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Why is this character here? QuentinGeorge 09:58, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Is he not real? -- Riffsyphon1024 10:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It's real, but why is it in Sith Master category? QuentinGeorge 10:22, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Be a little more specific next time? ;) -- Riffsyphon1024 10:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Well, he did train an apprentice, namely Yuthura Ban. --Imperialles 14:00, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- How do we know he trained her? I know sh ecalls him 'Master', but that could be respect. Is there a direct statement of this? Either way, I don't think he really counts, as Revan and Malak were considered THE Sith masters at the time. --Fade 14:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Good point. Fixed the category. --Imperialles 16:15, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- How do we know he trained her? I know sh ecalls him 'Master', but that could be respect. Is there a direct statement of this? Either way, I don't think he really counts, as Revan and Malak were considered THE Sith masters at the time. --Fade 14:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Well, he did train an apprentice, namely Yuthura Ban. --Imperialles 14:00, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Be a little more specific next time? ;) -- Riffsyphon1024 10:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It's real, but why is it in Sith Master category? QuentinGeorge 10:22, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Can someone fix that Infobox since the code behind it is fragmented pretty badly? I don't know how to fix it. Phillowe88 21:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Nevermind. I had a dig at it and it seems to have worked. You learn something new everyday Phillowe88 21:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
How can he NOT be a Sith Master? He is the successor to Jorak Uln, who is said - in-game - to have been the former Master of the Academy. He specifically refers to Yuthura as "My apprentice", but does not refer to any of the others at the academy in such as way. Yuthura refers to him as her master, not as a show of respect but as a show of acknowledgment of his superior rank... one time saying, "Do you hear that, my master?" which is a specific address. As a Sith, as the head of the Sith Academy (which places him over the other Sith Masters there), and as the master to a Sith Apprentice, this clearly makes him a Sith Master. How this could even be disputed is beyond me. How there is even argument against him being a Sith Lord is also beyond me. When the Sith were at large, there were many Sith Lords. And it would be very unusual for one to be a Sith Master without having achieved the rank of Sith Lord somewhere along the way.--Master Dakari 00:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Master Dakari on this FOR DEFINATE! How is he even possibly NOT a master? Head of an Academy and not a master?
Yuthura Ban: "Do you hear that, my master? That is the sound of a new leader rising to replace you."
Uthar Wynn: "So the time has come, has it? You both wish to stand against a Sith Master and perish, do you? THEN SO BE IT!!"
-TheLostJedi 22:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps sith masters and sith apprentices were a rank above dark jedi, and Revan and Malak were the only sith lords? User:1705jallen
Two points
- When you rummage through his stuff in his room, he has a Jedi Master robe. Think this means he was a Jedi Master before he turned to the Sith, or is just some sort of souvenir?
- One of the Sith apprentices at the academy refers to him as the "Dark Lord of Korriban." Does this, and the fact that Yuthura refers to him as Master, make him worthy of being a Sith Lord? Kuralyov 05:44, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)
The robe thing should be in BTS, I'd say.DarthMRN 03:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Light Side Choice
Surely the choice in which you turn Yuthura Ban back to the light side should be included in the list of Revan's light side choices?
Battle of Korriban?
