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Type of deaths

Should we add, either here or on the Great Jedi Purge page, a list of where/how certain Jedi die? --Fade 12:12, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

  • The Jedi that we're shown pale in comparison to the number that were actually killed in the order. Perhaps a categorization on the pages of Jedi that died that way would be easier. --SparqMan 13:11, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, yea, I know we only see a tiny amount, but we just include a sample using references from film or EU material (my brother has a comic of the film that shows Vos dying, for example) --Fade 14:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • How many, who, and how do all the jedi die in the temple?
  • It says that shaak ti escapes in operation nightfall, which is incorrect. in a deleted scene of ROTS, shaak ti dies at the hands of general grievious. —Unsigned comment by 209.194.99.74 (talk • contribs)
    • Deleted scenes aren't canon. -- I need a name (Complain here) 20:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Yeah, you should carefully read Shaak Ti's page. Deleted her death scenes saved her. And there are 2 different scenes, so you should have guessed its ambiguous canonicity. (I hope the topic is not too old) Klow 09:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Origin

If it was indeed Sifo-Dyas, not Dooku or Palpatine posing as him, who ordered the clone army, who was behind the implementation of Order 66? - Sikon [Talk] 06:36, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)

  • Sifo-Dyas ordered it, but he was murdered and impersonated by Dooku, who instructed Jango Fett to train the troopers for an eventual Order 66. QuentinGeorge 06:42, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • Source? Unless you have a source, that's just a theory on your part. Jawajoey 04:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

66 or Purge?

Should Jedi killed by Vader really be listed as Order 66 Victims? Order 66 is carried out by the clone troopers, wheras Vader's victims should be listed as Purge deaths. Jocasta Nu, Cin Drallig, Bene, Whie and Serra Kato were all killed by Vader - Kwenn

  • Well, for some of these Jedi, we don't know if they were killed by clones or Vader, minus Nu, Drallig, and Kato, at least as far as I know. So, if we know that Vader killed them, then we should remove their names. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:04, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Also, Vader was leading a detachment tasked with carrying out Order 66. Just because he wasn't a trooper doesn't mean he wasn't carrying out the order as well. jSarek 22:27, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • That's true. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:58, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        • Well, they would be listed as victoms! Vader was killing them in the name of order 66. I can hardly see why there is an argument over this. --DarthCow--Talk| Email
          • Perhaps the suvivors should be included with a small bit of text that explained how (if) they were eventually killed, to save people just looking through having to individually go through each article
              • Um, Maze (A-26) did NOT comply with order 66. He should be mentioned.

Pre-programmed?

Are we sure the order itself was programmed into them? From what I've read (SW Insider) they had prior knowledge of the order's existance, but it wasn't ingraned into them. Shadowtrooper talk 01:18, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • It wasn't pre-programmed. It's been confirmed by many (include Karen Traviss) to be just an ordinary "last-resort" order. The clones were conditioned to follow any orders, not just this specific one. If the article makes any suggestion that Order66 was "pre-programmed", it should be revised. QuentinGeorge 05:02, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Yes. I believe that I read somewhere that there were many other "last resort" orders that they knew of but did not use unless they were issued. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:45, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Battlefront II's narration seems to suggest that the clones of the 501st Legion (and possibly other legions) were well aware of what Order 66 entails, and know that it is a betrayal of the Jedi. They feel sympathy for Aayla Secura, whom they respect, and knowingly keep their intentions from Ki-Adi-Mundi - Kwenn
  • Battlefront isn't exactly great as a canon reference...anyway, the novelisation simply states that Cody responded as he'd been taught before he'd been born; "It will be done, my lord" and says he was a clone and would thus follow the order without "hesitation or regret". --Fade 18:50, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, the clones definitely knew about Order 66, but it wasn't pre-programmed into them. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:46, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • If Order 66 wasn't pre-programed, why did the clone commanders all address Palpatine as My Lord? -- SFH 22:48, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Because he's the Supreme Chancellor? I don't see how "My Lord" automatically means they are pre-programmed. QuentinGeorge 23:51, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • True, but the Supreme Chancellor was described as "Excellency". If they thought they were addressing a Sith, however, they may have been pre-programmed to respond to Palpatine in a manner that he thought was flattering. -- SFH 23:58, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Or, since they knew about the order, that could have been taught to them as their response to Palpatine. Of course, we only hear Cody (and Jag, I believe) say it. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 01:07, 19 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • And Gree also said it. -- SFH 01:24, 19 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • But, back to the matter of being pre-programmed, I say again, they knew about it, they were fully aware of it, but they didn't execute Order 66, which was like a last-case scenerio, under the Commander-in-Chief told them to execute it. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:38, 19 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Break it up, you two! :) It was pre-programmed as a last resort order, or so I have read. --DarthCow--Talk| Email
  • If all Palpatine has to say is "Execute order 66" for the clones to kill the jedi - the order must be pre-programmed, right? Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of pre-programmed? Gustafar 19:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Order 66 is a contingency Order, just like the 170 or so other contingency orders that clones were to know and memorize. Some of which no doubt included circumstances that seemed highly implausible, but not impossible. The notion that Jedi might act counter to the Republic and have to be eliminated was just such an implausible, but not impossible situation. They followed a legitimate, lawful order from the highest power in their chain of command, who (later) claimed he was the victim of an attempted assassination and coup. Period. Dredwulf60 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • If the clones were well aware of Order 66, how come the Jedi knew nothing about it? They are supposed to feel any danger, especially the well-planned ones. Even with dulled senses they should have felt that 'darkness'. (I'm sorry, I guess that's a frequent question, but I haven't quite had an idea how to find it.)
    • The Jedi don't sence "danger" specificaly, they just have quick reflexes and have the ability to sence that somone tends to hurt them, usualy in anger, but the clones only considerded Order 66 another contingency protocol to be carried out with no emotions involved.--Gbadude3 23:29, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
      • Sorry but I say that's BS, the Jedi don't just have "quick reactions" they must have some limited precognition or "spidey-sense" to be able to deflect incoming weapons fire at all. That they fail to sense the sudden aggression of every clone present simultaneously targeting them is almost as big a plot hole as the clones casting aside all loyalty, comradeship and fellow-feeling and obeying the order in the first place. Hopefully the Clone Wars series will fix this. Dukeleto 23/10/10

