Talk: Quarsh Panaka/Legends

Article milestones Date Process Result October 24, 2006 Featured article nomination Failure December 3, 2006 Failed Featured article nominee January 21, 2007 Featured article nomination Success February 6, 2007 Featured article by Thefourdotelipsis December 20, 2009 Featured article review Removed February 28, 2010 Former Featured article
Current status: Former Featured article

Secret Wedding

I've been talking with friends online about Panaka. The bio says he informed Palpatine of Padme's and Anakin's secret wedding upon learning of it. Does any source detail how he learned of it? There's the question because of their attempts to keep it secret. Did Padme make the arrangements through Panaka or Typho or did the clergyman break? Or did one of Panakas men stumble into the ceremony or something? This is a detail that we would appreciate fleshed out if and when that info becomes available. Agree? Medleystudios72 19:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

According to my sources, Padme told Panaka and Typho, and although his nephew remained loyal to Padme and remained silent, Panaka told the Chancellor. I mean, that is so STUPID! Why can't he keep a secret. I think Panaka is an IDIOT and HE is the undoing of the Republic and Anakin and Padme's marriage. I mean, why can't he keep his mouth shut? And Padme actually trusted him! Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 03:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Padme's neice found out from the guy who married them, either of them may have told him 81.155.155.108 08:10, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

• This conversation is from two years ago. NaruHina ^Talk 08:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Death

I really want this character to die and I've heard from a lot of people that if this article says he does Lucasfilm will make it canon. Why do so many people want him to live? He was a terrible character. 68.199.34.30 18:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• What this article says about Panaka's death will have no effect on Lucasfilm. -- I need a name (Complain here) 18:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• You've heard wrong. We don't make the canon...we report on existing canon. Just because you hate Panaka doesn't mean you can make up scenarios about his death. Doing so is vandalism. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 18:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Sorry. Is there any way us fans can convince Lucasfilm to finally kill him off?68.199.34.30 18:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Episode III

Is Panaka in Episode III?, I didn't notice him. If he isn't why is there an Episode III spoiler template on this page? —Unsigned comment by Darth Mantus (talk • contribs)

• No, he's not in Episode III. The info about Moff Panaka comes from Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy, and has no bearing on RotS Kwenn 19:35, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Has it been confirmed that Moff Panaka is the Panaka we know from Ep. I? --Master Starkeiller 14:43, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • I think Panaka is in Episode III. If you look, right before Padme leaves for Mustafar in her Naboo Cruiser, on the hovering landing pad, a man is chasing her and says "Are you sure you don't want me to come with you, Your Majesty?" When I get home (I'm at school now) I'll give the exact DVD time count, but I think its Panaka because he has dark skin and is dressed in a similar fashion.(comment by CptKenobi)
      • That's Typho. StarNeptune 19:23, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        • They are related so they may look similar. --Darth Mantus 20:36, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
          • Ah... excuse me then. I wondered why Panaka's article had no mention of him. My bad.CptKenobi 21:38, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Supertool

Dude... Panaka became a Moff. That makes him a complete tool. Cutch 01:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No silly, that makes him totally awesome. --Exor 05:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, the "tool" thing was a featured quote earlier in the year so I thought I'd check it out. But does that mean General Madine was also a tool before he defected to the Rebellion? Panaka didn't exhibit any particularly nasty behaviour before the rise of the Empire, so my guess would be that he merely got fooled by Palpatine like everybody else and accepted a promotion when it was offered to him. The real question should be "What kind of a ruler was he?" Benevolent, or cruel?--HanShotFirst 18:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Fate?

We've had people adding lines like "It's not known what happened to him after the Liberation of Naboo", which is an almost information free-sentence as there's no reason to assume he was even on Naboo at the time. We also just had someone claim he died at the Battle of Endor, which I think we should leave out unless someone can source this. (And no, the fact that Palpatine had a present from Panaka on board doesn't mean anything.) Can we agree to leave such speculation out? —Silly Dan _(talk) 00:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

• We could put a "Panaka's fate is unknown" instead of that sentence. We should also say that Panaka's fate has yet to be established in a canonical source in the behind the scenes section. -- SFH 01:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Okay, I'll admit that my original paragraph on Panaka's fate, which implied that he may have been killed or captured, had a bit too much speculation. However, I think that my newer sentence on the subject, which simply states that his fate following the Liberation of Naboo is unknown, is perfectly fine. It doesn't matter whether or not he was actually on Naboo at the time, he was the Moff of that sector. With Naboo no longer under Imperial control, they would no longer have a Moff, thus he would be affected by it. It's unknown how he would be affected- he could've been executed or jailed, he could've kept his title as governor of Naboo for the New Republic, he could've become a normal citizen or resumed his former duties- but the fact that he had been affected should be mentioned in one way or another. --199.79.168.160 06:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
    • We actually have no source that Naboo even seceeded from the Empire - the revolt could have been put down, just like the one on Coruscant. QuentinGeorge 07:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Actually, it's a known fact that Naboo does leave the Empire and joins the New Republic, check the Naboo and Liberation of Naboo articles for the main details. --199.79.168.160 08:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Gentle reminder, when questioning fanon, it's generally not good to point to other fanon as an example. I repeat: There is no canon source that explicitly states the Naboo seceeded from the Empire. QuentinGeorge 03:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
    • On the other hand, he may have died or left his position and moved somewhere else before Naboo's seccession. We really have no idea. —Silly Dan _(talk) 23:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I find it fascinating how people keep adding that he died somehow. I mean, making fun of Threepio's femininity is one thing, and while messing with it on the wiki is uncalled for, one can see where the idea comes from. But what is the motivation for killing Panaka? I just don't get it. -- Ozzel 09:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• • • • There was a rumor a while back that if people kept editing the Panaka page to say he died that Lucasfilm would officially make it canon, that could be the cause of a lot of it.
    • Interesting that a supposed good guy like him would wind up Palpatine's toady. :P 72.228.255.171 04:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Where does it say he knew of Padme's marriage? Probably in Death on Naboo, right? As to the above quote, I thought he was a jerk all along. He rudely doubted the Gungans, Padme's plan, probably 5 other things. -Aiddat 21:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Which makes him perfect for Palpatine's xenophobia. And the complaining. :p NKSCF 16:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Birthdate?

