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Thanks for reverting that vandalism Xell Khaar. :) --Eyrezer 06:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
WEG sourcebooks
Hey Xell. I noticed that you are going around and changing the publication dates for many of the WEG sourcebooks and I was wondering where you were getting your information from. Some of the changes have been checked and the dates you are adding appear to be incorrect. For example this change is incorrect as the book states 1989 as the publishing date. I would appreciate it if you could stop making these changes until you can tell us what your source is. We would like to make sure that there isn't some sort of conflict. Thanks. Cylka-talk- 05:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I appreciate your attempt to source the date; unfortunately, I've found that sites like Barnes & Nobel, Amazon.com, etc. often can't be trusted for their publication information such as release dates. —Xwing328(Talk) 05:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I found that most of those dates were on cargobay, and nearly all of them claimed they were released in June. If cargobay doesn't know a month or a day it puts June 1st, likewise Amazon puts January 1st. So half the sourcebooks were stated to have came out June or January, which is obviously not right.. Looking at List of all Star Wars media you'll see lots and lots of books seem to come out June 1st, it's becuase people take the dates from Cargobay. Barnes & Noble had more disperse months. So many of them were just changing stuff from June to November etc. Which is actually probably more accurate. As for the ones which differed in years, I figured Barnes & Noble had more accurate months, so the years were probably more correct also right? It's better than having all of them come out June 1st... What is the source for the previous dates anyway? If it's not cargobay. -- Xell Khaar 05:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- All of them are bound to have different sources. Ideally, getting the date from the book itself is the way to go, but usually those just have years. On occasion, I have found other sites that specialize in lists of comic releases that sometimes have specific dates. —Xwing328(Talk) 05:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah but do you really think it's right that every sourcebook came out in June? I seriously seriously doubt that come June west end games released a bunch of sourcebooks each year, and then waited until next June to release them again. Besides, the previous articles didn't even have sources listed, so who's to say their date is more accurate than mine? It's just whoever made the article's word against mine, who's to say they didn't just make up the dates or just guess? At least I have SOME source, even if it is only Barnes & Noble.. better than a million June dates. -- Xell Khaar 06:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- For instance, look at this article. June release date. Where do you think they got that from? From stupid cargobay http://cargobay.starwars.com/webapps/cargobay/item-detail/7816 Like every other book, Cargobay was too lazy to find the real release date so they put June 01. I know that's not right. Barns & Noble says August, so I would change that to August, because that seems more reasonable to me. Which is more accurate? A site that's a few years old that says June 01 for half its items? Or a book store that's actually been around since 1988 when the book came out, and probably recorded the release date when the book came into the stores. -- Xell Khaar 05:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- And still other sources, such as Amazon.com, give a May 1988 release for that adventure. We may just have to remove months from books that don't have the month printed on them somewhere (as many later WEG books do) unless we can find reliable, verifiable sources for their release. jSarek 07:09, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- All of them are bound to have different sources. Ideally, getting the date from the book itself is the way to go, but usually those just have years. On occasion, I have found other sites that specialize in lists of comic releases that sometimes have specific dates. —Xwing328(Talk) 05:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I found that most of those dates were on cargobay, and nearly all of them claimed they were released in June. If cargobay doesn't know a month or a day it puts June 1st, likewise Amazon puts January 1st. So half the sourcebooks were stated to have came out June or January, which is obviously not right.. Looking at List of all Star Wars media you'll see lots and lots of books seem to come out June 1st, it's becuase people take the dates from Cargobay. Barnes & Noble had more disperse months. So many of them were just changing stuff from June to November etc. Which is actually probably more accurate. As for the ones which differed in years, I figured Barnes & Noble had more accurate months, so the years were probably more correct also right? It's better than having all of them come out June 1st... What is the source for the previous dates anyway? If it's not cargobay. -- Xell Khaar 05:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Alright so I bought every sourcebook so that I could look at the dates inside.. and it turns out Barnes & Noble was wrong about a lot of them.. especially the ones where the years differ. Still though, your June dates were wrong on many occasions, and Barnes & Noble actually confirmed the date inside the book quite a few times. So I still think that the ones where the years are the same, the dates on Barnes & Noble might be accurate, or at least closer to the truth than June 1st for every book. I reverted all the edits that I made that were wrong. Sorry about that. -- Xell Khaar 07:37, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey
Hey Xell Khaar, this is Darth Storm. I was wondering if you could lift my ban from the elder scrolls wiki. I dont think one week was fair for inserting an image that I had no idea would get me banned. But I apologize for using the image, and look forward to getting back to work on the wikia. Darth Storm 20:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Additions
I just added "Death Troopers: Recovered Messages from Purge" to the list of Star Wars media. I came across it on the wiki and was surprised it wasn't listed on the master list. I'd assumed *every* piece of Star Wars media was on the list, especially after I read how obsessed you are with experiencing every Star Wars release; now I'm wondering what else has been missed. Are you 100% certain no physical releases are missing? If so, we should concentrate on tracking down online releases, including free canon promotionals, such as DT: RMfP, that may have been missed. Also, is there a way to automate the counter at the top? I noticed it didn't update from 2,303 after I saved my edit, so I increased it to 2,304. Do you personally own a copy of every (at least non-redundant) Star Wars media release? If so, that's impressive! You may be the only one able to legitimately make that claim. I am a newcomer to the EU, having read just a handful of random EU books as a child, such as Dark Tide I: Onslaught, Galaxy of Fear #2, and one of The Lost City of the Jedi books, as well games including Knights of the Old Republic and Shadows of the Empire. I'm looking into beginning a serious exploration of the EU. Where do you find rare items, such as "Imperial troop transporter (story booklet)?" Hopefully the list will be 100% complete someday; then we'll only have to worry about upcoming releases. Also, having both a production order list and a chronological one would be great.
