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Although I understand that this image of the Jedi Exile ws chosen because it is the promotional appearance. In the end I think the Jedi exile should be canonized as an androgynous mystery with appearance being blend of all possible faces from the game morph-melded into one, because it really disenfranchises players of the game to see this character that may have looked nothing like the one we might have played, replaced by this guy who likes like the archetypical white male. In fact He almost looks like a fascist. Also all pronouns should be replaced with the terms The Exile,Exile,or the Jedi Exile, this leaves it to remain an open question as to the exact nature of The Exile's gender. This I think keeps the force in balance as it leaves no room for the illusion of racial or gender superiority in human force sensitives. I say this because Much wieght in the game varies soley on the bases of gender. For this variation many actions and dialog differences there are. also the alignment path of the Exile was should be left to question, e.g. was the Exile striving to be a Jedi Consular, a Sith Assasin, or a force insensative altogether. Any story about the Jedi Exile should keep these ambiguities open this is my challenge to contributors of this Wiki. To me this also matters because The Exile is such a pivitol character in the galactic history of force almost as pivitol as Luke Skywalker is although in a much less celebrated role. I think The exile was in a position to initiate a new order of the force much like Luke Skywalker is abled to do in his own time! I say this because at the time the Exile came back to the force the other Jedi were dead or in no position to stop the the Exile's order! The Sith were scattered remnants or were destroyed trying to hunt the Exile. As I was playing I wound up with two apprentices under me (Visas and the Last of the Handmaidens) and I was still learning under Kreia. Admittedly I have yet to defeat the entire game dark, light or "gray" so obviously I don't know how this will turn out perhaps the two will try to kill each other, or even more likely one will abandon me as I commit to one side in an efort to enter the cave on Korriban or whatever, I've learned by constantly saving my game in different threads that it is generally unwise to have some members in your party at moments in the game that will cause you to commit acts that cause a major shift to the dark or light side of the force, as their principles are almost diametricaly opposite. I intend to use my influence upon them to errode thier principles to suit my purposes. perhaps in the end it should be said that this was the exiles ultimate fate, the informal initiation of a obscured or unofficial order of exiled jedi. That answer neither to the Sith or to the Jedi council, but have sank into obscurity or disappeared for their lack of force polarity. It should be during the time of the NEw order that they or their teachings are discovered again or revived..perhaps.
- The only reason we here use masculine references is because it's much simpler. Having to say The Exile repeatedly can make sentances sound awkward. However, we include a disclaimer at the bottom, saying our only reason for using the male is because it's "Obsidian's" Exile (IE, the one they always use), which makes it a very handy reference point, otherwise making a picture or referring to the character is made that much more difficult. --Fade 15:11, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Anyway, is it the Exile? I always assumed it was a Dark Jedi or another minor Jedi character. The only purpose of having a canonical look of Revan and the Exile would be filling the summary, but I'm pretty happy with all characteristics being unknown. - Sikon 13:11, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)
RE:I understand that it could be awkward but that is the challenge nonetheless. I think it will merely challenge authors to be more mindful of their writing..Leaving the character open could cause much potential for authors of the expanded universe, but at the same time it would be the single most controverial and unresolvable inconsistancy of the expanded universe the identity of the Jedi Exile yet still I don't see why it should be any other way..in the end it is Obsidians character (with permission of course from LucasArts to exist in the Star Wars Universe ) and not mine.
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Kavar?
The "Jedi Exile" (canonical name unknown) was a Jedi Padawan, possibly being trained by Jedi Master Kavar <...>
Any source of this? - Sikon 14:11, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- Fanon. --Imp 14:17, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- Not Fanon, it says in-game the Kavar would have took the Exile as a padawan learner. Jasca Ducato 18:15, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Where exactly? - Sikon 17:01, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Usually i play the KotOR games as a Darkside character so i know its not canon, i can't remember if it happens as a Lightsider. But when on Onderon, if you choose to side with Vaklu Kavar attempts to answer your questions and says that, were it not for the demands of the Jedi Council, he would have taken the Exile as an apprentice. Jasca Ducato 18:08, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- 'Would have' taken the Exile as an apprentice? Therefore, the Exile wasn't actually trained by Kavar, since the Council sent him to the Unknown Regions - Kwenn
- But the Exile was intrested in by Kavar to be trained!
