Talk: WhiteBoy/Archive 1

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I noticed that in Internet Explorer the current Star Wars Wiki logo has a pink background, but is displayed correctly in other browsers, this is due to IE, well, basicly IE sucks. LOL, really, in order for it to display correctly in IE it needs to not have a colored background, best to have it in Fireworks or Photoshop having the checkerboard grey background to show that there is no background.

(look at this page in Internet Explorer)

Origional: I made a fixed version,
Can you move this to File:Wiki.png:
File:Wiki.png File:Wiki fix.png

--AlexTheMartian 11:30, 11 Mar 2005 (GMT)

Got it. Thanks for the fix! Cbarbry 09:17, 12 Mar 2005 (GMT)
I made the logo but I forgot to check it on IE (I'm using Firefox). Thanks for fixing it. If you want to create a new logo for this wiki to replace the one I made, download Star Wars fonts from dafont.com : ) --LouCypher ☎ 21:42, 12 Mar 2005 (GMT)
I just downloaded these fonts, the first set. Now what do I do with them, or how do I get them to load into my photo program? -- Riffsyphon1024 01:22, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)
Would these True-Type fonts be able to be opened up in Adobe Photodeluxe? -- Riffsyphon1024 01:32, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

File:Wiki_tmp.png

I've uploaded the colored version. If you like it, save it as Wiki.png and upload it. --LouCypher ☎ 06:18, 20 Mar 2005 (EST)

I like! Thanks! WhiteBoy 01:18, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

Agreed on Years

I agree, why link to a generalized format of the year in question when we can specify certain events relating to Star Wars itself. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:15, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

Cool. Glad you like the idea. WhiteBoy 01:20, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

Copies from CUSWE

I have copied the lists of planets from TheForce.net's CUSWE and posted them within my user page. I ask if simply copying the lists of the planets, moons, and stars, to where its just names, is copyright. I would think the actual text inside those links there would be copywritten by them but not the name of the planets as the list they've assembled. Refer to my user page for more information. -- Riffsyphon1024 20:53, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)

  • I have requested permission to copy them onto article space from the creator of the CUSWE. Had I not, we might have been in some deep poodoo. -- Riffsyphon1024 21:12, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)

Wikipedia:What do Do??

Dear Whiteboy, I was only copying articles from Wikipedia because they are better. The people who made the original Episode articles on Wookieepedia did not do a very good job - it's tough luck thye're work was erased. I mean, my work has been destroyed very frequently. KFan II 01:41, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Whiteboy!

Thanks for standing by me in my little arguement with Aidje. I really apreciate it. Also, is it possible for me to become a person of authority on Wookieepedia? I like being in control. I hope I'm not sounding like Darth Sidious. So, anyhow, thanks. KFan II 23:55, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

  • No, I'd rather leave it just me and Riff for now. WhiteBoy 18:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This scares me. -- Riffsyphon1024 16:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sources

