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Forgive my failure to enter my full edit summary about the full Season Five trailer. I meant to say, (From the teaser's description on Star Wars.com). Bane7670 19:26, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Last Season?

It says that Hasbro feels this is the last season. I don't believe that, and even if I did, Hasbro has no say in the matter. George Lucas, Dave Filoni, and many more have either confirmed or hinted at season six. George even said it's in the works. I believe this sentence should be removed until further confirmation that Hasbro said it. If they said it, then it should be changed to reflect the opinions of George and Dave.74.215.113.92 12:21, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

  • Totally! It is a silly speculation on JTA archives' part. Seeing the Season Five trailer, it feels NOTHING like a last season of this awesome show. As the person above has clearly very well stated - everybody is acting like this is NOT the last season. SO the line should be removed from the article... --Dan Grievous (talk) 23:55, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • This is not a forum. This discussion belongs on a different website. That Hasbro has stated it feels this is the last season it true and attributed. The line will stay. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 00:37, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
      • Then what is the purpose of the talk pages to you Naru? Do you know what these talk pages are for? Just to have them around and look pretty! :D This discussion belongs here. The line is pure speculation, it will NOT stay. I guess you haven't seen the trailer for Season Five that has no indication that it is the last season or you have not heard how TCW crew are working on Season SIX.--Dan Grievous (talk) 09:05, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
        • The talk page is there to for the article, not for the article's topic. And the article says that Hasbro thinks that this is the last season, so it is not clear if it is the last season. Nahdar Vebb (talk) 10:59, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
          • Here is what Dave Filoni said on Season 5 premiere: "And one last thing — there seems to be a sentiment, or a feeling, that Season Five is somehow an end. That because we hit the magic number of 100, we are somehow at the finish line. Well, I can tell you that is not so. I think of Season Five as a beginning, a beginning of the best stories and animation we have ever done. We are only now beginning to reach our potential creatively, and my Team and I have no interest in stopping. Truly, the best is yet to come. Happy Season Five, Star Wars fans!" —Unsigned comment by 46.123.63.159 (talk • contribs)

Canadian Airdate

The episodes of new season will actually air 12 hours before the US in Canada on Teletoon, should that be added to the original air date block since it is earlier then the US time? Or are they close enough it doesn't matter? --24.142.41.110 15:57, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

  • I feel that the two different airdates can be mentioned, saying which date was the Canadian airdate and which was the American.TIEPilot051999 (talk) 00:43, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
  • I noticed it had been removed and wasn't really sure why. That it's a first-air date that's prior to the "home network" premiere date on CN is notable enough, IMO. Plus it's already like that on the Season 2 and Season 3 pages, so I don't see why this one should be any different. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 01:46, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
  • It's a good thing I live in Canada. I can enjoy the new season early. Razor Boyz (talk) 17:37, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Can we please assume that the order given by insider is correct at least up until episode 15? They've had it all right so far except they are one number off. For people who want to see when the new episodes come out, it's pretty disappointing to see that we basically only find out when the next episode comes out a few days before it actually is released. We can always change the list if it turns out to be wrong, but I say we list episode 13 as "Point of No Return", 14 as "Eminence", 15 as "Shades of Reason", and 16 as "The Lawless". we can also surmise based off previous years that all the upcoming episodes will be released every Saturday until the series ends, with the exception of the week that Valentines Day is in.

EDIT: what source gave the information that the next episode would be released on Jan. 5th? Even though it's obvious that it's because it's the first week back from Xmas break, if my previous idea is rejected, then we can't assume anything.

EDIT 2: according to Wikipedia, my assumptions are correct

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_episodes#cite_note-86

Joev14, Respect the Green (talk) 20:22, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

  • As has been stated before, nothing less of a source or website directly affiliated with Lucasfilm Ltd. or Cartoon Network is a source for anything regarding episode numbers or episode order. The network might decide to air episodes out of their story arcs for all we know. Even though that isn't likely, the point is that we can't assume air dates until the network or Lucasfilm Ltd. confirms them. As was cited in the article, a press release from Cartoon Network published on a third-party website was the source for the information on "Missing in Action." Please, let's be patient. I agree that it's not an ideal situation with Cartoon Network only releasing information a week or two in advance, but impatience is never cause to sacrifice information accuracy on the site. It's not our place to make up for the network's decision to release limited information at a time. CC7567 (talk) 02:26, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Next Few Airdates

From a new source that I can't remember I found three new airdates to include in the table.

