Talk: Talz/Legends

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A Clone Wars era Talz Jedi contradicts the story given in Galaxy Guide 4, which implies that the Imperials arriving to enslave the Talz was their first contact. If the Old Republic Jedi only visited long enough to take a young Talz for training, the rest of the backstory could still be valid. Silly Dan 13:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think the Clone Wars cartoon overrules the Galaxy Guide 4. The backstory probably works if you omit the word "first" --Death Regis 13:29, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The cartoon is a higher canon than the stats and story in a guide, unless a movie contradicts the cartoon, which hasn't happened yet. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:18, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Right, though nothing says the Talz weren't primitive slaves under Imperial rule. If a later Expanded Universe story, or even a Wizards of the Coast game supplment says otherwise, this article should be changed to reflect that (possibly with a note mentioning how the story used to go.) Silly Dan 23:59, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• I added a phrase noting the fact that the Jedi was anomalous. The two sources aren't difficult to reconcile, given how many examples we have of aliens wandering the galaxy before their species in general is known. Though it should be noted that the cartoon is no more or less canon than GG4 is. jSarek 11:45, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • I'd say the outcome is a retcon similar to that of the Quarren and Mon Calamari. QuentinGeorge 11:50, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • I doubt such a major retcon is necessary. We only have one anomalous figure, rather than an entire senatorial committee and major battle on the home planet to explain away. jSarek 11:53, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Major Edit

• Hey, just made changed the layout and descriptions for a more complete entry. Geekmasterflash 22:23, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Can they nopen thier mouth

so can a Talz open its mouth—Unsigned comment by Soundwave312 (talk • contribs)

• Good question. The article says "most sources" say they can't, but which ones? —Silly Dan _(talk) 21:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

So What's Up with it

• Do we know if the Talz in Clone Wars were just a clan that crashed on the planet or, what? WILDEYE N-25 23:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

most likely those talz were brought to the planet unlawfullly by pirates or slavers for unknown purposes, its been indicated that although primitive they do make there way around the galaxy.

MISSING

there are some major aspects concerning talz biology that appear to be missing from this article

It's a wiki; please feel free to edit the article yourself. Just be sure to cite your sources. Thanks, ~ SavageBob 09:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

i have an incredibly difficult time putting thoughts into words that people can understand, heres a hint for anybody who does want to edit please for the love of god read muftaks story

Cocoon?

There is a reference to Talz hatching from cocoons in Play It Again, Figrin D'an: The Tale of Muftak and Kabe it says "When he'd awakened that day long ago, standing beside his shredded cocoon, he'd figured that his people had originated on another world-which one, he had no idea." So should this be added to the Biology section? --Timballist0 02:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone have a problem with me adding this bit about cocoons to the Biology and Culture or Behind the Scenes section? --Timballist0 21:13, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Jedi/relation

Can the Talz become jedi? And are they related to wampas.

• They are not related to wampas. They can become Jedi. See Foul Moudama. --Eyrezer 07:40, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Opening Quote Neutrality Dispute

The Chi Cho quote at the beginning of the article strikes me as inappropriate. It's a pretty biased statement from a character portrayed as an arrogant bigot in the "Trespass" episode. Maybe it's not a big deal, but seems like a strange way to open an article that's supposed to be neutral and fair and balanced, giving the reader the initial impression that yes that's the way the Talz are, when the source episode itself contradicts that notion. 71.8.83.18 19:44, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

• Woops, wasn't signed in, this is mine. Xavic Kae 19:52, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Pacifists? Or Not?

Whatever happened to the concept of Talz being naturally pacifists? Was that retconned away? I remember in several EU sources...off the top of my head, some of the X-Wing novels and perhaps the Talz story from the Tales From Mos Eisley Cantina (not sure on that one, fuzzy memory of it)...that state that the Talz were unsuited for violence (i.e. in one of the X-Wing books, a Talz pilot being transferred to a non-combat flying position because of excessive psychological stress b/c combat going against the Talz's natural pacifistic nature...also I think in Iron Fist, the Talz that's enraged and roaring, the POV character reflecting on how that was unnatural for a Talz). Is all that just an erroneous notion I picked up or did that idea get retconned away with things like the Orto Plutonia warrior Talz, etc.? 71.8.83.18 19:51, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

• Woops, wasn't signed in, this is mine. Xavic Kae 19:52, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, we're talking about a tv show that chose to totally ignore Grievous' past history from the EU and create something entirely different. The fact that they would ignore what the EU says about the Talz, while frustrating, is not very surprising.--HanShotFirst 06:21, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

fingers/claws

many sources show the talz with 3 large claws, others with 5, more finger like claws? this might want to be mentioned

orto plutonian talz possible origin

Sooo, I read (in the Alzoc III article) that the Rakata, -who we all know as a very important species that transplanted many aliens from their native planet to other planets they couldn't possibly have gotten to themselves- was at one point present on the original talz homeworld of Alzoc III, which brings us to my point, I think the Rakata took some of the Alzoc III talz and put them on Orto Plutonis for some reason.

sorry, forgot to sign. --Tristan7grunt 11:50, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

• It's possible, and probably the intent of the authors for that to be the case, but until an official source says so, it's speculation. Per the header at the top of the page, we can't really discuss it here, though. Keep your eyes peeled for updates; maybe some source will say something official eventually! ~Savage 15:31, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I hope someone does canonize that, it seems like the best way to show how the talz ended up there. --Tristan7grunt 16:59, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

not mammals

while trying to find a link o a theoretical "species of orto plutonia" link at the bottom of this page, I came across a "mammal species" link. I don't see any mammal characteristics besides the fur, and that could easily be explained away, I think they look more like an insectoid or arachnoid species, seeing as they have multiple eyes, an insect like proboscis, and that brief mention that they come from cocoons, none of these are remotely mammalian traits, can we please get rid of that link, or at least link talz to a yet unmade "species without classifications" article?--Tristan7grunt 02:14, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

• They're mammals, per Alien Encounters p. 182. Star Wars is a weird place. ~Savage 12:49, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

hopefully someone will retcon that,have star wars make a little more sense. --12.187.95.171 19:35, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Coccoon Dismissal?

Why the casual dismissal of the cocoon statement? tis rather integral to the story... he awoke having just emerged from the cocoon, with no knowledge of where he came from... only knowing his peoples language. This page just completely disregards cocoons... why? I mean, I get that it wasnt mentioned elsewhere, but that is true for a lot of biological facts for a lot of species. ralok (talk) 00:34, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Force-sensitive Species?

In which publication is this race noted as being generally force-sensitive??? I can find no information that states Talz are any more or less force-sensitive then say humans. Please help. -- Frank V Bonura 12:14, July 8, 2018 (UTC)