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One way to explain the whole Grand Admiral bit...

It occured to me today that the origins of Veed being a grand admiral as well as a moff may lie in historical precedent. Think back to the days of Pellaeon during the Yuuzhan Vong War. At that time, Pellaeon, a grand admiral, was separate from the Moff Council, but it is clear that, whatever the legal separation of powers - and there were surely some legal boundaries - he was the dominant figure in, and effectively the leader of, the Council and, therefore, the Imperial government. When the New Republic and, later, the GA conferred with the Empire, they called on Pellaeon, effectively recognizing him as unofficial chief of state of the Imperial Remnant, in addition to supreme commander of the Imperial armed forces.

If we take into account a full century of political evolution, and the restructuring of the Imperial government to accomodate an Emperor with the Moff Council as his advisory board, then it is quite possible that the tradition would have developed that the senior moff on the Council would also by right hold the title of grand admiral, and therefore be overall commander of the Imperial forces (accounting, of course, for the fact that the Emperor, by definition, would hold an even higher authority over the armed forces).

Veed may - or may not - have earned his rank as grand admiral by rising through the military chain of command; there is the possibility that he may hold it simply by virtue of a tradition dating back to the days of Pellaeon. If so, then he was an able enough politician to earn the primacy of place in the Council, and become grand admiral by default; if Pellaeon was a grand admiral as well as the leader of the Council (even unofficially), then by tradition Veed would be the same. Obviously, that wasn't enough for Veed, which is why he entered into a pact with the Sith in the first place... Erik Pflueger 23:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I think Veed was Grand Admiral by default. I believe that, during the Sith-Imperial War, since he was a senior Moff, he became Grand Admiral and therefore commander of the Imperial forces. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 01:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Jack, I don't ask this to hurt your feelings, so please don't take it that way. I'm just not sure, based on how your entry was phrased, if you read my entry before you posted. If you did, then you agree with me. If you didn't, then we both had the same good idea. Either way is fine with me, I just wanted to know which it was. Sorry, old friend, for the confusion. It's been a long day... ;) Erik Pflueger 01:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Here's an idea: he's a moff who was given the rank of grand admiral. Kuralyov 01:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I guess we've all gotten the same idea... :) Erik Pflueger 01:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

But let me possibly prove myself totally wrong here. Legacy #0 contains this blurb about Veed: "Foremost among the Moffs is Morlish Veed. His tactical skills are eclipsed only by his political acumen and his barely concealed abmition toward the Imperial Throne." What qualifies you as a grand admiral, if not unsurpassed tactical skill? So maybe Veed did indeed earn his rank in a legitimate way, rather than just as a political appointment. Some grand admirals have been made so this way, especially Ishin-Il-Raz, but if Veed's got the tactical chops like the blurb says he does, then this may not apply to him. In the end, we're all at the mercy of the comic writers, who've only given us one-and-a-half issues to work from. Erik Pflueger 02:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Swearing Loyalty to Krayt

  • It seems to me that the scene (in issue 1) where he pledges his loyalty that he is being compelled to do by Darth Krayt through the Force. It is drawn by Duursema with her usual glowing sphere to denote Force use, and I was wondering if that's the case whether the article should be changed to reflect that. Vryce 09:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Legacy 8 reveals more to that story. I don't think that Krayt needed to use the Force on any of the Moffs to have them swear loyalty to him. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 15:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
      • But he appears to be doing so in the first issue; my question is whether there's an alternate explanation for his Force use in that scene, other than (pun not intended) forcing Veed to his knees.Vryce 18:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Current rank

  • What rank does Veed currently hold? Is he a High Moff or a Grand Moff? Which is which because there are conflicting sources. He's referred to as a High Moff here, as is Nyna Calixte, but in the Council of Moffs article they are both called Grand Moffs. Which is it, and which is the higher rank? Do Veed and Calixte hold the same rank? Lost Soul 05:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Morlish/Nyna/Morrigan

Ya know, I'm not so sure that Veed didn't actually know about Nyna's/Morrigan's true identity. I think they were just playing with themselves when they mentioned Nyna/Morrigan. I would suggest that we wrote something like that: "It is unknown whether Veed knew that Corde and Calixte were the same persons". --Jaro7788 21:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)