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I was under the impression that the Phase IIIs never saw production other than the one time General Mohc became one, and I was under the further impression that they were to be the phase in which the troopers were actually human instead of droid. But their card for the Star Wars Miniatures game seems to indicate that some were produced, and they were in fact droids. Are there any other sources for this? -BaronGrackle 18:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Okay, back on this. Every single source I have found (including the Databank as well as the minis webpage I just added to external links) indicates that Mohc's personal Phase III was the only one built. They are included in the Star Wars minis game simply as an entertaining what-if. I haven't played Forces of Corruption, but is it possible that the presence of the Phase III in one's game (as well as the Arc Hammer, apparently) is similar to the skirmish modes in Battlefront and Battlefront II? Consider that you must build the Arc Hammer over any planet to produce them, but canon establishes that Kyle Katarn destroyed the Arc Hammer before any other Phase III's were made. So can we consider the presence of multiple Phase III's to be non-canon? -BaronGrackle 15:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
    • They appear in the campaign story, on Dathomir and in a museum on Coruscant. There's few of them though and I think Phase II's appear more commonly. -- I need a name (Complain here) 18:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Aside from them appearing in a museum on Coruscant, the rest is just due to gameplay. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 20:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
        • So... on the Dathomir level, the player has the OPTION to build Phase IIIs, but is not required to in order to complete the mission? And in the Coruscant museum, the Phase IIIs are deactivated and on display? Is that the case? -BaronGrackle 16:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Phase IIIs are part of the enemy forces on Dathomir. You play as the Zann Consortium in the campaign, so there's no option of building Phase IIIs yourself. There's 2 groups of the 3 different phases in the Coruscant level which come to life and attack you, and then about 3 more Phase IIIs turn up later in the level too. -- I need a name (Complain here) 17:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Azizlight has pointed out in the Dark trooper article that the Phase IIIs in this game are non-canon. His source is Leland Chee:

"Is the Empire's use of Dark Troopers in battles occuring in games such as Battlefront II, Galactic Battlegrounds and Empire at War: Forces of Corruption canon?"
"I haven't noted their appearances in the in-continuity description for the Holocron's dark trooper entry. Mainly they're considered in those games for gameplay purposes."
And, I say, thank goodness that came up, what with everything else it makes trouble with (including the humanity of San Hill!) This game seems about as canonically scwewy as Rebel Assault. So what about the Trials of Obi-Wan appearance? Does anyone know much about that? -BaronGrackle 14:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

New Jedi Order era

they make refrence to Dark Troopers causing alot of pain to the Yuuzhan Vong, it's possible the project was restarted by the Remnant, the research up to that time would most likely be still available so it prolly woulden't be that costly to build a few smaller, planetside factories to crank out Dark Troopers. as for if Phase III Dark Troopers were armoured suits or battle droids/cyborgs, the answer is they were both, they could opperate by themselves or with a pilot, as you can imagine they would be more effective with a pilot, but they could move and fight on their own, some sources even say they, and the other Dark Trooper phases had clone brains or the brains of mortally wounded, veteran Stormtroopers and Royal Guard, sortof like a Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine Dreadnought or Starcraft's Protoss Dragoon in a way. --[{unsigned}}

  • Who do you mean by "they"? They may have been talking about the troopers in Equals and Opposites, which look kind of like DTs but were intended to be ordinary stormtroopers. --68.44.13.236 02:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Helmet/faceplate Design

Upon examining, I have found that the Phase III Dark Trooper's helmet/faceplate highly resembles Darth Vader's helmet. Could this have been done on purpose? If so, should it be mentioned in the article?

Well, you can see that the triangular mouth at the bottom resembles the triangular mouth on Vader's, the eyes look the same, and the helmet is black, but it is probably a coincidence. (Unless the designers didn't have any other ideas).--Darth Tyler(talk) 21:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

"Dwarfed the phase IIs." Wait, what?

In the first paragraph, it states how the phase III "Dwarfed even the Phase II...". However in the phase III's infobox it states it's height as 2.82 metres. The Phase II's infobox says this also, so i would like to know which is bigger, and if anyone else sees this can they please chamge it to an accurate description. Thnx :-) --Darth Jacobus 09:42, December 29, 2009 (UTC)