- We don't know that, how do we know that they had Bear Clan's back in the Old Republic. For all we know Kavar did train the Exile as a Jedi Initiate but when he rose to the rank of Padawan he decided against having him as a full time student. Jasca Ducato 17:51, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- We don't know that Kavar trained the Exile. Unless you can specify the location of the sound file in the game directory, we have no evidence of him being the Exile's master. On Onderon Kavar says something along the lines of "An old student is returning. They won't know what hit them." I'm not sure if those are his exact words. I'll have to check again, but that is all of the information we're given within the game. Of course, I might have left out some diaglogue options and there might be a line where you learn that Kavar did train the Exile. Nevertheless this sole statement doesn't give us the right to make such an assumption. "An old student" might refer to the Exile's sojourn in the Academy. After all most of the padawans there would fit that description. I don't think it's an educated assumption to make.--86.131.247.176 18:52, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- "We don't know that, how do we know that they had Bear Clan's back in the Old Republic. For all we know Kavar did train the Exile as a Jedi Initiate". The Order may well have had Youngling clans back then, but there's no evidence for it, neither is there any proof to state Kavar trained Revan. The only Master we know he has is Kreia - Kwenn
- My point exactly Kwenn. As for you 86.131. I'm not saying Kavar did train the Exile, all i'm saying is that it is a distinct possibility. Kavar may well have not have taught the Exile but he may well have as well. P.S. Where does Kavar teaching Revan come into the arguement. Jasca Ducato 08:13, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- "We don't know that, how do we know that they had Bear Clan's back in the Old Republic. For all we know Kavar did train the Exile as a Jedi Initiate". The Order may well have had Youngling clans back then, but there's no evidence for it, neither is there any proof to state Kavar trained Revan. The only Master we know he has is Kreia - Kwenn
- We don't know that Kavar trained the Exile. Unless you can specify the location of the sound file in the game directory, we have no evidence of him being the Exile's master. On Onderon Kavar says something along the lines of "An old student is returning. They won't know what hit them." I'm not sure if those are his exact words. I'll have to check again, but that is all of the information we're given within the game. Of course, I might have left out some diaglogue options and there might be a line where you learn that Kavar did train the Exile. Nevertheless this sole statement doesn't give us the right to make such an assumption. "An old student" might refer to the Exile's sojourn in the Academy. After all most of the padawans there would fit that description. I don't think it's an educated assumption to make.--86.131.247.176 18:52, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- We don't know that, how do we know that they had Bear Clan's back in the Old Republic. For all we know Kavar did train the Exile as a Jedi Initiate but when he rose to the rank of Padawan he decided against having him as a full time student. Jasca Ducato 17:51, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- But the Exile was intrested in by Kavar to be trained!
- 'Would have' taken the Exile as an apprentice? Therefore, the Exile wasn't actually trained by Kavar, since the Council sent him to the Unknown Regions - Kwenn
- Usually i play the KotOR games as a Darkside character so i know its not canon, i can't remember if it happens as a Lightsider. But when on Onderon, if you choose to side with Vaklu Kavar attempts to answer your questions and says that, were it not for the demands of the Jedi Council, he would have taken the Exile as an apprentice. Jasca Ducato 18:08, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Where exactly? - Sikon 17:01, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Marin Forak?
Where has this name come from? IF its not canon, i'mm going to remove it! Jasca Ducato 17:56, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Checked, it's not canon, so it's going! Jasca Ducato 17:57, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Picture
Where'd the picture go? Kuralyov 19:02, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Dunno, i couldn't get it back when i reverted the article. Jasca Ducato 19:10, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Infobox
Should the name in the infobox be "Jedi Exile" or "Unknown"? Frankly, I'm quite tired of these edit wars. - Sikon [Talk] 06:25, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Jedi Exile is the only name that we know off, so it should be kept that way until (if at all) a canon name is revealed. Jasca Ducato 19:51, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Since we no longer consider him male, and don't know that much about the Exile, why don't we just ditch the infobox. -- SFH 05:47, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- A good idea, it just encourages fanon posters. - Sikon [Talk] 05:57, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Are we sure about this, wouldn't that just serve to "minimalize" him in some peoples eyes, if i didn't see an infobox i wouldn't consider him a major character in the Galactic History! Jasca Ducato 10:38, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- A good idea, it just encourages fanon posters. - Sikon [Talk] 05:57, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Canonized Characters