It isn't very helpful or professional to add "1. (please add sources)" to an article. If you add content that is derived from a specific source, then add it to the list. If you think an article requires sources, leave a note on the discussion page or contact the specific users who added details. Also, sources are generally bulleted lists, not numbered, as explained on Wikipedia's citation guide. --SparqMan 15:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Point well taken. My thoughts:
    • Whoever created the article is most likely be watching the article, will see that it was changed, and will add the requested info.
    • It points out that some needed information is missing, so the creator of the article (or whoever) can add it if they know it.
    • The idea on the numbering was to be able to reference a particular part of the article to its source by the number. See this old revision for an example.
  • I'm interested to here your comments on these thoughts. Thanks! WhiteBoy 16:12, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • That citing reminds me too much of my history papers. *Shudders* -- Riffsyphon1024 16:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • LOL! But aren't we creating an encyclopedia here?  :) WhiteBoy 16:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Yes, but you can deal with the sources. :P -- Riffsyphon1024 16:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • So, you're bailing on me with this one, huh???  ;) WhiteBoy 16:26, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Riff and I have chatted, and we decided to keeping putting the Sources and Appearances sections in where appropriate (because that's something the article needs), but w/o superscripts which tend to clutter the article up (and aren't useful most of the time anyway). Sound good? WhiteBoy 18:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Sounds good to me --Fade 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I think that it reflects poorly on the site if a casual visitor stops in and sees "please add sources". While you may think it will come to the attention of the contributor, it will more likely appear to other users that a contributor added some stuff and was too lazy to add his/her own sources, and thus included a mark like yours. Leaving a message on the Talk page of a chronic non-source user is generally effective. Otherwise, a tag of "It has been requested that sources be added to substantiate the specific details included in this article" might be a better solution. --SparqMan 22:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • If I may butt in here, I think making sure articles have sources (or at least appearances) is a very good idea. Though the accuracy of an article usually doesn't come too much into play, it does help to be able to check that the info is right, and maybe be able to add more info from the sources or appearances. Secondly, I think SparqMan's got a good idea too. We don't want to come across lazy, but we do want to make sure our sources are properly cited. Even the official Star Wars Encyclopedia has a works cited list! -- Shadowtrooper 02:33, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Agreed per Sparqman and Shadowtrooper. We must have sources or else we will not seem legit in the SW community. I support the creation of a "sources needed" template. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:55, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I like the idea of a "sources needed" template rather than what I've been doing (adding an empty Sources section). Good idea! WhiteBoy 13:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree with the template idea. --Fade 13:55, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I must note that most of the information in these character articles comes from Wikipedia itself. Don't you remember that we copied a wealth over, and that Wikipedia would have already ensured that the info was accurate? -- Riffsyphon1024 21:27, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Sources aren't just for us, though, but for anyone using the wiki, too. Sources are far from being redundant. If that was your point, that is. --Fade 21:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Additionally, it would be a mistake to assume the accuracy of articles on Wikipedia, particularly Star Wars articles. They are commonly rife with estimates, inaccurate summaries, fanon and other errors. Furthermore, the majority of the articles and almost all new articles are not from Wikipedia, and those that were copied over have undergone significant changes, or will. --SparqMan 21:42, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • All of what I wanted to say, and couldn't be bothered to type ;) --Fade 21:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • I'll keep that in mind, Sparq. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:10, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

D'farian

Just wondering why you got rid of the author and publication info on the D'farian article. I don't think we've settled on doing that -- there's a discussion over on Wookieepedia talk:Manual of Style which hasn't come to a conclusion yet, though it's been a few weeks since anyone's added to it. -- Silly Dan 21:23, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • Just seems like redundant information. Didn't know about/remember any discussion going on about it. Feel free to change it back if you would like. WhiteBoy 22:28, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm not bothered that much by it, just curious. May as well wait for a consensus to form before changing it back. -- Silly Dan 02:56, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Video Games List

Hey there, I notice you have a games list on your "to do" list... and so do I, lol. I would have done it by now, but there was some discussion that needed to be done first. I'll copy & paste my comment from the discussion page of your article:

I have a pretty much complete list of Star Wars video games. And this article is not entirely correct when it says "the only official ones have been developed and/or published by LucasArts", as there are about 20 that were licensed but not actually developed or published by LucasArts

Here is my list, if you want to take a peek: http://www.galacticbasic.net/hosted/Game_List/ --Beeurd 22:37, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • If the info is incorrect, please correct it. I would, but I don't know which article you are talking about right off. Looks like a good list you have there. You will be able to make some good additions, I think. Have fun on Wookieepedia!  :) WhiteBoy 04:55, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • I like your thoroughly researched list, Beeurd. I hope to see it all make its way here. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:11, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Wookieepedia stats