Spectralancer 00:57, February 21, 2010 (UTC)Spectralancer
- Hi yeah well I haven't been editing it lately because I get distracted easily and so a few recent things might not be on there. For something like Star Wars you have to constantly monitor new stuff like every day to make sure nothing new is coming out.. I haven't really been doing that so yeah. I don't own every piece of Star Wars media.. I have read and have access to everything before 1985, though this sometimes means I just have scans of it. I do actually buy all the novels though, I refuse to read ebooks.. they're annoying. As for rare stuff like Imperial troop transport good luck.. I actually have scans of it but it was a pain in the ass to track down. As for an actual physical copy I have no idea where you'd get one. If there's a way to automate the counter I don't know how.. I'm not good at wikiscript. Anyway there's a lot of little things missing on there, and a lot of things that only have the month instead of the day... or a lot of things that say they came out the first of the month because the real day they came out was lost, or a lot of things that say June 1st because someone took the date from cargobay.. etc. So I doubt it'll ever by 100% complete. I really think they should just start putting the day stuff comes out on books and comics, then stuff like this would be a lot easier. I make a lot of timelines and the best I can usually do is rough estimates, only things like big movies or modern video games have the exact day they came out as common knowledge, almost everything else is pure speculation. That's the best I can do though. I know that every physical release before 2009 is on there, though the date might not be entirely accurate. -- Xell Khaar 01:57, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Having every physical release listed prior to 2009 is impressive, and goes a long way toward having a truly complete master list, since that means only the past year needs to be checked for potentially missing physical releases and the current year maintained, along with tracking down online releases, which can't date back anywhere near as far as print history (ten years, maybe?). Are you a Hyperspace member? There are many exclusive stories on Hyperspace, apparently, so you should subscribe; I plan to do so as well, eventually. I'll be adding Hyperspace stories; there's a list on here showing which stories are Hyperspace exclusives, so I can just transfer the information. I was wondering how you can be sure you haven't missed anything; are you sure, for example, there's only one story booklet in the whole of Star Wars history? Spectralancer 05:33, February 22, 2010 (UTC)Spectralancer
- Well I'm not 100% absolutely sure.. but I've gone through every media article on Wookieepedia multiple times and checked to be sure every single one was on the list.. well all the articles that were made at the time anyway, sometimes Wookieepedia doesn't have articles for certain things so they slip through the cracks.. I made it a wiki article because I figured things that I missed would eventually be added by people who noticed missing things like that. I'm not a hyperspace member, I never even got far enough in the timeline to actually read any of the stuff that is exclusive to it, so I never subscribed. -- Xell Khaar 07:13, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Having every physical release listed prior to 2009 is impressive, and goes a long way toward having a truly complete master list, since that means only the past year needs to be checked for potentially missing physical releases and the current year maintained, along with tracking down online releases, which can't date back anywhere near as far as print history (ten years, maybe?). Are you a Hyperspace member? There are many exclusive stories on Hyperspace, apparently, so you should subscribe; I plan to do so as well, eventually. I'll be adding Hyperspace stories; there's a list on here showing which stories are Hyperspace exclusives, so I can just transfer the information. I was wondering how you can be sure you haven't missed anything; are you sure, for example, there's only one story booklet in the whole of Star Wars history? Spectralancer 05:33, February 22, 2010 (UTC)Spectralancer
I thought your name looked very familiar
Greetings to you, Xell.
You do not actually know me - but I (now) help run a site to which you used to frequent. That one is now quite popular. (As I imagine it was back then, too). We're now more popularly used than the other site. Anyways - I saw your name appear a bit in the discussion about the Legends thing. (Which I'd only just heard about) - and, well, took the opportunity to say hello. I'd also like to say, if you ever wanted to come back, you're more than welcome to do so. If you don't, that's okay as well - just wanted to take the opportunity to say hello, and to thank you for all the hard work you did as the original admin of the elder scrolls wiki! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:23, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
- You're more popular than UESP now? That makes me happy.. those people were total jerks to me, practically harrassing me while I was admin, seriously. Anyway, I think I recall being banished from TES wiki for trying to usurp Michaeldsuarez of his admin powers... wiki politics are always so dramatic... so I'm not sure if I'm even allowed to come back, and I haven't really played an Elder Scrolls game in a while... so yeah. Look me up if you need something from the Codex Scientia or the Daggerfall Chronicles though, I happen to own both! Though you probably won't ever need those, since it looks like your wiki is more gameplay focused like UESP than the in-universe one I was trying to make it. I actually was trying to make it like Wookieepedia, objective past-tense third-person, rather than out of universe second-person. Seems things have changed a lot. -- Xell Khaar (talk) 11:53, May 11, 2014 (UTC)