I know that when it comes to Star Wars in particular, devoted fans want to have a sense of canonical or historical accuracy. But when it comes to the SW video-games, especially this one, having a canonical character and alignment is totally flawed and takes away from the fun of the game. The whole idea of an RPG like these new ones (eg, fable) is that the situations test how you deal with the other characters in the game. With that said, the character you play with should be as similar to YOU as possible. When you make a character that you identify with, one that shares your strengths and weaknesses, its more realistic because it tests how YOU would handle any given situation. If you're a female, you'll probably want to play as a female character, and likewise with male. When you do character generation, pick your strengths and weaknesses. Are you physically strong, or are you more reliant on skill/ intuition? Do you think you have willpower and discipline, or are you impulsive or impatient? Have fun with the game, is all I'm saying. Put yourself into the character, not somebody else. —Unsigned comment by 206.158.3.71 (talk • contribs)
- Is that a wiki-related question? We simply mention what we're told. We know that KOTOR I has a canonical ending and KOTOR II doesn't, but one is considered, so this is what the wiki says. Blame (or praise) Lucas Licensing. In an RPG, you should have choice, true, but in an RPG that is a part of an official continuity, the player character is not really your character; this character belongs to the maintainers of the said continuity. Therefore, we have one ending that actually happened, and several alternate ones which fans can believe to be true "in their own personal Star Wars universe". Just as they can accept or reject other pieces of Star Wars continuity. - Sikon [Talk] 15:50, 14 Dec 2005 (UTC)
No header, there was
Question. What the heck is all this Uric Dromas stuff? I've never heard of it, I thought that Kotor2 was the first appearance of the Exile. So, what is he doing in EU books, and seriously what's with the bad typing? Is any of this stuff actually even remotely canon?
- Welcome to Wookieepedia. First, please register. Second, please sign your comments, you will be given instructions when you register. Third, what do you mean by "Uric Dromas"? If you mean Ulic Qel-Droma, that character isn't connected to the Exile in any way. - Sikon [Talk] 17:05, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Dark Side Female
If the true ending is Dark sided Female then the Exile will be traind by Darth Revan —Unsigned comment by Dark Lord Revan (talk • contribs)
- It will be a Light Side ending whatever the gender. QuentinGeorge 06:03, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Even better. It was Light side for the first so Revan will still train the Exile —Unsigned comment by Dark Lord Revan (talk • contribs)
- There is no indication whatsoever that Exile was trained by Revan. First of all, (s)he couln't have been trained by Darth Revan, because Revan wasn't yet a Sith by the time of Exile's exilement. Yes, (s)he was a Padawan, and Revan and Malak were Knights by the time of the Mandalorian Wars, but it is unknown if Revan had an apprentice at all. By the way, I'm not so confident that the LS ending will be declared canon, but I think it most probably will be. - Sikon 06:28, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Sikon, we have no way of knowing which ending will be chosen as canon. Personally, i have come to beleive that nobody will always choose the same option when given a choice. So it is possible that the Exile could become a Darksider! Jasca Ducato 08:16, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- I think the Exile is dark because The exile would give in to rage about being the last Jedi Master a Kill kreia in cold blood
- I think Exile's lightside. Sure, the story between the Jedi Masters has more reason to it, but if you look at the fate of the planets, then I think lightside is the way to go. Besides, I'd rather see the Exile fall to the darkside in a sequel where she equips the Nihilus mask, almost similar to Anakin fully becoming Darth Vader with the armor and helmet. - DAWUSS 7:24, 30 Jan 2005
- Edited the Jedi Exile article to make female references, though I still kept the LS ending DAWUSS 00:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Nothing official states the Exile to be female, so I reverted it back. And please don't upload new images over existing ones. - Lord Hydronium 00:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Edited the Jedi Exile article to make female references, though I still kept the LS ending DAWUSS 00:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think Exile's lightside. Sure, the story between the Jedi Masters has more reason to it, but if you look at the fate of the planets, then I think lightside is the way to go. Besides, I'd rather see the Exile fall to the darkside in a sequel where she equips the Nihilus mask, almost similar to Anakin fully becoming Darth Vader with the armor and helmet. - DAWUSS 7:24, 30 Jan 2005
- I think the Exile is dark because The exile would give in to rage about being the last Jedi Master a Kill kreia in cold blood
- I agree with Sikon, we have no way of knowing which ending will be chosen as canon. Personally, i have come to beleive that nobody will always choose the same option when given a choice. So it is possible that the Exile could become a Darksider! Jasca Ducato 08:16, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- There is no indication whatsoever that Exile was trained by Revan. First of all, (s)he couln't have been trained by Darth Revan, because Revan wasn't yet a Sith by the time of Exile's exilement. Yes, (s)he was a Padawan, and Revan and Malak were Knights by the time of the Mandalorian Wars, but it is unknown if Revan had an apprentice at all. By the way, I'm not so confident that the LS ending will be declared canon, but I think it most probably will be. - Sikon 06:28, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Adding Sith to infobox
