Leurm
[21:09:32] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vo_Lian
[21:09:39] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rislar
[21:09:46] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_male_Devaronian_minister
[21:09:56] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vischera
[21:10:05] <SirCavalier> To the probe
[21:10:10] <SimToprawa> Probe all
[21:10:30] <ecks> probe
[21:10:31] <SirCavalier> I left Kiefer and Hrym Mawarr off since they've been updated.
[21:10:36] <SirCavalier> Probe
[21:10:37] <WookieeWinterz> probe
[21:11:11] <SirCavalier> All articles listed above probed.
[21:11:20] <IFYLOFD> Probe
[21:11:26] <SimToprawa> Additional note for these:
[21:11:38] <SimToprawa> For whoever does paperwork, Winterz has noted that some of these need "overall improvement"
[21:11:42] <SimToprawa> Can you elaborate, Winterz?
[21:13:12] <SimToprawa> Winterz?
[21:13:18] <ecks> WookieeWinterz pls respond
[21:13:32] <WookieeWinterz> Damn I thought I had that listed
[21:13:43] <WookieeWinterz> some have infobox-exclusive info
[21:13:49] <WookieeWinterz> but disregard it now
[21:13:57] <WookieeWinterz> I'll had it on the probation page later okay?
[21:14:01] <WookieeWinterz> add*
[21:14:04] <SimToprawa> Ok
[21:14:08] <SirCavalier> Fair enough.
[21:14:18] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Cadinth and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cremlevian_War
[21:14:23] <SirCavalier> Needs to be corrected according to our modern layout guide.
[21:14:29] <SimToprawa> Proob
[21:14:30] <SirCavalier> Probe for both articles.
[21:14:36] <IFYLOFD> pereb
[21:14:36] <WookieeWinterz> probe
[21:15:12] <SirCavalier> Both articles probed
[21:15:32] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kiefer and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hrym_Mawarr - both listed for complete referencing, but have been updated.
[21:15:53] <SimToprawa> I actually added a Fact tag to Mawarr, which we'll cometo eventually in the Maintenance bin
[21:16:56] <SirCavalier> Looking at it, its an easy fix in any case to conform to the ERC
[21:17:24] <SimToprawa> As long as ERC can be used for 43.5 and not 43
[21:17:33] <SimToprawa> The Outcast article doesn't source 43.5 to ERC, so I wasn't sure
[21:17:40] <SimToprawa> and not just* 43
[21:17:46] <SirCavalier> I meant to change it to 43 ABY if needed.
[21:18:01] <SirCavalier> Since the ERC doesn't use .5 dats I believe.
[21:18:05] <SirCavalier> dates*
[21:18:27] <SimToprawa> If 43.5 is correct, though, and can be referenced properly, it should still keep that, since it's more specific
[21:18:31] <SimToprawa> Someone should look into it
[21:18:55] <SirCavalier> Well, we can probe Mawarr and spare Kiefer if you prefer.
[21:19:07] <SirCavalier> I can relist them separately
[21:19:22] <SimToprawa> I'm fine with that
[21:19:31] <SirCavalier> Okay:
[21:19:32] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kiefer
[21:19:36] <WookieeWinterz> spare
[21:19:39] <SimToprawa> Spre
[21:19:41] <SirCavalier> Spare
[21:19:52] <IFYLOFD> spare
[21:19:58] <IFYLOFD> KIEFER SUTHERLAND
[21:20:04] <WookieeWinterz> ^
[21:20:20] <SirCavalier> Ecks?
[21:20:23] <ecks> SPARE
[21:20:27] <SirCavalier> Kiefer spared.
[21:20:32] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hrym_Mawarr
[21:20:35] <SirCavalier> Fact tag for date
[21:20:40] <SirCavalier> Probe
[21:20:41] <SimToprawa> Prob
[21:20:42] <WookieeWinterz> probe
[21:21:08] <IFYLOFD> pereberpg
[21:21:33] <SimToprawa> Perra Bear Pig?
[21:21:36] <WookieeWinterz> oh wait
[21:21:39] <SirCavalier> Pewdiepie
[21:21:43] <WookieeWinterz> Kiefer has infobox exclusive info
[21:22:00] <WookieeWinterz> hair and skin colors
[21:22:25] <WookieeWinterz> :c
[21:22:31] <SirCavalier> Right, Mawarr probed.
[21:22:51] <SirCavalier> Do we want to reopen the spare decision on Kiefer based on Winterz notes?
[21:22:56] <SimToprawa> Sure
[21:23:03] <SirCavalier> Revoting on Kiefer then.
[21:23:08] * You are now known as exiledjedi
[21:23:16] <SirCavalier> For infobox exclusive info.