Origin of the name

Has anyone considered that the name "Order 66" may have come from the executive order issued by President Roosevelt that directed the interinment of Japanese Americans during World War II? The executive order was numbered 9066.

This seems an even more likely theory of the symbolism behind the name then the more obvious theory that it comes from the Mark of the Best (though the two theories are not mutually exclusive). GL likes historic trivia, and seems to keep an eye to this, particularly with naming things. Since Executive Order 9066 was a directive to act against a group that was perceived erroneously to be enemies of the state, the parallel between it and Order 66 are non-trivial.

--Jad Jermain

  • We should al least include it in the Behind the scenes section. -- SFH 20:01, 20 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:10, 20 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • Already done Jad Jermain
        • Thank you. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:20, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)
          • Mark of the best?!! Ha! You crack me up. But yeah, I see your point. (LOL)
            • Oh yeah, have you noticed on the complete list of wikicities, Pokemon is 666? I laughed. Hard. --DarthCow--Talk| Email
              • 1) Topic #36 appears to be redundant of this. 2) The talk indicates that the EO 9066 reference has been added, but it is not present; if it was removed for cause the talk should reflect this. 3) If you don't like old topics revived, please make the closure in-thread. This appears to be unresolved from my reading of the talk. --Major Sloan 19:41, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Kill more than Jedi