- Shouldn't Sith be added to the infobox, at least until the character has been canonized? I mean, we have no idea what actually happened, for all we know he/she became the next Dark Lord of the Sith. Jasca Ducato 18:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the light side ending is canonical. --Imp 18:37, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Source? Jasca Ducato 18:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- It isn't canonical, but accepted as a convention here. - Sikon [Talk] 02:01, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Err, so? This is an encyclopedia, wikipedia whatever you want to call it. Unless a canonicity has been stated it should be mentioned that he could have joined the Sith. Only when the Jedi Exile has been confirmed to follow the lightside will i relent. Jasca Ducato 09:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. If Jaden Korr's article can't name a species, this one certainly shouldn't pick an ending. Unless, of course, it actually has been canonized and I'm just unaware of it. CooperTFN 09:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- While it doesn't specifically state it, the NEC strongly implies the light side ending. - Lord Hydronium 09:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Err, it would. I admit its normal for Leland Chee to choose the lightside endings over the darkside (*cry*) but he hasn't yet. Plus, the NEC "strongly implies" he remained on the light. It doesn't say he did. Jasca Ducato 09:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, strong implication is about as much as we'll probably get anytime soon. I say that makes it canon. Or at least canon enough to run with it here. CooperTFN 09:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Strong implication isn't canon. I could make an arguement that strongly implied Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Sith Lord, but it wouldn't make it canon. Jasca Ducato 09:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- You're not a canon source, though. And the NEC calls him a "hero" (referring specifically to his actions in the KOTOR II timeframe), and mentions that he "uncovered the origins of the Sith plot against the Jedi". Neither of those phrases would really be used to refer to someone who destroyed the Jedi as a Sith. - Lord Hydronium 09:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Firstly Hydronium. I'm not saying i'm canon, never have never will. Secondly, like i've said before. Unless the NEC is George Lucas dressed up like a book i don't really care what it says unless canonicity on a subject has been established. Like this one! Jasca Ducato 09:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- For our purposes, that book is as canon as anything that comes out of Lucas. If we're disregarding information in it we might as well throw out 3/4 of the info on this site. CooperTFN 18:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- All i'm asking is that since canon hasn't been established we add Sith (possibly). If canon gets established then i'll agree to a change but since it hasn't. Its not like im asking for us to turn him in Darth Vader is it!?! Jasca Ducato 19:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- If the NEC references events that only happen in the light side ending, then that is canon being established. I don't understand what more you would want to see happen. CooperTFN 04:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- All i'm asking is that since canon hasn't been established we add Sith (possibly). If canon gets established then i'll agree to a change but since it hasn't. Its not like im asking for us to turn him in Darth Vader is it!?! Jasca Ducato 19:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- For our purposes, that book is as canon as anything that comes out of Lucas. If we're disregarding information in it we might as well throw out 3/4 of the info on this site. CooperTFN 18:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Firstly Hydronium. I'm not saying i'm canon, never have never will. Secondly, like i've said before. Unless the NEC is George Lucas dressed up like a book i don't really care what it says unless canonicity on a subject has been established. Like this one! Jasca Ducato 09:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- You're not a canon source, though. And the NEC calls him a "hero" (referring specifically to his actions in the KOTOR II timeframe), and mentions that he "uncovered the origins of the Sith plot against the Jedi". Neither of those phrases would really be used to refer to someone who destroyed the Jedi as a Sith. - Lord Hydronium 09:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Strong implication isn't canon. I could make an arguement that strongly implied Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Sith Lord, but it wouldn't make it canon. Jasca Ducato 09:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, strong implication is about as much as we'll probably get anytime soon. I say that makes it canon. Or at least canon enough to run with it here. CooperTFN 09:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Err, it would. I admit its normal for Leland Chee to choose the lightside endings over the darkside (*cry*) but he hasn't yet. Plus, the NEC "strongly implies" he remained on the light. It doesn't say he did. Jasca Ducato 09:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- While it doesn't specifically state it, the NEC strongly implies the light side ending. - Lord Hydronium 09:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. If Jaden Korr's article can't name a species, this one certainly shouldn't pick an ending. Unless, of course, it actually has been canonized and I'm just unaware of it. CooperTFN 09:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- Even if you played a dark side Exile, does that really mean he would have to turn Sith at the end? Kuralyov 04:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- For crien out loud CooperTFN i just bloody told you what i want! All i want is the addition of Sith (possibly) to the affiliations box. It may well be the in the future canon says he never joined the Sith, but until then!