For anyone who cares, I stumbled across this and thought it was interesting.  :) WhiteBoy 04:50, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • Holy Frink, WhiteBoy! And I'm top editor here. :D -- Riffsyphon1024 05:08, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • And you're surprised?  :) I was surprised that we're getting over 2000 visits (not just hits) per day. Woot! WhiteBoy 05:27, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
      • It's already projecting the wiki to grow to 5600 articles at our rate of contributions, and only half the month is gone. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:29, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
        • Haha, that's totally sweet. Seems I'm in a close race with Aidje for second place... Now, what is the definition of a "visit"? --Imp 08:37, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
          • "Visits occur when some remote site makes a request for a page on your server for the first time. As long as the same site keeps making requests within a given timeout period, they will all be considered part of the same Visit. If the site makes a request to your server, and the length of time since the last request is greater than the specified timeout period (default is 30 minutes), a new Visit is started and counted, and the sequence repeats. Since only pages will trigger a visit, remotes sites that link to graphic and other non- page URLs will not be counted in the visit totals, reducing the number of false visits." - Webalizer Quick help. WhiteBoy 03:02, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
            • I posted a link to the main page via my SW group on MySpace that many of my members click on every now and then to either post or just look. Since I have over 11750 members in that group, would a majority of our visits come directly from that URL and would they all be unique visits, or how would that work? -- Riffsyphon1024 04:59, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • That particular stat doesn't really have anything to do with how they are getting to the site. The way I interpret it: Each person who hits the site is considered a visit. No matter if they pull up 1000 pages, it's considered a single visit. Then, if they go eat dinner (after reading SWW all day one gets hungry!), and then they come back (looks like) 30 minutes later and hit it again, that's considered a separate visit. Does that answer your question? WhiteBoy 05:15, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • It's interesting to note how many of our top posters happened to show up the same day I did:
QuentinGeorge	6	-1	371	1443	502	122	Apr 27, 2005	82
JSarek		13	-1	135	593	265	53	Apr 27, 2005	82
Fade		15	-2	51	503	363	34	Apr 27, 2005	82
Kosure		20	-3	1	347	133	1	Apr 27, 2005	82
Additionally, an equal number either showed up the day before or the day after:
Death Regis	11	-3	5	602	97	1	Apr 28, 2005	81
Eion		18	-4	3	444	622	15	Apr 26, 2005	83
JimRaynor55	21	-2	41	276	146	36	Apr 26, 2005	83
Xenomaniac	29	-5	1	144	70	 	Apr 28, 2005	81
I don't happen to recall what made me first show up that day, but I'm guessing it was a post to either The Official Site or tf.n; I'm similarly guessing I'm not the only one who saw it. ;-) jSarek 06:06, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • Well I remember that JSarek, QuentinGeorge, and Gladius all came from TFN forums. I also invited a bunch of Wikipedians on one day and can't remember who now. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:22, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Activate Order 66

I believe now would be a good time to make Aidje the new admin. One day ahead of the new WotM crowning, this will be his last day of term present. Angela says you have the power to make him one and its located in Special Pages. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:01, 31 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • So be it, Jedi. WhiteBoy 06:07, 31 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Domain

Shouldn't we decide on a name before asking for this? I think Angela would appreciate that :P --Imp 10:16, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've commented on this at Wookieepedia talk:Community Portal#Domain. Angela (talk) 19:19, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Puter trouble

Hard drive crashed, so I've been out of pocket for a while. I should be getting it fixed shortly. :p WhiteBoy 19:15, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • Still haven't had time to fix this thing. Lots of stuff going on at work and at home! I'll get it going soon, tho. WhiteBoy 08:25, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • I hope you don't mind that I made both JustinGann and QuentinGeorge WotM for September. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
      • No problem at all. Sorry I haven't been around much. (Just dropping in at work right now.) Thanks for keeping things running, as always. :D WhiteBoy 16:58, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Holiday Special

There is a much better copy that I have, where can I post it at?

  • Wookieepedia doesn't allow very large files to be uploaded. So what I did was hosted it on my personal web site. You can put it on your own web site (if you have one) and update the link, or you can send it to me and I'll update the one on my web site. WhiteBoy 17:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

New request for admin

I have talked with various members of Wookieepedia, including Aidje and they have agreed that we could use another admin, and our overall choice was SparqMan. Other names did come up however they don't quite have the seniority that he possesses, plus having dealt with so many users before. In the near future I might suggest we make QuentinGeorge, JustinGann and maybe even Azizlight admins as they have all helped immensely. NOTE: This list is only a sample of the great users this wiki has produced. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:58, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • I would like to second this request. Wookieepedia has grown large enough that it's attracting large numbers of both well-wishing but ill-informed and stubborn contributors, and malicious spammers. More admins would help keep them under control, mitigating problems like yesterday's Palpatine edit war. In fact, I would go a step further than Riffsyphon1024, and suggest not waiting for the future to make some of the others listed into admins, as well. jSarek 07:34, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • FYI, I have now made SparqMan and QuentinGeorge admins. WhiteBoy 02:26, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Domain (again)