Did Order 66 just involve Jedi? When the clone said "All these Wookies are dead", it look like some wookies building were burning, did the clones turn on the Wookies (after all, it did say Han meet Chewe when the big guy was being held by the Empire. Plus, before "Cody" left Utapau, it look like the Utapians in red were being captured. Double D 23:43, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • Order 66 was for Jedi; the clones then started to enforce the new Empire. They were two different events. Admiral J. Nebulax 02:05, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • There were no open hostilities against the Wookiees until a couple months later, according to Dark Lord. CooperTFN 01:20, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, there were some hostilities against the Wookiees. In RotS, an AT-RT patrol finds a downed catamaran. The clone trooper's remark led me to believe they had started to hunt the Wookiees. Admiral J. Nebulax 01:23, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
        • I see what you mean, but that doesn't really prove they were fighting the wookiees. CooperTFN's right. All the clones left for several weeks, than invaded again, as depicted in Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader. -LtNOWIS 01:32, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
          • I was just led to believe that the clones thought that the Wookiees were sheltering Yoda, and therefore, they attacked them. That's just what I got from it. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:19, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
            • There were at least three high-profile Jedi on Kashyyyk at the time (Yoda, Luminara and Quinlan, possibly Kai Justiss too) two of which managed to escape the initial betrayal. I guess the clones wouldn't care about burning down a few Wookiee homes to find their quarry. Also, the RotS comic adaptation depicts Wookiees attacking the clones to help Yoda escape, so it's likely that any who learned of the nature of Order 66 would want to avenge their Jedi friends - Kwenn
              • So, it's likely that the AT-RT patrol, if not the rest of the clone troopers, hunted down some Wookiees. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:32, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
                • I'm sure somewhere on the planet during Order 66 some Wookiee fought some Clone, but there is zero evidence indicating that that particular group killed those (or any) Wookiees. The leader wouldn't feel the need to inform the others that the Wookiees were dead unless they'd just found them. CooperTFN 18:40, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
                  • "The leader wouldn't feel the need to inform the others that the Wookiees were dead unless they'd just found them". Actually, if they had been hunting them, the leader would have informed the others. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:28, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
                    • In Battlefront II, a 501st member (narrator) in the battle of Kashyyyk said they left as heroes, and returned as conquerers. Therefore they must have had hostilities against the Wookiees, and made them slaves to the Empire as Han said. Also, if you look at Episode IV, Han and Luke use Chewbacca as a "prisoner" so they can get to the detention level. The Empire was acting extremely grudgingly to Chewy. Also see Battle of Kashyyyk (Imperial Era). --DarthCow--Talk| Email
                      • It is also very possible that the AT-RT patrol had seen the catamaran come down and just came to see if there were any survivors. And the clones were under the impression that Quinlan Vos had been killed; they just couldn't find the body. After all when a Juggernaut explodes underneath someone it is unlikely any identifiable remains would be left behind.

Not all the clones liked the order

Some of the clones where not happy with the order. they had no choice but to do it,a retired clone trooper from the 327th star corps, mentioned that after the battle on felucia,that non of his men could bare look ayla secura in the eyes. as the same soldier said about the following battle,it was indeed,the beggining of the end...

  • That's not why the clone trooper said it. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:53, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • It was a 501st Clone Trooper who couldn't look Secura in the eye because he thought they were traitors.Kalas Grengar 01:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Yep. Climber --DarthCow--Talk| Email
  • He couldnt look in her in the eyes because they were being called to kill all the Jedi, and a Jedi(Secura) just saved all of them. Also, Cody had a moment of hesitation when he was trying to kill ObiWan in the ROTS novel, and we dont know what bly, gree and bacara were thinking --Razzy1319 07:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Actually, the whole "the clones knew about Order 66" idea was only in Battlefront II, which goes against canon a lot, so let's not use game references. However, the Cody hesitation is different, as well as Climber. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 11:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, as I recall, Cody's hesitation in the book consisted entirely of him wishing that Order 66 had been given before he gave Obi-Wan back his lightsaber. not exactly what I'd call true regret.

  • Good point. I could image Cody finding Obi-Wan two years later and thinking "Damn you Palpatine, why couldn't you have issued Order 66 before I gave him his lightsaber..." Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 19:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Yep, it wasn't real regret, hes carrying out his orders, he just wished it was easier is all. Climber is the only case i know of? Jedi Dude 10:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually Cody sounded upset after he shot obiwan off. Listen closely to his voice.

Please sign your posts, I have to agree with you, the way he says "blast him!" sounds slightly heisitent. Destroyer Droid 00:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

  • If I may take Jack's line...please don't restart old topics. And, I don't think his voice sounds strange. Chack Jadson 00:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Eh... it might just be me. Whatever. Destroyer Droid 01:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC) One other thing. The clone troopers were supposed to be accurate with their guns, so it makes me wonder if Cody and his team intentionally missed Obi Wan Kenobi just to make him fall into the water to survive.

agreed but if i remember right weren't droids sent down to search for him? (sorry if i'm bringing up an old topic, i'm new to this) - Tutankhamun

In the Rots book it says that the animal that Obi Wan was riding moved into the blast took most of the blast to save him which was why Obi Wan preferred a living mount instead of a machine

Suggestions for Improvement

  • Suggestions, request, and/or violent reactions?
    • Is copying wikipedia's Order 66 article be fine? --Razzy1319 07:05, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
      • Don't just replace this article with that one. Instead, integrate sections that we don't have. QuentinGeorge 07:44, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Even Piell

  • It says within Piell's bio that he was killed in the Clone Wars. Is this a mistake? If not, then his name should be removed from the list, as he was already dead by the time of Order 66. --AngelQueen 04:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Pictures?