Is it just me, or does it seem that Revan almost-single-handedly killing Uthar, redeeming Yuthera, and wiping out the entire Sith academy on Koribban (save obviously the ones he redeemed ie. Mekel, Yuthura, Kel etc) count as a battle? Or at least a notable incident? Again, it just seems that obliterating the Sith's prized academy deserves note. Again, this could be a problem in the sense that Kreia says that "The remaining Sith turned on themselves." which they obviosly couldn't if they were all dead, but what is to say that another Sith didn't decide to restart it again? Any takers? ELV
- If there's something I dislike about this site, it's that there are people who want every duel, assassination, or fistfight to be counted as a battle. Kuralyov 03:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
- Again, I am NOT suggusting that we simply give the duel in the tomb a battle of its own (though I do agree, there are cases were people have done things almost as rediculous) I AM REFFERING TO THE FACT THAT OUTSIDE THE TOMB AFTER YOU TAKE THE AXE TO UTHAR IF YOU SAY SOMETHING THE ENTIRE FORTRESS ATTACKS YOU! If you doubt me, than play through Korriban again, killing Uthar, making sure that for whatever reason Yuthura cannot claim the mantle, that say to the Sith who questions you on this "Uthat is dead, I killed him" (or something like that) and than then "Not a Sith at all. Now excuse me." (or something like that) THE ENTIRE ACADEMY WILL ATTACK! Check it out. And yes, if we grant a FRICKING BATTLE BOX to Mustafar in which Vader basically CUTTS DOWN SOME HAPLESS SEPS WITH NO RESISTENCE THAN I MOST CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE OBLITERATION OF THE SITH'S PRIZE TRAINING GROUND DOES TOO! LOOK THIS UP BEFORE CHECKING AGAIN! ELV
- You make your point, but is that battle super-lightside canon? I think not, so therefore it never happened.DarthMRN 03:53, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Again, I am NOT suggusting that we simply give the duel in the tomb a battle of its own (though I do agree, there are cases were people have done things almost as rediculous) I AM REFFERING TO THE FACT THAT OUTSIDE THE TOMB AFTER YOU TAKE THE AXE TO UTHAR IF YOU SAY SOMETHING THE ENTIRE FORTRESS ATTACKS YOU! If you doubt me, than play through Korriban again, killing Uthar, making sure that for whatever reason Yuthura cannot claim the mantle, that say to the Sith who questions you on this "Uthat is dead, I killed him" (or something like that) and than then "Not a Sith at all. Now excuse me." (or something like that) THE ENTIRE ACADEMY WILL ATTACK! Check it out. And yes, if we grant a FRICKING BATTLE BOX to Mustafar in which Vader basically CUTTS DOWN SOME HAPLESS SEPS WITH NO RESISTENCE THAN I MOST CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE OBLITERATION OF THE SITH'S PRIZE TRAINING GROUND DOES TOO! LOOK THIS UP BEFORE CHECKING AGAIN! ELV
Purple human?
Which source says he was a human? His skin should indicate otherwise. Even Palpatine didn't go purple all over just because of the dark side.DarthMRN 03:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- After some scouting I have found the Meerian, Theelin, and Umbaran species, which logically would be more adequate species options.DarthMRN 04:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- He could've just used face paint. -LtNOWIS 04:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- There's that, but since those tattoes show through and were unlikely to have been re-applied every day if they were paint, I would go for complete color sith tattoo (such as Maul was intially assumed to have), if I were to take that stance.DarthMRN 04:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Unless sources other than conjecture confirm Uthar's humanity, I'm gonna have to list him as unknown species.DarthMRN 00:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- There's that, but since those tattoes show through and were unlikely to have been re-applied every day if they were paint, I would go for complete color sith tattoo (such as Maul was intially assumed to have), if I were to take that stance.DarthMRN 04:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- He could've just used face paint. -LtNOWIS 04:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Probably not Meerian. Meerian are a short race, and are somewhat known for their cheerful demeanor. Also, not likely to be Theelin, since Theelin have certain facial features not in common with Master Uthar (though not ruled out - there is the issue of the mutation of the species). However, Umbaran seems almost to be a perfect match for Master Uthar. Umbarans do seem to have historic connections with the Sith, including Darth Ruin of the New Sith Wars era, as well as a Sith Academy.
- There's also the thing of him calling you 'young human' or do humans refer to each other as humans? 151.202.44.4 09:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Needs a quote
I can't think of any of his quotes right now and I no longer have KotOR, can any of you find one and put it into the article? Thanks. - TopAce 11:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Lord?
Why is Wynn in the Sith Lords category? I don't recall him ever being identified as such... Charlii 22:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Dor Gal-Ram's Robe?
After a cursory glance through the game files, I've found no reference to Dor Gal-Ram or his robes in KotOR. Can anyone provide proof for it being in the game? Or is this from a KotOR-related non-game?
Zeltron?
I think Uthar Wynn is a Zeltron. The Males are mostly bald, and are red, pink or purple. --Star-Jacob 14:50, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
- That might be interesting, shame it'll never be confirmed. Pauldarklord (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Trivia?
In KOTOR 2 and the voice file found in the legacy section. Sara Kestelman as Kreia pronounces the W in his name as a V.
Is it worthy of a trivia mention? Also, any theories know why she pronounces it that way? Pauldarklord (talk) 17:30, 20 August 2025 (UTC)