And to answer your question Kuralyov, yes. He would have, Kreia says this when you play darkside ending. Jasca Ducato 08:50, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- I meant that I don't understand what you would consider proof of one ending being canon, because the NEC is as canon as anything else out there. CooperTFN 01:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- I would consider Leland Chee or George Lucas being canon. IF the NEC specifically said he remained on the light then fine, but it doesn't. Jasca Ducato 09:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't state that Revan remained light either, but it references events that would only happen if that were so, and that's now the canon ending. The same applies here. CooperTFN 18:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. But Leland Chee, head of Canonicity at Lucasart does. SO that is why i don't argue about Revan being a lightsider. But he hasn't declared the Jedi Exile a lightsider yet. Jasca Ducato 18:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- The NEC is not less canon than Leland Chee. In fact, it's moreso, because Leland isn't an official document. Sometimes he suggests things that don't end up being the case. CooperTFN 18:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- Tell me where it specifically says "The Jedi Exile stayed with the lightside of the Force"? IF it says that then i will relent, if it doesn't confirm his alignment then i'm changing it back. Jasca Ducato 15:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- The NEC is not less canon than Leland Chee. In fact, it's moreso, because Leland isn't an official document. Sometimes he suggests things that don't end up being the case. CooperTFN 18:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- I would consider Leland Chee or George Lucas being canon. IF the NEC specifically said he remained on the light then fine, but it doesn't. Jasca Ducato 09:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, I can admit when I'm wrong. Leland Chee posted not two days ago:
While an Exile gender determination is imminent, there hasn't yet been a call to determine which ending is to be considered canon.
While I think the NEC pretty broadly hints at the light side ending, looks like they don't know after all. - Lord Hydronium 05:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'll be damned. Adding Sith back to the infobox. CooperTFN 07:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Appearance
If this is the official appearance of the Exile, can I ask if it is also availiable in the game? When I started to play, I looked for this one (to be as canonical as possible :)), but couldn't find it. MoffRebus 16:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- He's there. On the Portrait selection, press Left until you see a guy with an Obi-Wan-class beard and hairstyle. Left again, and you see a guy who looks like Canderous. Press Left twice and there's our Exile - Kwenn 16:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Uric(?)
Purpose of Second Quote
Is it really that necessary? It looks much better with only the first quote by Kreia.--LandoSystem1138 03:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
If a canon is established...
I think they should go with a female, since Revan is canonically considered male. As for a name, perhaps they should go with Lann Darth, since it's noted that there's an Easter egg when that name is used.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what the Easter egg is? I've been trying to acquire the name Lann Darth just to see what it is.
I'm clueless...
What is this, a secret Jedi Exile blanking cabal? Portions of the BTS section (those taking about gender ambiguity) have been removed thrice - by three different anons. - Sikon [Talk] 15:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, i've noticed that too. It's totally pointless because it doesn't even say that he/she has been given a definitve gender. Oh, and the name for these Anons is morons. Jasca Ducato 18:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
DS picture
Can we get the promotional picture of the DS male Exile? It looks just like the one in the article, but the opposite. I think that would fairly portray the two possibilites offered by the game. Varas Halcyon 12:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
nickname tag
Does anyone think this artical quaifies for a "{{nickname}}" tag? His name was not "Jedi Exile" however he is called that IU LTIC so it doesn't quaifis for a "{{conjecture}} " tag.
- For all we know his name might have been "Jedi Jospeh Exile" or some strange name like that. We could, but i don't really mind either way. Jasca Ducato 18:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Jedi Exile was NOT called "Jedi Exile" IU. - Sikon [Talk] 18:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Erm, seeing as thats what Darth Sion calls him, he is called it IU. Jasca Ducato 19:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- So add the tag?