EMINENCE will air on Jan. 19 - SHADES OF REASON will air on Jan. 26 - THE LAWLESS will air on Feb. 2

This should assist with the table. I can't remember which site I found this own but it seemed reliable to me. 60.230.97.24 07:53, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

  • If it's an official source such as SW.com, Cartoon Network, ect, then the article could reflect the airdate. JangFett (Talk) 16:17, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

These are two sites I have found that have the airdates on it. I accessed the second one yesterday and found the first one just an hour ago.

http://clonewars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Clone_Wars_Season_5 & http://epguides.com/StarWarsTheCloneWars/

Hope this helps. 60.230.97.24 09:56, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

This season has no tagline!

It has been official for some time. This season is the first one since Season One to not have a tagline in any kind of media. There is no "Army of Revenge" tagline. The only time I have seen or heard of this linked to Season 5 was on the Jedi Council forums and it was joked upon as a tagline that was made up.

If anybody who edits the tagline "Army of Revenge" in the article, please show me some actual source of that like a press release or an ad from CN.

Thank you! --Dangrievous (talk) 18:57, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

The "Who Will Fall?" Campaign

Might it be worth keeping track of the list and the current status of each of the characters somewhere (not necessarily this article)? For example, a list of the ten marking (four characters) as deceased? AHadley (talk) 20:13, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

  • We don't list trivia on the site. Viewers and readers are capable of making the connections themselves. CC7567 (talk) 20:14, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Gah, now I've been spoiled. Could you not put a warning on this talk page or remove those huge spoilers? Jamie Jones54842 (talk) 23:52, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

  • Dealt with, sorry about that. Those three episodes look to be good regardless :P AHadley (talk) 00:09, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • It's fine, you spend time on the internet, you inevitably run into spoilers. I just didn't want anyone else to spoiled. Thanks. Jamie Jones54842 (talk) 00:19, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

New Episodes

There have been a few more episodes and airdates released. I think it may be in the Star Wars Insider 139 from what I have heard, but Wikipedia also posted this in their episode listings. I believe this is the Ahsoka arc. Sabotage will air on February 9, The Jedi Who Knew Too Much will air on February 16, To Catch A Jedi will air on February 23 and The Wrong Jedi will air on March 1. 124.181.152.246 23:33, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

  • Wikipedia have had those episodes up for a while, and their source is listed as Zap2It. Although this has been a generally reliable source for TCW episodes and airdates, it is not an official one. If anyone can verify it appears in the new Insider then it can be added. I don't have it. Jamie Jones54842 (talk) 18:33, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
  • To be more accurate on the Clovis trilogy, it was said on Twitter by "Clone Wars" writers Brent Friedman and Matt Michnovetz that the Clovis trilogy was likely pushed to Season Six and that the 4-part Ahsoka arc("Sabotage", "The Jedi Who Knew Too Much", "To Catch A Jedi", and "The Wrong Jedi") will be the final arc of Season 5 and it airs after the Maul arc.
  • Here's more evidence Season 5 is 20 episodes from Teletoon as the site says "The Wrong Jedi" is the season finale episode to air in Canada March 1st:www.teletoonmedia.com/en/index.php/teletoon/highlight/category/february_2013_programming_highlights
    • I said Here's more evidence Season 5 is 20 episodes from Teletoon as the site says "The Wrong Jedi" is the season finale episode to air in Canada March 1st:www.teletoonmedia.com/en/index.php/teletoon/highlight/category/february_2013_programming_highlights. This proves the Clovis arc is pushed to S6 and the Ahsoka arc is the season ender with 20 episodes for Season 5. Also, I think the other reason why the Clovis trilogy was pushed to Season 6 was because they wanted Season 5 to be all 4-part arcs. Do you hear or see my response yet? It would help if you'd respond ya know.
      • This is a talk page—which means this is not for the topic in question, but instead how to make the article better, and you should sign your posts too if you are going to contribute on a talk page. Plus, on Twitter, the writer Brent Friedman said it himself that he doesn't know exactly when the episodes are going to air—so we should not speculate until further information. Darth Pythonis (talk) 23:13, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
        • Discussing the movement and re-scheduling of episodes is pertinent to the improvement of the article. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 23:21, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
      • Yes, but we do not have any official sources to say that the Clovis arc will be moved to Season Six and that the Ahsoka arc will be the last episodes for Season Five—which can be considered speculating and discussing about the topic in question. But if we do have an official source to say about the placement of the episodes, then it can be brought up here on the talk page. Darth Pythonis (talk) 23:46, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Season 5 with only 20 episodes?