  • This article isn't that long. Isn't four pictures for it a bit much? Opinions? --AngelQueen 05:42, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Maybe, but at the very least we shouldn't add any more. -- SFH 05:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Unknown/MIA

I didn't want to just jump into an edit with this, but I think we might want to limit the Unknown list to Jedi that there's some noteworthy reason to suspect that they might have survived the order, like Depa Billaba's coma. Otherwise, there'd be dozens of Jedi to put in it, since technically, there are a bunch we haven't actually seen die. I think it's fairly safe to say that Even Piell and the Bear Clan, for instance, didn't make it. In fact, I've heard that Lucas' assumption is that the kids Anakin finds in the council chamber are the Bear Clan. CooperTFN 23:44, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

  • That's what I said a long time ago. But someone else didn't think so because there weren't any Noghri younglings or something like that. Of course, I did say perhaps he/she became a Padawan... Anyway, I'll remove it. Admiral J. Nebulax 23:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
    • and do we need that un-named surviors part, surely they can just go under the list of survivors, theres likely alot of Jedi (% wise i mean) who survived we don't know..i changed it to what i thought but the anon just put it back the way they had it :S Jedi Dude 23:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding Images

As was already discussed a little further up this page, two images is enough for an article this short. The only way I'm letting another pic on here is if you can come up with at least one paragraph (by which I mean at least as long as the "Palpatine sent word out" paragraph) worth of new text as well. That goes for any subsequent images, too. CooperTFN 20:36, 28 January 2006 (UTC) wut dose hesatate mean that thay did not follo order 66 or that tay killed jedi instlay —Unsigned comment by 173.163.0.33 (talk • contribs)

Battlebox

  • I propose an infobox to be placed in. It would make a huge difference in the article, making it into a battle page. Bly1993 12:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Go ahead. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
      • I believe this is a mistake. Order 66 was not a battle whatsoever. It was a command which initiated the Great Jedi Purge...and the Jedi Purge was a series of murders -- also not a battle. Now other battle boxes say things like "Previous Battle - Order 66". That doesn't make sense. Wolfdog 22:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
        • No, it isn't. It was a battle, no matter what. Jedi fought back. It happened around the same time across the Galaxy. Therefore, battlebox has been restored. Admiral J. Nebulax 01:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
          • Alright then, as long as no other site calls it this. Wolfdog 02:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
            • Why would it matter? Admiral J. Nebulax 20:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
              • I agree with Wolfdog. It involved the battles of Mygeeto, Felucia, Kashyyyk, etc, etc, but a battle is a single engagement, not a single order happening all over the place at once. Besides which, attempting to list all the forces involved is impossible, attemping to set a timeline placement amongst the battles during which it occurred even moreso. It's like trying to determine whether Alderaan was destroyed before or after ANH. CooperTFN 02:04, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
                • Well, the timeline weirdness applies to all Episode 3 battles, I think. But I agree with Cooper and Wolfdog, a battle template isn't useful. A unique, non-template infobox might be appropriate.-LtNOWIS 02:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
                  • "A unique, non template infobox might be appropriate". What do you suggest? Admiral J. Nebulax 12:35, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
                    • I suggest getting rid of the box altogether. "Battles" have the word "battle", "skirmish", etc. in them. Order 66 is well, an order. There is no one battle under the Order, and certainly not one self-titled "Order 66" Wolfdog 03:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                      • I'm not opposed to any kind of box, just a "battle" one. Maybe there should be an "Event" box...that would cover O66 as well as things like the destruction of Alderaan, Ghorman Massacre, Ruusan Reformations, etc. It could have largely the same info as a battle box, but without depending on a single location or moment. CooperTFN 05:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                        • Wolfdog, do you even realize that some Jedi fought back, making it more of a battle than just a simple order? Admiral J. Nebulax 13:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                          • Two people fighting each other does not make a battle. Some people fought back during the LA riots, yet that was not the Battle of LA. CooperTFN 17:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                            • Yet this was a major event in galactic history. Admiral J. Nebulax 17:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                              • Yes. Event. Do we call the destruction of Alderaan the Battle of Alderaan? I think the creation of an event box would be perfect for this issue. CooperTFN 18:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                                • Alderaan never fought back so it wouldn't be much of a battle. Or did i miss ships attacking the Death Star? Phillowe88 18:30, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                                  • I repeat: fighting does not make something a battle. Significance does not make something a battle. Are we just gonna go around and around on this? CooperTFN 18:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                                    • Then what by your view is a battle? A battle is when two or more parties fight each other for something Phillowe88 19:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
                                      • Ah forget it. We could debate this till the world ends and still not get a clear view. Phillowe88 19:01, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Welcome to the internet. Do you (or Jack, if you're done debating) consider this a battle? CooperTFN 19:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
    • That is a fight. A battle is little more than a large scale fight. The point is when two opposing sides fight that is what is called a battle. Doesn't matter where or who. Two gangs fight, thats a battle. Two people fight, thats a small battle.Phillowe88 19:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