- In-game characters speaking English call him Exile, but I am not sure about Jedi followed by Exile. As in the first game, only aliens call him with the custom name. I vote for the tag anyway MoffRebus 01:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't get why this article is called 'Jedi Exile'. That name may be more self-explanatory, but in the game the character is almost exclusively called just the "Exile". (see Wookieepedia:Naming conventions)--Sentry 01:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- To repeat: in-game, he is just called "the exile". Without capitalization. - Sikon [Talk] 02:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- And capitalization is relevant why? In any case, the title of the article has be capitalized because the word exile would, in this context, be used as a proper noun.--Sentry 03:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- To repeat: in-game, he is just called "the exile". Without capitalization. - Sikon [Talk] 02:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't get why this article is called 'Jedi Exile'. That name may be more self-explanatory, but in the game the character is almost exclusively called just the "Exile". (see Wookieepedia:Naming conventions)--Sentry 01:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Erm, seeing as thats what Darth Sion calls him, he is called it IU. Jasca Ducato 19:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Jedi Exile was NOT called "Jedi Exile" IU. - Sikon [Talk] 18:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Why not rename the article "The General." Sure there were lots of Jedi Generals, but given in context, it would be easily recognized. You would also be able to remove the nickname tag. My suggestion to Mr. Che is that The General be made official canon. Revan was easier to do, as the name the player chose was chalked up to a reprogrammed identity. The Exile doesn't have amnesia, so you can't blame the player chosen name on that.--PhilCarr 15:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Nah. It's always been the Exile. Thats the way he is always referred to. General is only by Bao-Dur. Exile is by Atton, Kreia, Vrook, Zez, Grenn. That's the way he is mostly known as. The Exile. Plus, calling someone Exile just sounds cooler. "This is your gift to the galaxy, Exile..." --Redemption 23:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
--BHRamsay 18:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)== Exile confirmed as female ==
Exile confirmed as female
I just picked up the New Essential Guide to Droids, and in it, a number of references are made to the Jedi Exile (such as in the entries for the T3 series and HK series). In all of them, the --BHRamsay 18:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Exile is referred to as female. This seems as good of a confirmation as any that the Exile is canonically female. Also, it consistently refers to her as a "heroine" - seemingly implying that the light side ending is canon, though that's not definite. - 15:30 CDT, 28 June 2006
- About to make some edits to clear this problem up. - Breathesgelatin 00:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Three NEGD quotes (emphasis mine):
"Five standard years later, T3-M4 reappeared aboard the abandoned freighter Ebon Hawk, where he fell into the company of the heroine known only as the Jedi Exile."
"HK-47 teamed up with the heroine known as the Jedi Exile to battle a trio of Sith Lords."
"G0-T0 soon became mixed up with an exiled Jedi Knight and her mission to destroy the Sith Lords."
I'm not really interested in that era, and I've never played the games. But that looks pretty much like a deliberate editorial decision to me. -- Darth Culator 00:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Full clearance to change all "he"s to "she"s? And get Disciples bio filled out? --Redemption 01:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is great, now maybe some of the fans who were mad that Revan wasn't awoman will drop it now, I approve of the Exile being a female, even myself being a guy. User:RushinSundaws 9:14 27, June 2006
- Actually, I have no intention of dropping it. Exile could have gone either way for me but I couldn't stand the Male Revan story. Revan/Bastila reminded me of the horrors of the AOTC romance. --Redemption 02:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Frankly, I'm not happy, because it looks like that's the only thing they thought of, not how it contributes to the story. The Handmaiden has gone from a woman who learned of her Jedi heritage, broke her oath, forsook her master and sisters for the Exile, and later was forced to fight them to...just some woman. Atris isn't the woman who battled feelings for the Exile only to feel betrayed when he left, she's just got some sort of grudge. I have nothing against female heroes, and agree we need more, I just don't think this was the best choice for one. Ah well, what's done is done. - Lord Hydronium 02:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- YAY!!!!! For now, use Template:Exile. Also, it's good to see that they adopted "Jedi Exile", which was originally a fan nickname - hailing from IMDB, if I'm not mistaken. - Sikon [Talk] 05:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, there's a plus side to this. That's a damn funny template. - Lord Hydronium 06:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I would favour a female Exile just because it removes the slightly surreal concept that every single person in the galaxy either falls to the dark side or is redeemed to the light because they fall in love with The Exile. - BHRamsay 18:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- YAY!!!!! For now, use Template:Exile. Also, it's good to see that they adopted "Jedi Exile", which was originally a fan nickname - hailing from IMDB, if I'm not mistaken. - Sikon [Talk] 05:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Now if they would only have a story where a character actually does fall to the Dark side and stay there. It happens, you know, like with Palpatine or Maul. The galaxy goes on. :-) -BaronGrackle 22:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is great, now maybe some of the fans who were mad that Revan wasn't awoman will drop it now, I approve of the Exile being a female, even myself being a guy. User:RushinSundaws 9:14 27, June 2006
- Full clearance to change all "he"s to "she"s? And get Disciples bio filled out? --Redemption 01:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)