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Whitewash of Unidentified Rebel Pilot (Endor) aka "Jake Farrell"

I understand that the name "Jake Farrell" is no longer cannon since the revelation from Pablo about Star Wars in 100 Scenes, but the scene and character are still in Return of the Jedi. I noticed that the Jake Farrell/Cannon page was deleted by User:Imperators II a while back. As things stand now, if you're watching the movie and curious about who that A-wing pilot is, there is no route through the cannon pages to find out more.

Can an admin restore the page, just with a changed title to something like 'Unidentified Rebel Pilot (Endor)" or "Unidentified Rebel A-wing Pilot (Endor)"? Maybe User:Lewisr? I'm reluctant to go to the work to make the page myself only to have it deleted by well meaning but more active users. I feel the chances of it not getting deleted would be better if someone with more credibility/edits begins the process. Random00021 (talk) 03:24, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

    • That makes sense, thanks for clarifying. Random00021 (talk) 14:50, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

General Comment

The first sentence of the Characteristics sections and the first sentence of the History section are almost exactly the same. Is there a reason we can't remove one of them? --Random00021 (talk) 17:38, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Errors

  • There seems to be some suspect information on this page, though I don't have access to some of the sources cited. For example, it seems odd that the manufacturer would be listed as Kuat. Also, while I don't have access to it, the Blade Squadron elements seem odd as the other entries indicate that Blade Squadron was comprised of B-Wings. --Random00021 (talk) 01:24, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
    • I just checked both sources to confirm, and they are both correct. First, per Ultimate Star Wars, A-wings were manufactured by Kuat Systems Engineering. Second, per Blade Squadron, Fox flew an A-wing during the Battle of Endor. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 01:36, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
      • Interesting. Thanks for the confirmation!--Random00021 (talk) 15:28, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • We don't know for certain that Phoenix squadron was using A-Wings in Rebels. They are not named on screen. It is possible that these were actually R-22 Spearheads, the predecessor to the RZ-1.--Void2258 (talk) 00:59, June 22, 2015 (UTC)
    • From the Databank: "Phoenix Squadron was an elite group of A-wings in one of the first larger rebel collectives." - Brandon Rhea(talk) 01:09, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

I heard somewhere from one of the developer commentaries that these were indeed R-22 Spearheads. Plus external appearances differ from the RZ-1 (not just paintings, but engine configurations and larger Laser Cannons) Meaning that these are different A-Wing models.

  • The physical differences are explained in the Databank entry as well, in the Galactic Civil War section. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:37, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
    • What's up with the A-wing in Blade though? Escape pod, heavy armor? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:47, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
      • There were a lot of oddities in Blade Squadron. One thing I did like though was idea of a squadron of mixed fighter types. All sources, except Blade Squadron, have Red, Gray, and Green squadrons as all the same type of fighter for each group when in the movie it is pretty clear that the groups were composed of a mix of types.--Random00021 (talk) 03:44, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

"Standard" A-wing

The Databank makes it clear that the A-wings seen in ROTJ are the modified, shieldless version. Should the main image on this page be a screen grab from the Rebels version since that appears to be the "standard" unmodified design? Same for the Y-wing. Or is it preferable to keep the more famous rebel alliance version in the inbox, despite the fact that these are not the "official" version in-universe? Gonkgonkgonk (talk) 14:02, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

R-22 Spearhead?

Just curious, can anyone with the new Star Wars: Complete Locations confirm whether there is mention of the R-22 Spearhead or H-60 Tempest in Great Temple entry like in the 2005 edition? Random00021 (talk) 21:33, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

  • Apparently so for the H-60 here but apparently not on the R-22 Spearhead front as far as I know --Lewisr (talk) 21:44, October 30, 2016 (UTC)
    • The new edition does not mention R-22s, and the R-22 in this photo has been relabeled as an "A-wing starfighter adorned with unit marking of Phoenix Squadron." - Cwedin(talk) 22:53, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

The Last Jedi

The A-Wings used by the Resistance on that battle are not RZ-1, as they have a different shape and cockpit design. It can be easily noted in this picture http://yakfaceforums.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/TLJ_awing.jpeg I think that we should remove the appearance unless someone actually proves that both models appear in the movie. --GLTh3Pr0 (talk) 14:42, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

  • I agree. The X-wings and TIE fighters in TFA are different models so I see no reason not to consider this different-looking A-wing a different model too. -- Dr. Porter Resistance starbird (Talk|Contribs) 06:36, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Is it accurate to call the RZ-1 an actual Kuat Systems Engineering product?

Perhaps it's just me, but I think the article is a tad bit misleading right now. The databank states that the Rebel Alliance recovered a batch of Kuat Systems Engineering R-22, modified them, and dubbed the result RZ-1 A-wing interceptor. Star Wars: A-Wing Deluxe Book and 3D Wood Model is even more precise: the Rebels obtained a batch of prototypes R-22s that belonged to the Tammuz-an royalty, and had them modified by the Underground Engineers. In other words, even though Ultimate Star Wars and Star Wars Encyclopedia of Starfighters and Other Vehicles call the RZ-1 a Kuat Systems Engineering model, the company never manufactured a ship of that name and characteristics. --Lelal Mekha The Uprising crest (Audience Room) 16:04, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Rebel Starfighter Owner's Workshop Manual info

The Starfighter Owner's Workshop Manual makes it clear that a Sirplex Z-9 shield generator is present on the Rebel-modified A-Wings. Presumably, the R-22 had a different, larger shield generator, and the Sirplex Z-9 is its replacement.

(The section on the RZ-2 also confirms its presence on the RZ-1 - stating that they were able to use smaller components - hence the shorter shield generator section behind the cockpit.)

It also revises the size of the RZ-1 downwards - instead of 9.6m long, as in Legends, it is 6.9m long - consistent with the 7.68m long RZ-2 being portrayed as longer than the RZ-1.

--2A00:23C5:7F47:1B00:8EC:130A:B2B:A08D 14:39, November 16, 2019 (UTC)