If you are going to use that box then include the Jedi as participants since they did participate in it (by fighting back)Phillowe88 19:34, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

    • Ok you win. That looks fine to me Phillowe88 19:39, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • This looks good now. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, it WAS and wasn't a battle. It was held all across the galaxy, so it wasn't a battle. It was between two (or more) sides, good and evil, Jedi CIS and Empire, so it was a battle. It was neither. K? --DarthCow--Talk| Email
  • Here's my take on it. Order 66 was, clearly, not a battle, anymore than Order 65, Order 37, Order 102...all Order 66 is is an order. There has been a Jedi rebellion act as you see fit (I believe, I do not have a source having heard it on a forum). The article should be renamed or split. The battle/event was the execution of Order 66. The Order 66 article should just state what Order 66 is, and link to the battle-event.
    • Uh, Order 66 was an event in addition to an order. It was never called "Execution of Order 66", just Order 66. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Just moved Zonder to the other side of list of Jedi that survived for neatness. Just a bit obsessive compulsive about that sort of thing, so I hope that is ok.

More than 100 lived

  • I'm questioning the quote stating that less than 100 jedi survived order 66.

The recent flow of survivors including those who have either not been named (ex. Verpine jedi, Death star prisoner) and those who have only been referenced (ex. naboo rebellion jedi, Qu Rahn's group) have strongly been suggesting that the list is going into at Least over 120 survivors

Effectiveness of the order

  • Was the order as sucessful as it shoud have been?

Sure it got rid of most of the jedi, but it left 150 or so survivors. I used to think the order was extremely sucessful after watching ROTS and reading the comics of the first dozen or so survivors.

But now the survivors are going over 100 with more survivors being revealed with upcoming games,comics and books. Sure its fun to learn about all of these survivors, but why don't they just use the survivors they already have introduced instead of making new ones for each new book and comic? Afterall, most of the survivors are on a To Be Continued note anyway.

The list is just starting to get a little too big is all i'm really saying.

  • To answer your question: Remember that many Jedi were not commanding clone troopers, and some got very lucky. Also, if the list gets too much longer, a category like Category:Order 66 survivors can be created, and maybe even a Category:Order 66 victims, Category:Great Jedi Purge victims, and Category:Great Jedi Purge survivors. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file) 20px 22:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
    • And remember despite all these Jedi were seeing who survive, thousands died, theres gonna be barely a hundred or just over alive, so its not that un-realistic Jedi Dude 22:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
      • 100 surviving out of an order of 10,000 means a 99% kill rate. That's effective. QuentinGeorge 23:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
    • exactly, the actural figure was 99.9% killed so i'd say well done to the clones, the surviving Jedi stories will always be interesting because there so...lucky? I think a order 66 survivor article will be useful, i'll make it tommorow. Jedi Dude 23:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Unknown names

  • On various sites and in forums, people keep on suggesting jedi survivors. Most are ill founded or ridiculous such as Morgan Katarn or Aalya Secura. But some names keep on popping up.

Does anybody know who Xavier Dade and Idnum-Ki are?

  • I know but I was wondering if the name had any connection to the Star Wars universe.
  • Xavier Dade is a highly common name on these lists and the only source I could find was this:(WEGM). Does anybody know what WEGM stands for or who Xavier is? Xeran 23:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
    • West End Games something? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 00:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Since Tremayne, who was a padawan, was in the group of agri-corps survivors, it is true that it was a mixed batch. Xavier Dade is from the Miniatures rpg and is a force sensitive Rebel who carries a lightsaber (if I remember correctly) but is never stated as a survivor of Order 66. I have him as a "possible survivor" on my own list. Charlii 07:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Some people that visit this page might be confused considering the half dozen unknown jedi on the survivor list. With your permision may I put a UN next to the unnamed Jedi on the list? Ex. Verpine Jedi, Fable's mother, Death Star Prisoner. Xeran 17:15, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

That's strange. I know this is old, but Idnum-Ki was actually one of my fanon characters, and I don't remember putting him on Wikipedia. Drewton 20px (Drewton's Holocron) 18:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Wonder Woman Jedi???

  • could they have come up with a more stupider name than "Wonder Woman Jedi"? Come on, that's just pathetic!

