Wrath of Darth Maul
Isn't Wrath of Darth Maul Cannon? I don't see why it isn't since it ties into the t.v. show —Unsigned comment by 207.195.44.218 (talk • contribs)
- Yes, it ties into the show, but it wasn't part of the show. The only stories from before April 25, 2014 that are canon are Episodes I-VI, The Clone Wars film, and The Clone Wars show. Everything else is Legends. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:40, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
Lost Stars and Color of Boxes
How do you change the color of boxes? 5 books were just released today. Also, why is Lost Stars listed after Aftermath? I just read Lost Stars and most, if not all, or it takes place long before Aftermath. Lost Starts starts 8 years after Ep. 3 and goes to about 1 year after Ep. 6. GreenDragonRanger (talk) 00:20, September 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Concerning the chronological ordering of Lost Stars and Aftermath, it would seem that a previous editor took into account the fact that Lost Stars ends after the events of Aftermath. However, the other timelines on this wiki have set the precedent of ordering canon media by earliest appearance, chronologically. I've rearranged the books in this timeline to reflect that precedent. Obi-wan Baloney (talk) 04:43, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
Categories in the Timeline
The Timeline of canon short stories has taken over the cataloging of eBooks, so I suggest that the eBooks category on this timeline be removed. Similarly, does the Short story collection category really belong on this timeline? Or the Gamebook category (given that there have been no gamebooks published or announced in the new canon)? These redundant and unnecessary categories seem to be nothing more than a holdover from the now-Legends book timeline. Obi-wan Baloney (talk) 04:53, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
Distinguishing YA and Children's
Young Adult novels and junior novels/chapter books are very different, and I don't think they belong in the same category? To understand what I'm talking about compare Lost Stars with any of the Star Wars Rebels books. Can we add a category to separate these two? Jedi.jesse (talk) 07:04, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
- As of right now, Lost Stars is the only novel to fall into this state of limbo, and giving it a category of its own might set a bad precedent. The way I see it, we can categorize the novel as a 'Young adult novel' (as the book is advertised) or as an 'Adult novel' (as was done on the Timeline of canon media). Obi-wan Baloney (talk) 11:54, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
Enough time has passed that this should be re-visited. Now there are at least four novels that need to be put into the "YA" Category, as they are different from a Junior novel, and also not the same as a regular adult novel:
Markkawika (talk) 23:59, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Even though Guardians of the Whills is not YA, I agree. There should be a YA category. THough we'd have to find one more, since it does not look good at all if they're an uneven number. Perhaps BB-8 on the Run and Chewie and the Porgs? Though we should probably wait before BB-8 releases to be sure it's original content.--ZapikCZ (talk) 20:29, August 3, 2017 (UTC)
Movie Novelizations?
Shouldn't the movie novelizations be on this "canon" list?
- My understanding is that the original movie novelizations fall under the Legends Universe but Lucasfilm acknowledged them as having some canonical elements. The novelizations themselves have some mistakes often typical in novelizations due to changes made during the filming. For example, the Ep. 6 novelization stated that Owen Lars was Obi-wan's brother but this story line was dropped and ultimately rejected by Ep. 2. GreenDragonRanger (talk) 02:28, January 10, 2016 (UTC)
- It's not so much that the books themselves are Legends. It's that, for the purposes of documenting information on Wookieepedia, we've put them into the Legends category. The official stance is that they are canon where they align with the films. Our understanding is that this means that only the parts that line up exactly with the films should be treated as canon. Any material original to the books would therefore not be treated as canon. So, until such time as we're told that the book-original material can be counted as canon, we don't include them in Legends page. Note that this only applies to the novelizations of Episodes I-VI; book-original material in The Force Awakens novelization can be counted as canon so long as it's not contradicted anywhere else. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 02:47, January 10, 2016 (UTC)
Timeline Measurement
Since the measurement of BBY/ABY seems to no longer be relevant, is the new measurement BBN/ABN (Before the Battle of Naboo/After the Battle of Naboo)? Since the young reader adaptation of The Phantom Menace has 0 under the Year column, it appears that this is so, but it would help to know for certain, as I am making a checklist of the books, and would like to know exactly where in the timeline the books are taking place.
Aprice1991 (talk) 20:33, January 3, 2016 (UTC)
- Great question! Unlike in Legends, there is no official dating system. The Galactic Standard Calendar, which was where BBY and ABY came from, hasn't been introduced into canon. Odds are it won't be; comments from some key individuals within Lucasfilm suggest that they're not too keen on using the Battle of Yavin as a dating system. So that said, Before and After the Battle of Naboo isn't an official dating system either. For the purposes of this particular page, we start at Episode I as Year 0 because there are no canonical stories set before Episode I. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 02:52, January 10, 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately after recent changes to use the BBY/ABY system, the sorting on the grid based on year no longer works except for the default. Sithforlife (talk) 16:23, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps we could introduce some code that treats "BBY" dates as negative numbers? Shayn Mikel (talk) 06:05, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
Young Readers Books
Since the timeline includes Young Readers books (which can admittedly be kind of difficult to classify), I wanted to ask how you guys decide which canon YR books to include in the timeline proper. For example, from the Little Golden Books series A New Hope appears on the list while I am a Droid does not. Similarly we had Studio Fun International's Rolling with BB-8 and The Power of the Dark Side on the timeline, but not SWR: Rebel Journal by Ezra Bridger. Or how Lightsaber Rescue (Play-A-Sound) is included, but SWFA: Flashlight Adventure (Play-A-Sound) is not.