Is that true, that Season 5 will consist of only 20 epsiodes instead of 22? Is there any confirmation of this? Or the producers didn`t give the airing dates for the last two episodes(21st and 22nd)? —Unsigned comment by 46.123.54.123 (talk • contribs)

  • As cited in the article, Zap2it has stated that "The Wrong Jedi" is the twentieth episode of the season. Teletoon Canada confirmed that the same episode is the finale, being aired in March. CC7567 (talk) 22:42, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
    • But on Teletoon it says that the finale is at 8:30 p.m. on a Friday, and aren't the episodes on Saturday mornings now? So is it possible that Teletoon is wrong? Darth Pythonis CIS roundel (Talk) 23:36, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
      • Teletoon airs the episodes in Canada, which always releases them on Fridays, a day earlier than in the US. CC7567 (talk) 00:00, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
        • I've seen from a number of sources that there might be 22 episodes after all; Desperation of Grentarik and Final Sacrifice being the extras. Of course said sources are not official. AHadley (talk) 01:25, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Promotional poster for Season 5

A "Who Will Fall?" promotional poster for The Clone Wars: Season Five is on the front of page. I have a proposal, should or could it be that the characters which already fell to death be crossed with some mild color? Just suggesting, if any liked that idea?--Ventilator86 (talk) 02:10, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Why on Earth would we do that? — DigiFluid(Whine here) 02:24, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
We don't do promotional things for Star Wars products, and we don't alter official pictures in ways like that. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 04:01, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Should we re-order?

We already knew that Revival was actually chronologically set much later in the season, but prior to Eminence. Now this has not only been confirmed by reasoning and BTS info—but also by the episode order on the DVD/BD release, where Revival has been moved from the first episode of Season 5, back to episode 13 (between Point of No Return and Eminence). Perhaps we should consider re-ordering the episodes on both this page, and in the TCW template? — DigiFluid(Whine here) 01:44, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

  • Both the Season Five article and the TCW material template reflect airing order (not chronological order)—as they should, because no matter where they take place in the overall timeline, "Revival" is still the first episode of Season Five, "Eminence" is still the fourteenth episode of Season Five, etc. The series itself has a convoluted overall timeline, as I'm sure you'll agree, but it's not our place to modify the airing order within Wookieepedia's articles; that will only make it more confusing. If readers get confused, they can either pick up a copy of the Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Episode Guide or take a look at this SH thread. CC7567 (talk) 16:54, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
    • No no, I absolutely agree with that. The chronology of the series is messy, and as you say, that's exactly what the Episode Guide exists for: to clarify the timeline. I think maybe I was vague/unclear in my wording... In the original airing order—yes, Revival is the first episode of season 5. However, in the home video (DVD/BD) release, this is literally no longer the case. A War on Two Fronts is now listed as the first episode of the season, with Revival moved back to number 13. This is how the episodes are laid out on the Season 5 set (photo from my own set), which, to me, would indicate that the official numbering of Season 5 episodes has changed. To be clear, I'm not particularly pushing for or married to the idea of rejigging our pages, I just felt that it merited consideration since this is the layout presented in an official retail product. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 23:03, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
      • I'm aware that the DVD/Blu-ray releases have reflected the chronological material in this case, but yeah, it wouldn't be proper to modify the airing order within the site's articles. In-universe chronology can of course change, but out-of-universe is, well, not subject to change for obvious reasons. CC7567 (talk) 02:25, November 24, 2013 (UTC)