[21:23:27] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kiefer
[21:23:29] <SimToprawa> Prb
[21:23:32] <SirCavalier> Probe
[21:23:32] <exiledjedi> Probe
[21:23:34] <WookieeWinterz> prob
[21:23:55] <ecks> p
[21:24:00] <SimToprawa> XD
[21:24:04] <WookieeWinterz> lel
[21:24:28] <IFYLOFD> ppertheorboribgethoprp
[21:24:33] <SirCavalier> Kiefer now probed
[21:24:36] <SirCavalier> Violently
[21:24:42] <IFYLOFD> J. BAUER
[21:24:45] <SirCavalier> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chiraneau
[21:24:56] <SirCavalier> X-Wing Miniatures Game - VT-49 Decimator Expansion Pack" includes him, as I could see here. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:41, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
[21:24:58] <SirCavalier> And updated. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:24, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
[21:25:01] <IFYLOFD> Infamous Romanian dictator Nicolae Chiraneau
[21:25:14] <SimToprawa> Funny guy, that Chiraneau
[21:25:57] <WookieeWinterz> looks good
[21:26:03] <SimToprawa> Uh
[21:26:08] <SimToprawa> A little bit of the sourcing is wrongish
[21:26:10] <IFYLOFD> Why put it on the page if you're gonna update it yourself ten hours later?
[21:26:11] <SimToprawa> But I'll fix it
[21:26:16] <SimToprawa> Keep
[21:26:18] <SimToprawa> Or Spare
[21:26:21] <exiledjedi> Spare
[21:26:23] <WookieeWinterz> he was probably unsure if he could do it
[21:26:24] <IFYLOFD> Why waste our fucking time?
[21:26:24] <SirCavalier> Spare
[21:26:25] <IFYLOFD> Spare
[21:26:26] <WookieeWinterz> spare
[21:26:30] <ecks> s
[21:26:37] <SirCavalier> Chiraneau spared
[21:26:48] <SirCavalier> Time to dip into the maintenance bin.
[21:27:17] <SimToprawa> Wait
[21:27:18] <SimToprawa> Redlinks
[21:27:31] <SirCavalier> Where>
[21:27:34] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:SH:Good_articles_with_redlinks
[21:27:39] <SimToprawa> Everything not done here
[21:27:45] <WookieeWinterz> ehrm, I have something to say about that
[21:27:50] <IFYLOFD> I will get Reiva
[21:27:53] <IFYLOFD> No need to probe
[21:28:13] <WookieeWinterz> this is work that can be fixed rather easily
[21:28:16] <SirCavalier> I say lets give ourselves until next meeting on the redlink.
[21:28:20] <WookieeWinterz> I think we should spare them until next meeting
[21:28:27] <IFYLOFD> Yeah, agreed
[21:28:57] <SimToprawa> Very well
[21:29:20] <WookieeWinterz> if it's not done by then, then no one cares about them and they must be destroyed.
[21:29:21] <ecks> sounds good
[21:29:27] <SirCavalier> Okay, whoever does the minutes needs to note we will review the SH thread leftovers at the next meeting.
[21:29:47] <SirCavalier> Maybe we can put up a site notice about it to encourage nominators and others to fix them.
[21:29:58] <SimToprawa> FWIW, the SH thread worked well
[21:30:03] <SimToprawa> The only ones note finished are from inactive nominators
[21:30:06] <SimToprawa> not*
[21:30:18] <WookieeWinterz> indeed
[21:30:29] <SirCavalier> Right, back to the maintenance bin.
[21:30:43] <SirCavalier> Our old fiend Nho'Apakk is on the redux page
[21:31:20] <WookieeWinterz> mercy kill
[21:31:59] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Redux_page
[21:32:01] <SimToprawa> Yes, andit just passed the three-week mark for inactivity
[21:32:06] <SimToprawa> So we can vote to kill it here and now
[21:32:09] <exiledjedi> Kill
[21:32:13] <SimToprawa> Kill
[21:32:17] <SirCavalier> All in favour say Yub Yub
[21:32:18] <WookieeWinterz> Death
[21:32:22] <ecks> yessir
[21:32:26] <SirCavalier> Yub Yub
[21:32:49] <IFYLOFD> yub
[21:32:49] <exiledjedi> Yub Yub, Commander.
[21:33:06] <SirCavalier> Nho'Apakk gently laid to rest next to a pile of smoking AT-ST parts.
[21:33:21] <SimToprawa> aww <3
[21:33:31] <SirCavalier> The other two,http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/NTB-630_naval_bomber?t=20150108020319 and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tan?t=20150104025902 are from FFG's Stay on Target, released in Dec 2014. Do we have an exact date when the book was released?
[21:34:37] <SimToprawa> Apparently Dec 23ish
[21:34:40] <SimToprawa> http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=5277
[21:34:48] <SimToprawa> So not a month yet
[21:34:50] <SirCavalier> Okay, so spare on both for 1 month rule?
[21:34:53] <SimToprawa> Yeah
[21:35:06] <WookieeWinterz> sp are
[21:35:25] <ecks> spare
[21:35:41] <IFYLOFD> spaerb
[21:35:50] <SirCavalier> NTB-630 and Tan spared for now.