• Was Quarsh Panaka born 80 BBY or 75 BBY? Jaywin 20:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I would have thought 75 BBY because that would make him in his 40's in TPM Brisky 16:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

• • This threat is very old, but he wasn't at his 40's in TPM. He was at his 40's in AOTC which was set 10 years after events of TPM. Jedi Marty 01:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Bio

The biography has been edited to fit within the norms of the English language. —Unsigned comment by 71.201.40.103 (talk • contribs)

Contest

• I remember reading that Captain Tarpals challenged Panaka to contest of marksmanship. Is this true?--Darth Oblivion^Comlink 18:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Ah, yes...now what was that from...was it the Incredible Cross Sections book? .... 11:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
    • No, it was from the The New Essential Guide to Characters, page 128. Atarumaster88 ^{(Audience Chamber)} 05:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Yeah...quickest eyes on Naboo. .... 05:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

NPOV?

Where'd the info that Panaka tipped off Palpatine come from? And what's the comment about the New Order being to Panaka's advantage about? It may be true, but it's derogatory OOU--The Erl

• Episode III Visual Dictionary. .... 05:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Quote

We need a different quote. The current one doesn't really fit the purpose of the main quote and reveals little about Panaka. Unit 8311 15:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree! Besides that line fits the battle of Naboo better any ways!! --User:R2-Droid

• It reveals he was a pessimist. Thefourdotelipsis 10:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Hypocrite & Traitor

After all his grandstanding and "alleged" concern for Padme, he turns out to be a tool for Palpy and then accepts a position as Moff where he tortures and murders Rebel fighters. The guy is dirt and should be condemned in the article for his betrayal of everything he claimed to be supportive of, including Padme and the Republic. TrueJedi 13:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• See here. Unit 8311 14:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Unit 8311, thank you for taking the time to point out the NPOV issue regarding this article. Please let me clarify that I only meant that Panaka's words and attitude towards the Republic and the Galatic Empire should be used to demonstrate his betrayal and hyprocrisy of Padme and the Republic. I would think that this could be done in a NPOV fashion. I thought that perhaps someone besides myself might be interested in undertaking such a task. Again, thank you for your time. TrueJedi 17:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

"Notoriously Conservative"---Is this really canon?

Is there really a canonical source that describes Panaka as "notoriously conservative?" That doesn't really make sense in terms of Naboo politics. If Naboo was traditionally pacifistic and had no military, then wouldn't wanting to change that be a progressive idea? I'm also somewhat confused about Wookiepedia's treatment of politics in the Galaxy as a whole. Panaka, a staunch Imperial supporter and leader, is described as conservative. But it also describes Aak Aak---a Gran senator who strongly supported Palpatine's gaining of more and more emergency powers and a dedicated Jedi-hater---as progressive. It also describes the Core faction, which supported Palpatine, as liberal and the Rim faction, which opposed him, as conservative. Very confusing.

• Perhaps he was conservative in that he wanted to build up the military on an otherwise peaceful planet. Qui-Gon Jinn was a noted maverick Jedi and quite liberal by those standards, perhaps Panaka in disagreeing with him repeatedly is deemed as conservative. Kalin Sorn 15:37, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

conservative means to be opposed to change, so if typho was opposed to change, or wanted to make thing how they used to be then he was conservative, simple 81.155.155.108 08:21, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

typho?

in the article it mentions that some events hapen in star wars galaxies (around 0 bby i think), and that the new member gets assigned to colonel typho, but according to couruscant nights 2 street of shadows, hes dead long before then, is this a different typho, or just a continuity error? 81.155.155.108 08:18, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Galaxies info

"In appreciation of the bravery, Panaka rewarded the Royal Security Forces agents with a considerable amount of credits and a special Royal Security Forces jacket, and relocated them to the command of Colonel Typho." The part about Typho can no longer be considered canon, due to that Death on Naboo comic. Perhaps keep everything else, and maybe relocate that Typho stuff to the BTS, and explain the inconsistency, and why it cannot be canon? Hanzo Hasashi 18:05, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

If he never told Palpatine

If Panaka never told Palpatine about Anakin and Padme's marriage, (Possible chance) Anakin would still be a Jedi and is able to raise his kids. I don't understand why Panaka would tell Palpatine...probably out of loyalty or he hates secrets. If I were him, i'd keep it a secret rather than spilling the beans to the Dark Lord. —Unsigned comment by Jackalex13 (talk • contribs)