Quinlanfan 15:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

  • My bad, I thought that the Dark Horse people came up with that name. Sorry. :( Quinlanfan 20:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Quin's "Death"

  • The explotion from the laser blast that the Turbo Tank shot. Look on Quin's page, you'll see the picture. Quinlanfan 20:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Oh. Well, if you read the comic, you'll see he's badly scarred. Either he managed to put up some sort of Force shield or it was just the will of the Force itself. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 20:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Good point, Grand Admiral. I forgot that it said he excaped and went to another planet to heal. Quinlanfan 20:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • well, it's on Quin's page a little ways below the picture that is titled: Quinlan kills Faie. look and see for yourself. Quinlanfan 00:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • No i do not. BUT i will be getting that one for christmas. it's clone wars vol.9 right?

Quinlanfan 00:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

i neen help!!!

  • how do you all get so many diffrent userboxes? i can only find the ones on the user box page. i saw some that say: this user thinks padme is hot, or jaina is hot. how do i get to all of those?

thanks! Quinlanfan 00:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Utapauns???

  • i just watched ROTS and saw that the clones took the Utapauns hostage after Order 66. they're not jedi. what's up with that? Also in that same scene, and others, i saw some Airbourne troopers. Do any of those troopers have names?

thanks! Quinlanfan 20:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

    • First: The Utapauns were probably considered threats lesser than Jedi. Second: None of those airborne troopers have names. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 20:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
      • With the shift from Republic to Empire, the clones have new priorities, one of which is presumably subjugating worlds in the name of the Emperor. Clones also fight Wookiees post-66 in The Hidden Enemy. As to your second question, I don't think any are named, though I believe those guys are from Parjai Squad - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 20:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • No offence Admiral, but do you stay on this website 24/7? Quinlanfan 20:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Generals???

Do you all think that it is possible that the Emperor made the clone commanders, who killed their Jedi, into Generals? Darth Vader automatically made Peitt an admrial after Ozzle died. Quinlanfan 18:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

  • That guy Captain Kwenn has some UN-STAR WARS RELATED STUFF on his page. I mean VERY Bad Stuff on his page! Let me know what you think. User: UNKNOWN

Mace's Clone Commander???

  • I have a purple airbourne trooper figure from the Mace Windu's Battilion. It says that he is a clone commander. What's his name? Also do we have any information on the Clone Trooper Battilion that serves Mace? Thanks! Quinlanfan 14:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Top image change.

Personally, I think the image of clones killing Aalya Secura is better than Commander Cody talking to Palpatine. Let's face it, the extermination of Jedi by the clones was what Order 66 was all about, and this image sums it up.Unit 8311 11:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

  • The image of Cody with a hologram of Palpatine shows the execution of Order 66 better. Palpatine was the only one who could issue the order. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I disagree. The image shows absolutely nothing of what actually happened in Order 66; i.e. the decimation of the Jedi. Actually, I have an idea: why doesn't someone do a montage image of Order 66, showing various Jedi being killed? That would be the perfect image, I'm sure you'll agree.Unit 8311 18:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Providing the current main image would be the first image in that montage, yes. ;) Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 23:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Well, I suppose that would be logical, given that that was the first bit of Order 66 shown in the movie.Unit 8311 15:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
          • I'm wondering if it would be acceptable to do that, though. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 15:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
            • What do you mean?Unit 8311 19:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
              • A montage would be a fan-edited image, which we don't allow. Look how crappy the Chancellery election of 32 BBY image looks - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 19:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                • It's not that bad, Kwenn. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 21:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                  • Yeah, it is. We've got three promo shots and one EU image, all separated by a thick, pixellated Windows Paint-class blue line. Montage shots = yuk-yuk - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 21:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                    • Would you at least allow someone to try, even if it wouldn't go in the article? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 21:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                      • If anyone wants to. But I don't think it's needed. We don't have montage images for other major events (other than the aforementioned election, but meh) - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 21:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                        • But if we could get an official montage of Order 66 events, then we could put it in the infobox, right? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 21:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                          • That would at least be a better option, but still, other articles get by with a single infobox image. Characters don't need multiple images up there - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 21:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                            • Then I guess we need to vote for a main image. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 21:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
                              • How about simply cramming multiple images into the box? It'll look a bit messy though, admittedly. If we can't do that, then I vote for any image that has Jedi death in it.Unit 8311 11:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
                                • As you said, it would be messy. I don't think that'd be a good idea. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 12:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
                                  • Well, in that case I vote for any image that has Jedi being killed in it, or any image that sums up what Order 66 was about (i.e. the downfall of the Jedi Order). As for the current top image, it can go in the article somewhere. Unit 8311 13:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
                                    • The thing is, Order 66 played a much larger role in Palpatine's scheme to control the entire Galaxy. Sidious should be shown issuing the order. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 20:54, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
                                      • But the whole point of Order 66 was the decimation of the Jedi. Jedi should be shown being killed. (Hmm. My finely honed force senses tell me that this will devolve into a brainless arguement and will get us nowhere.)Unit 8311 13:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
                                        • Well, we need to get some pictures and vote on them, then. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 18:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
                                          • Hmm. A quick search on Google Images turned up nothing decent, and our own selection here at Wookieepedia is quite small. Any other ideas? Unit 8311 18:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
                                            • We could get screenshots. Basically, we've got Sidious issuing the order, Cody receiving it and the various deaths (Ki-Adi, Aayla, Plo, Stass) plus Obi-Wan and Yoda's escapes. Since they happened pretty much simultaneously, there really isn't any one death we can choose above another, so I think the current one, or one like it, will suffice, with perhaps more images in the article itself - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 19:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
                                                • Yeah, we could still place all the deaths of Jedi images in the article. I don't know how many we could fit, though. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 19:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
                                                  • I suppose you have a point, Kwenn. But tell me how to take screenshots and I might come up with something. Or, referring back to the old montage suggestion, we could create a collagey thing, a bit like this:

left|200px Unit 8311 20:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

"Only hope"

I don't think I'll get an answer, but I'll try anyway. Does anyone know why in 3 ABY Ben says that Luke is their only hope and then that Yoda says there's also Leia while there's a lot of Jedi still alive during that time and that they could also be a hope? Klow 17:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

  • 1) What does this have to do with Order 66? 2) I'll answer your question anyway. It's because Obi-Wan didn't believe Leia would be powerful enough to take down the Sith, and Obi-Wan and Yoda likely didn't know if any other Jedi survived. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 19:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Sorry if it seemed irrelevant to the subject. But it is in a way, as Yoda's word seem to contradict the Order 66 and its survivors. I thought he was so omniscient... But thanks for clarifying this anyway. They didn't know, that's all, and that's a good reason, but all these alive Jedi were still hidden during this period? People seen in Dark Forces and Jedi Knight and all? I didn't play the games, so I don't know. Klow 00:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
      • Basically every Jedi thought they were the last. Therefore, in order to ensure survival of the Jedi Order, they had to remain hidden and not get involved. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 00:14, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
        • I see. And were they supposed to wait for something or they didn't know what to do?... Isn't there a prophecy about Luke?... :-p Klow 09:36, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
          • Well, I suppose each post-Order 66 Jedi was different. Some wanted to avenge the Jedi, others wanted to abandon the order and just remain neutral, some wanted to join the Empire... There's plenty of different things that they did. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 14:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
            • Ok. But they dont' seem to really hide in games such as Jedi Knight and all. They're not really discreet. Arent there some inconsistencies anyway?... Klow 14:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • In addition to the above reasons, is it not true that most Jedi that survived Order 66 died shortly thereafter? Surviving Order 66 does not mean surviving the Great Jedi Purge, and surviving the Purge doesn't mean they survived until 3 ABY.Jawajoey 05:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
    • <sigh> 1) No. 2) Yes, but we already know that. 3) The Purge ended in 1 ABY, not 3 ABY. 4) Don't restart old topics. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20px 19:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Umm, while you may have had a point up the page, this is less than a month old, and the most recent topic on the page. jSarek 20:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Fuzzy canon status

  • I have only just noticed that somebody added several "Jedi" from "Perfect Evil" by Tokyopop. What I'm asking is if those Jedi should truly be considered canon. Aren't they from something that should have been labled as Infinites? I mean if they are canon that's fine, it's just that the information in the story seems a little off to me for it to be true StarWars canon. Xeran 04:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Ahsoka Tano?

Yeah, I know she only appeared in a few new things thus far, but is it safe to say she should be added in the Unknown/MIA section? 202.69.180.209 14:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Far as we know, she wasn't killed off as result of the order, so I don't see why not. // ~mikah~ 15:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

What????

...there was no apparent mechanism for rescinding the order; the trigger, once pulled, could not be un-pulled. Doesn't that sound a bit, well, odd?--The All-knowing Sith'ari 11:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Not anymore. :) // ~mikah~ 15:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Order 66: The Novel

I understand that the novel has been released. So shouldn't stuff be updated here?202.69.180.183 16:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Decimation

I think the word decimation should be changed. Decimation means being reduced by one tenth. Clearly more than 10 percent of the Jedi died.WhatWouldJeffDo 19:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Intergalactic warfare?