[21:35:58] <SirCavalier> That's it for the maintenance bin.
[21:36:02] <SirCavalier> Any other business?
[21:36:08] <SimToprawa> Yes
[21:36:24] <SimToprawa> I showed some or all of you my plans for reorganizing the Events section of the GA page.
[21:36:38] <SimToprawa> Cav and I had a difference in opinion of how it should look, so I've mocked up both options and hopefully we can choose one
[21:36:42] <WookieeWinterz> I haven't seen it yet ;(
[21:36:59] <SimToprawa> I've reorganized battles so they're listed by conflict (wars, etc.) instead of alphabetically
[21:37:16] <SimToprawa> It's a humongous effing list, so we need to truncate it somehow
[21:37:16] <SirCavalier> I will point out my difference of opinion is based purely on aesthetic preference, and not on how the original looked.
[21:37:23] <SimToprawa> Right
[21:37:31] <SirCavalier> The idea is sound
[21:37:32] <SimToprawa> I suggested a scroll box; Cade suggested hiding it
[21:37:48] <SimToprawa> Here is Option A, Scroll box: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Toprawa_and_Ralltiir/Test (scroll down to Events)
[21:38:24] <SimToprawa> Option B, hiding it: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Toprawa_and_Ralltiir/Test
[21:38:37] <SimToprawa> My concern is that I think it's better that the section is immediately visible
[21:38:51] <SirCavalier> I would like to note that whichever way we go, we should probably do the same to the characters section
[21:38:54] <SimToprawa> Plus, if you open up the hide view, then it becomes its extremely long list with no scrolling function
[21:39:04] <SimToprawa> We can definitely do that
[21:39:10] <SimToprawa> I've been meaning to reorganize it for a long time too
[21:39:27] <ecks> I prefer A
[21:39:32] <exiledjedi> I'd have to go with the scroll box.
[21:39:35] <WookieeWinterz> yeah hiding looks meh
[21:39:45] <WookieeWinterz> A
[21:40:07] <exiledjedi> And I agree with Cav about the characters section.
[21:40:18] <SimToprawa> Floyd?
[21:40:22] <IFYLOFD> A
[21:40:28] <SirCavalier> Option A it is.
[21:40:35] <SimToprawa> Ok
[21:40:39] <WookieeWinterz> I gotta ask though
[21:40:40] <SimToprawa> I added the underlines too for the eras, btw
[21:40:48] <SimToprawa> It helps to specify each section
[21:40:50] <WookieeWinterz> what happens when it is the conflict that is awarded GA status?
[21:40:59] <WookieeWinterz> we link the title?
[21:41:03] <SimToprawa> We have examples of that
[21:41:17] <SimToprawa> Sy Myrthian Insurrection and Listehol Campaign
[21:41:18] <WookieeWinterz> ah got it
[21:41:20] <SimToprawa> I listed them both
[21:41:25] <WookieeWinterz> ok
[21:41:31] <SimToprawa> I didn't link the subsectoins because it makes it difficult to navigate
[21:41:35] <SimToprawa> Since everything just looks like a link
[21:42:07] <SimToprawa> Ok, that's all
[21:42:16] <SirCavalier> Any other business at all?
[21:42:36] <exiledjedi> Nothing from me.
[21:42:37] <WookieeWinterz> Cav promised tavern games and wenches
[21:42:49] <SimToprawa> We need to figure out the meeting duties, actually
[21:42:52] <SimToprawa> To work around ecks' absence
[21:42:54] <SirCavalier> On it
[21:43:10] <SirCavalier> Ecks is due at the moment, with EJ scheduling next meeting.
[21:43:15] <ecks> for the record, I can still do the paperwork and such, but it might take a while
[21:43:28] <SimToprawa> I think it's better we just give him a reprieve
[21:43:28] <WookieeWinterz> how long is that?
[21:43:41] <ecks> up to two weeks or even more
[21:43:45] <WookieeWinterz> uhh
[21:43:50] <SimToprawa> Yeah, that's too long
[21:43:58] <SirCavalier> Anyone want to volunteer for ecks duties, or shall we move the duties forward one?
[21:44:03] <exiledjedi> I'll do it.
[21:44:07] <SimToprawa> I'll schedule Meeting 78
[21:44:10] <SimToprawa> Since he's on that too
[21:44:19] <SimToprawa> Then we'll be good up to that point
[21:44:43] <SirCavalier> So EJ to do the paperwork and schedule next meeting, Tope to take over Meeting 78 duties?
[21:44:53] <SimToprawa> Sounds good
[21:44:56] <exiledjedi> Sure
[21:45:12] <SirCavalier> Okay.
[21:45:39] <SirCavalier> Then here, on the shores of the ocean, does our fellowship end.
[21:45:44] <SirCavalier> For at least a month.