Why don't you agree to transfer the domain to Wikia? :( - Sikon 10:23, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • My thought was I'd rather the community own the domain than a company, even if it is one we trust. WhiteBoy 22:09, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • Now that Angela doesn't agree to move Wookieepedia to a domain not owned by Wikia, what are you planning to do with it? - Sikon [Talk] 07:56, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • For now I'm just pointing www.wookieepedia.com to starwars.wikicities.com. Wikicities web servers aren't set to accept it yet, tho, so it just defaults to www.wikicities.com.  :( WhiteBoy 18:47, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
      • Sorry to butt in, but what is to stop us from migrating the content of the wiki to another hosted MediaWiki at the domain name of our choice? The content is available under GFDL, and if the community moves with the domain, what is left here will just be a shell. If we were feeling particularly bitter, we could (A) delete the content, (B) sabotage it with plentiful incorrect information, or (C) some combination thereof. --SparqMan 08:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
        • You're not butting in, but you are scaring me here a little with this kind of talk, SparqMan. But ultimately that is why Angela has the opinion she does because that's exactly what we could do if we own the domain. From the community's perspective, that's why I want to hold on to the domain: if something happens to Wikia or they decide to start charging or whatever, the community can changing hosting providers and keep the wiki alive. (To be clear, the only reason I see to ever make a change would be if Wikia changed their hosting policy. I've been very happy with what little working with Angela and others I have had. They are very helpful.) If we (the community) should ever decide this were necessary, we should and would not do A, B, or C that you've mentioned above...that would be simply spiteful and malicious. From their (very legitimate) perspective: if the wiki becomes known as wookieepedia.com then it can easily be redirected to another host, killing whatever revenue they receive from the site. Wikia is a business and has to make money, so I definitely see their POV, too. WhiteBoy 18:47, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • I just want to add, that I'll do whatever the community wants. If we decide that it's best to give the domain to Wikia, then I'll sign it over. WhiteBoy 03:56, 12 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Main page

Hmm.. so you're saying that the main page must be your way or else? Sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me. Adamwankenobi 16:10, 21 Oct 2005 (UTC)

  • No, you're the one that seems to be saying that by insisting on putting your changes in, despite several users taking them out and being outvoted on the discussion page. Let it go, my friend. WhiteBoy 16:12, 21 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't think that's quite the case. I conceded to the last version of the page, but this is a compromise which I am willing to make. That's fair enough, I believe. And, I'm not involved in any edit wars but this one. I don't know what would lead you to believe that. Adamwankenobi 16:14, 21 Oct 2005 (UTC)

You deserve your own article :-)

Hi WhiteBoy... i just created Category:Webmasters, and since you are the creator of this Wiki, I think you really deserve your own article to link from this category. Care to make an article about yourself? Or if you feel funny about making your own article, just drop your real name here and someone will make the article for you :-) And thanks for creating this awesome site! --Azizlight 01:11, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

  • lol, cool. I'm so tempted to make an article about myself. :P Go for it WhiteBoy! --beeurd 02:51, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • I'll help with some bio info from Wikipedia onward. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:04, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • LOL. <garth>I'm not worthy!</garth> Dunno...I think I'd feel kinda funny making an article about myself. Maybe I'll just edit it once it'd made. Real name's Chad Barbry. But y'all are the ones really making the site. Lord knows I don't have the time to keep this site up...I'm an old (heh...32 next month) married guy with three kids! :D And it seriously never would have taken off if it hadn't been for Riff, so I'd say let's put him up there, too, as the co-creator. He was the "PR" man that got out there and put the word out; plus he has contributed much more time than I have to articles. WhiteBoy 15:54, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • Thanks man. -- Riffsyphon1024 21:18, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • Long live Chad Barbry! We also need to know Riff's real name. --Azizlight 23:20, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • Heh, I know it, but I'll wait for him to offer it up. WhiteBoy 00:57, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • WhiteBoy, can you help us with the Steven Greenwood page? Since you know the history better than any of us... thanks :-) --Azizlight 01:47, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • I didn't know that Chad would know me more than I would. :P == Riffsyphon1024 06:16, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I'm just fixing some broken links on your talk page