This article mentions "years of nonstop intergalactic warfare," though all of the fighting took place within the Star Wars galaxy. A small point to make, I know, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

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The following sentence is wrong because of the Republic Order 66 novel: "that is the only evidence to date of a soldier disobeying the order; in all other recorded instances, clone commandos and ARC troopers obeyed it." The Nulls and Omega did not obey.

Suggestion re. quote

I understand that the bulk of the site's traffic is probably die-hard SW fans, but I came here casually via searching for the term on Google. I'd like to suggest a quote regarding the Jedi becoming enemies of the republic rather than the current one. ("The time has come. Execute Order 66." -Palpatine) A poignant line for those who've seen the movie hundreds of times perhaps, but it came across to me like having the opener of an article about World War II be "If it's war they want, it's war they'll have." Just my thoughts. Jedi42 05:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion: Chancellor Palpatine vs. Darth Sidious

One thing that's never been clear to me and is not mentioned in this article: If Order 66 is an official GAR contingency order, it can be issued by the Chancellor himself. Yet, as we see in the movies, it's ordered to Commander Cody (and also to the clone in the starfighter pilot) by Darth Sidious, robes and all. We know that Palpatine posed (or revealed himself) as Sidious when commanding the Separatists and the Trade Federation, yet his command over the GAR is official. Given his issuing of Order 66 is perfectly justifiable (justifiable, not justified) by the attempted arrest, there seems to be no impediment that he give the order directly from his cabinet, as the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic. Opinions on this? Zaifo-dias 16:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

What makes it worse is that they even acknowledge him by Lord giving the impression that they fully understood what he was. And that's on top of everybody in the Republic not knowing about orders 65 and 66.--Ether101 Prime 19:33, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

    • I have no answer for the "lord" issue, but as far as his robed appearance goes, it didn't matter to the clones. He was using a secure channel that only the Chancellor had access to, meaning that his message was official in their eyes. It's not clear to us, but it would be a clear to a clone with loads of military protocol forced into his brain.--Demos Traxen 00:34, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Execution of the Order

I'm going to change the assertion that only a very, very small number of clones disobeyed the order. In Order 66: RCN, it makes it pretty clear that several commando squads and commanders didn't obey for whatever reason. Basically, I'm going to try and remove the 'clones are robits' stance. 70.179.98.58 01:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps a simple list?

I understand that Wookieepedia articles are written largely in expository prose and complete sentences, but a simple list in a scrollbox of known deaths and known survivors (along with a brief description of their ultimate fate, if known) would be a helpful reference for those looking for a quick summary. Ace 20:42, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Origin of the "66"

It also could come from this: 0x66 is the hex representation of the instruction reserved for user input on x86 processors.

The troops were previously trained to execute this order immediately. This way it may seem like the order 66 would be "reserved" for an outside "user" (i.e. the emperor) intervention. Just speculating though -- but the other variants are just speculations too :)

Executive order 66--Executive order 9066 seems to be a historical inspiration (FDR's internment of Japanese Americans during WWII). Its considered the most infamous executive order in US history, and the worst breach of the constitutional rights of americans in US history as well. It was even signed off by the supreme court of the US during Korematsu v. US, but was later ruled to have been unconstitutional in the 80s. The idea of fear driving the establishment to allow the executive officer to attack an unpopular minority is the same, and the name/numbering eerily similar. --62.245.104.23 21:06, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

"Last of the Jedi"

Why does Yoda tell Luke he is the "last of the Jedi" when all these others are in hiding? What is Obi-Wan doing? He cant tell Yoda about the others?

Survivors

In the survivors page, it contains dead victims from order 66. I think someone should change it.

List of survivors

Where did the list of Order 66 Survivors go? It would be very useful if someone put it back. Thanks! Robominer 21:14, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Gotal Jedi ?

In the survivor list, there is a Gotal jedi who has been tortured; but I didn't see him in Into the Unknown. So, where does he appears ?

Known Deaths Section Clarity

This sentence is incomplete and incomprehensible:

"Masters for immediate execution, Knights were to be detained or executed, while Padawans were to be detained for interrogation. "

Could someone more familiar with the subject matter please clean it up? Perhaps it's as simple as adding "were targeted" after the word "masters?"

Thanks.

Similarity To E.O. 9066

-Is it worth mentioning that the possible source of the name Order 66 comes from the U.S. executive order 9066 which sent Japanese-Americans into internment camps?