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I'm not sure how to word this in the article, so I'll just leave it here for someone who can. The eight lasers ringing the center are called tributiary (sp?) lasers. And I'm not sure if all the superlasers had them. The Eclipse- and Sovereign-class Star Destoyers had superlasers, and I don't recall seeing anything more than a single barrel. Shadowtrooper 22:10, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

  • The DESB calls the superlasers on the Eclipses and Sovereigns "Axial Superlasers." My interpretation of the term has always been that an axial superlaser fired along a single axis - that is, did not have tributaries originating at distributed points. And, as you note, the pictures of these ships don't seem to indicate any structures like those found on the Death Stars. JSarek 01:36, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I think it's because the superlaser fired along the main axis of the ship. It may have been only one of the 8 (or 9) tributing beams of a real Death Star gun.--Commander Mike 03:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

The Eclipse superlaser does have several feeding beams; Empire At War shows that. -SWF

can anyone

can anyone check errors (mainly - language)? I'm not as good in english as I should be to write such article, but i made my best. Also please check schema image of inside of Superlaser (Superlaser-inside-schema.jpg)

Hello??

This article is in a very poor condition. Either scrap it completely and start over or get a whole team together to fix this thing up. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:30, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)

"most powerful energy weapon ever built"?

Wouldn't Centerpoint Station's "hyperspace tractor beam", which can blow up stars, qualify as an energy weapon? It certainly isn't a projectile weapon. 68.47.234.131 23:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Actually, I think the superlaser would still come out on top. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 23:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
  • It is a fairly subjective assertion. It may be a good idea to remove or weaselize that sentence, but I'm not going to do it. Topics related to the Death Stars always seem to spark edit wars, and I'm not in the mood for one right now. —Darth Culator (talk) 23:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Republic superlaser

Wasn't there a Republic superlaser weapon in one of the Medstar books? Kuralyov 22:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Power

What is the source for the power estimate of 2.4*10^32 W? I only found this, but that says that 2.4*10^32 J is the minimum energy to destroy the planet. The duration of the beam is about 0.21s (which is 5 frames in the movie), so the power must be at least aabout 10^33 W.

But if you read further in the text, you can read, that the energy is much higher than 2.4*10^32 J because of the speed of the explosion of the planet. Also the maximum Energy is 3.4x10^38 J, which leads to a maximum power of about 1.7*10^39 W.

Also all this calculations are based on the assumption, that the power of the superlaser is constant during the whole shot. If it is not canstant, the maximum power could be much higher. -80.108.234.164 05:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

this article (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Beam/DeathStar.html) states that the energy required to destroy an earth-like planet, such as alderaan, would be 2.4E32 Joules (which can be translated to watts, since a watt is 1 joule per second), but alderaan was blasted apart at a velocity much greater than necessary. this article (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/Beam/Alderaan.html) comes up with 1E38 Joules for the death star's capacity based on the clip in episode 4 when alderaan is destroyed. the movies are the highest form of canon.Carbonox-infernox 18:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

The source is a gravitational potential energy integral based on the planet earth but the required energy varies, as for the constancy of beam power it is irrelevant power outputs are simply calculated on an average per second basis based on the energy released.

Superlaser Definition Wrong

the article says that the Superlaser is a superweapon, and often used for destroying Planets. That does not seem to be the main definition of a superlaser; the Dubrillion one was a planetary defense weapon and the Republic LAAT Gunships have 2 smll superladers on them.

The main definition seems to be that a superlaaer is simply several small lasers merging

  • Wrong. In addition, the LAAT/i did not have two superlasers. Superlasers are superweapons used to destroy large ships or planets. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 23:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
    • What about that creature thing created by those ancent people if you dont know what im talking about cheak out the upcoming featured articles
      • "creature thing created by those anc[i]ent people". <sigh>... —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 20:08, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Seems logical to me to say that any energy weapon created by the convergence of multiple beams of blaster energy is a superlaser. After all, in real life, we call a 25mm and a 16 inch gun cannons either way. Just because it's bigger doesn't make it different, but having a different form, well, that means something.

Well.....