  • Don't mind me. — Silly Dan 23:01, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • heh...they should have a disorder for the obsessive-compulsive correcting of links on a wiki. Or at least a sniglet. Hyper-correcto maniac? :D WhiteBoy 01:05, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)
      • ... we really need to find a Star Wars fan out there who knows how to program wiki bots for this sort of thing, don't we? Ah well. — Silly Dan 01:17, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)
        • I'm sure they're out there. I wonder if it's just regular expressions? I may investigate a bit. WhiteBoy 01:29, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)

In case you're wondering...

S'mores ice cream from Schwan's is awesome! MMmmm.... WhiteBoy 07:03, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Wookieepedia Search Plugin

Is there any way we can put a link to LouCypher's SW Wiki search plugin somewhere on the site? It works with Firefox and Netscape.

Plug-in Shadowtrooper talk 18:04, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • Done. I put it in the Community Portal. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for the plug-in, LouCypher. WhiteBoy 03:44, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Admin meeting

Moving it to User:WhiteBoy/Admin meeting.

MarcK

MarcK is now ready for your admin abilities to be pronounced onto him. The deadline has passed. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:01, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • oh...done. WhiteBoy 10:56, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

blamed fro

  • shouldn't banned members have the reason for them being banned on their pages? a few people may want to know why.-user:remoh
    • I think it's better that they don't get publically shamed...at least one user who was temporarily banned has come back to make good contributions. Mind you, it shouldn't be covered up, and the reasons will probably appear on VIP or the talk page of the user in question anyway. But there's no need to stamp it all over the user's page, IMHO. — Silly Dan 03:52, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
      • I agree, SD. The banned user can still email the admin who banned them to find the reason (if they don't already know). I would venture to say that the admins are judicious enough with the bans that the user will most likely know why they are being banned. WhiteBoy 16:09, 7 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Jabber

could you help me get jabber so i can participate in next talk? thxJustinGann 05:26, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • Sure thing. You can hit my post in the WP:CP for suggestions on a client. It's fairly straightforward, but I've been thinking about creating a step-by-step HOWTO page to walk people through it since it looks like we might make this a regular thing. If you have another IM, lemme know and I can walk you through it as you're doing it if you like. WhiteBoy 06:46, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Weird Link

Whiteboy, click on this link: pilot... That's kinda weird, isn't it? :| And I have no idea how to solve that :S ----Inmobilus 09:24, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah, kinda pointless. I removed the page. Thanks for the heads-up. WhiteBoy 09:28, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    • No problem ;) ----Inmobilus 09:35, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

DB

Has Angela contacted the various Wikicities founders with info on the DB strains? If it will help, we should clamp down on the images that exist solely in image galleries and not articles. --SparqMan 17:07, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • No, haven't heard anything. There is a Special:Unusedimages page and currently there are 346 unused files (although some are probably PDF and OGG files). My preference would be to use/link to them in the appropriate articles as opposed to deleting them. WhiteBoy 18:02, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Mispeelings special page?

Hiya, do you know what happened to Special:Maintenance/mispeelings? I just noticed it's now a dead link on Wookieepedia:Things to do. Cheers. --Azizlight 09:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Dunno. I'll check. I know they had to disable some of the special pages for performance reasons, but that was a while ago and I thought they'd turned it back on. I'll see what I can find out. WhiteBoy 09:12, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the Misspellings feature was removed from MediaWiki 1.5, which this wiki upgraded to in January 2006. The Misspellings feature, along with other parts of Special:Maintenance, were not maintained within the MediaWiki code and the development team announced that they would need to be removed unless they were rewritten in an efficient and safe manner in the future. Angela (talk) 09:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok thanks. --Azizlight 09:40, 29 January 2006 (UTC)