--73.158.219.123 01:54, January 13, 2016 (UTC)
- Young readers books that tell a direct narrative story are included in the media timelines. Flashlight Adventure is an "activity book", which doesn't have a set narrative, while Lightsaber Rescue is a "storybook" and does. Rolling with BB-8 and the Power of the Dark Side are both storybooks and fit into that category as well. Ezra's Journal is not included because it is more reference title than narrative story, even though it is an in-universe reference book. I Am a Droid and the related books have just been released, and no previews for them are available online. Until we know that they tell a direct narrative, they won't be included on the timeline. --Dentface (talk) 03:05, January 13, 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. That is very helpful :) --73.158.219.123 00:10, January 14, 2016 (UTC)
Star Wars: Age of Shadows Book One: The First Republic
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Shadows-First-Republic-ebook/dp/B01D7VZFEE/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1458549809 Is this story canon or fan fiction? 104.34.250.89 08:45, March 21, 2016 (UTC)
- Given that the cover art doesn't even use the official Star Wars logo, the listed author has no other books on Amazon, and a novel or series of novels taking place that early in the timeline would have been announced and previewed extensively before release, it can safely be dismissed as fan fiction and ignored on this wiki. —Silly Dan (talk) 09:52, March 21, 2016 (UTC)
Thrawn
I updated the article to show the correct release date for Thrawn, but when I click the arrow to sort by release date, the book's entry is still at the top of the list. Does anybody know how I can fix this problem? Perhaps I messed up somewhere in moving the code. —Unsigned comment by Shayn Mikel (talk • contribs)
- I moved it back because you moved it from the wrong position, as I said in the summary it takes place before rogue one and a new hope, though I'm not sure how to fix the problem you are having I'm afraid --Lewisr (talk) 18:50, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
New category suggestion
Since some reference books, such as Star Wars Propaganda: A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy introduce characters and historical events that aren't found in narrative media, I'd like to propose that we start a section for reference books as well. I would gladly do it myself, but I wanted to make sure that we're in agreement that it fits the purpose of the page before making such a major change. If not, then my alternative suggestion would be to throw together a separate article (perhaps under the title "Timeline of canon reference works" or similar). I've included the deadlink for anyone who wants to take the initiative and get cracking. If I don't get a response within sixty (60) days, I'll assume that nobody has any objections to the proposal and get started. Shayn Mikel (talk) 06:02, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I see the need for a reference book timeline. These timeline pages only exist because the books are narrative works. (Besides, most reference books span the entire saga, so wouldn't the "timeline" basically be a list?) If the reference books were all like Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force and had in-universe content, I'd maybe see the point, but personally, I think that the timeline of galactic history is adequate enough. - Cwedin(talk) 06:18, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps a list instead? Shayn Mikel (talk) 23:32, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
- That might be better. We currently have a category for canon reference books, and we have a list of books, but the list is in dire need of improvement. That could be a good starting point. - Cwedin(talk) 00:06, February 7, 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps a list instead? Shayn Mikel (talk) 23:32, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
YR - DK Readers publications
Some books are in chronology list (Rey to the Rescue!, Rogue One: Secret Mission), but some aren't (Rebels: Fight the Empire!, Rebels: Beware the Inquisitor!, and other from dk.com/us/star-wars-brands/)... Why is that?
Books that need to be added
Thought I'd put a section here for practicality's sake. The book Canto Bight (novel) needs to be added to the timeline.--D9328 (talk) 14:37, July 25, 2017 (UTC)d9328
- It's a collection of short stories so I don't think it would go on this page, The Rise of the Empire and Tales from a Galaxy Far, Far Away: Aliens: Volume I also isn't on this for the same reason I assume --Lewisr (talk) 14:41, July 25, 2017 (UTC)
Why isn't the Doctor Aphra audiobook on here? Hatchjn (talk) 20:03, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
- It just simply hasn't been added yet, I will add it shortly. Thanks for bringing it up! --Lewisr (talk) 21:12, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
Thrawn: Alliances release date
The release date for Thrawn: Alliances is incorrect. It won't be released till July 24th 2018 unfortunately.
Star Wars Galaxy's Edge: Black Spire
The majority of this book takes place AFTER the events of Star Wars Episode VIII (only the first several pages are concurrent with Episode VII as an intro/setup for the rest of the book). I even believe its timeline location is officially listed after TLJ in the book's Official Del Rey Star Wars timeline pages. For continuity sake, I think its entry should be moved to be after the Episode VIII novel adaptation listing. TGFisKer (talk) 22:04, October 9, 2019 (UTC)
"Orientation"
Orientation is missing from the list. It takes place in 14 BBY, immediately before Lords of the Sith.Matthew Babe Stevenson (talk) 07:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's because it's on this list. SilverSunbird (talk) 07:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
"Click to hide" links not working
The links at the top of the page that say "click to hide" appear to be disabled. Those same links are working on the "Timeline of Legends Books" page, but not on this page.