Well,if you read Droid Revolution,youll find out what said ig88a fired that superlaser.Because ig88a "was" the 2nd Death star at the time. Darth Whatever

  • Alright, you got me there. Please source your additions next time though. -- Riffsyphon1024 20:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • how do you do that? Darth Whatever
    • While there is a chance IG-88A did fire it (even though Palpatine gave the order to fire at will), that doesn't mean the caption of the image should be changed. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 23:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Anyway, the way Darth Whatever had the caption was ridiculous. Whether or not IG-88 was using it, it was still the Death Star which was firing the superlasers, not him. The caption doesn't say Death Star Gunners firing at the Mon Cal cruisers, does it? AckbarSig TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar (It's A Trap!) 12:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Other Definition

This explains some of the contraversies. I believe that a super laser does not just creat a huge explosion. Acording to Death Star Alderan was transported to hyperspace before its destruction. I believe that when reped up to full power the super laser sends objects into hyperspace as well as created an explosion. This solves some of the power isueses. When firing at a planet the super laser converts the planet to hyperspace, the planets own mass shadow as well as vibrations tear the planet apart as whell as converting mass to energy. The proses goes on till the planet is energy and slag. The target world is finaly destroued when the energy is realeased into real space, creating an explosion. After the bang the energy is shifted back to matter. This proseadure is inefective against ships desighned for hyperspace, but the super laser also creates a realitivly small explosion on its own which can incinterate space ships. This theory states that a super laser is simple another type of laser. Sorry about the spelling mistakes, I have minor dislecsia. --Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin 03:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

  • To be clear when the death shot alderan at nearly 100% it completly destroyed the planet with ease using the desctibed method. But at the tree percent it took to incinterate the lurehulk was just shear fir power. So on highlevels superlaseres use hyperspace as well as their own explosion and on lower they use mainly brute strainth explosions whhich are helped by hyperspace vibrations. Just moving a ship to hyperspace will not destroy it. Also super laseres at their higher frequensies are patly in hyper space as energy is easer to aquire and to move through hyperspace. Using dual methods is probly to blame for superlasers not looking solid--Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin 03:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
The hyperspace effect is considered the result of the higher energy outputs , similar to the hyper-matter reactors that power ships which is stated as a result of fusion reactors somehow constraining tachyons in realspace

Death Star focus

This page seems to be focused too intently on the Death Star superlaser specificaly, rather than Superlasers as a type of weapon. I think someone should make a seperate page for the Death Star laser and specify the difference between the two.--Gbadude3 23:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Figure Regarding First Death Star Superlaser Power Output

Though, to my knowledge, there is no canonical source explicitly stating the power output, the figure itself is stated on the SWTC website. Since this is an out-of-universe site, would it be more appropriate to move that possible figure to the "Behind the Scenes" section? —Unsigned comment by Hase Rux (talk • contribs)

More is needed

"There are two types of superlasers, the Concave Dish Composite Beam Superlaser and the Coaxial Superlaser. The Concave Dish Composite Beam Superlaser is found on the Death Star prototype, the Death Star, the Death Star II, the Conqueror, the Tarkin, and the Darksaber. The Coaxial Superlaser is found on the Eclipse, the Eclipse II, and the four Sovereign-class Super Star Destroyers, the Autarch, the Despot, the Heresiarch, and the Sovereign."

The beginning of the article really needs this second paragraph. The Eclipse's superlaser, and in turn the Eclipse II and the Sovereign-class Star Dreadnoughts since they have the same design, was called a Coaxial Superlaser in its tooltip in Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption. A page could really be used on Coaxial Superlaser.

I refuse to call the Eclipse and the Sovereign-classes official class name "Super Star Destroyer", it is complete and totally illogical. What else could it be besides Star Dreadnought? Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 17:05, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Unlisted Superlaser

I would just like to bring to attention to anyone who is good at editing these pages, there has also recently been a possible other superlaser in STAR WARS: The Old Republic, where there is a prototype ship called The Gauntlet (which strongly resembles the Conquerer) and is stated as having a large prototype laser, and in one scene it is shown shotting multiple lasers into one co0ncentrated laser, similar to other superlasers. So if anyone wants to add this in, go ahead.... (also might want to think of changing who's idea it was, this thing was made 2000 years before the first Death Star's creation XD )

~Zalkar

Number of gunners

A crew of one hundred and thirty-two gunners—fourteen per amplification crystal

132/14 = ≈9.43

How many amplification crystals are there? There are eight lasers, so I would have thought 8. Not 9 and a fraction. 72.200.151.13 22:44, April 15, 2015 (UTC)